World Cup: 2024 World Cup - rosters

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Huh?

Imagine leaving a 40g 115p winger off of a team like this.

Gaudreau - Matthews - M Tkachuk
B Tkachuk - Hughes - Kane
Guentzel - Eichel - Debrincat
Copp - Larkin - Miller
Connor, Robertson
Could say the same thing about you having Connor and Robertson on the bench in favor of less productive players like Copp.

They aren’t going to want half their roster to be skilled smaller guys. DeBrincat, Hughes, Gaudreau, Kane, Zegras - they probably only take 2 or 3 of them.

There are some very capable players like Beniers, Boldy, J.Norris, Tuch, Caufield, Keller who are going to want a spot as well. A lot can change between now and then and this isn’t your father’s Team USA where there are only a handful of true Top 6 players
 
Could say the same thing about you having Connor and Robertson on the bench in favor of less productive players like Copp.

They aren’t going to want half their roster to be skilled smaller guys. DeBrincat, Hughes, Gaudreau, Kane, Zegras - they probably only take 2 or 3 of them.

There are some very capable players like Beniers, Boldy, J.Norris, Tuch, Caufield, Keller who are going to want a spot as well. A lot can change between now and then and this isn’t your father’s Team USA where there are only a handful of true Top 6 players
It's one thing to favor less productive role players over more productive players. It's a completely different thing to favor them over your most productive player, who also makes everyone around them way better and is a very good all around winger.
 
Old Canada Cups had 2-4 good teams and a ton of players from European leagues, generally of lower standard than the IIHF World Championships nowadays.
 
The Olympics took place also in Russia just days before the invasion in 2014 with no one boycotting the games. Not even diplomatic unlike in the case of China.
 
Best goalie trio IMO

Much improved D from previous tourneys

Weak C depth... Not 100 💯 kuzy could play (or the rest of the team)

Needs Michkov! I think he will hit the scene like Laine did!
With these centers and Sergachev on the first pairing,
they are not on the podium with this lineup
 
Early picks for USA

Gaudreau - Matthews - Kane
M. Tkachuk - Eichel - Debrincat
Guentzel - Hughes - J. Miller
Connor - Beniers - Robertson
Boldy - Zegras

K. Miller - Fox
Slavin - McAvoy
Hughes - Jones
Werenski - Carlson

Hellebuyck
Demko
Oettinger
 
Patrik Laine - Aleksander Barkov - Mikko Rantanen
Roope Hintz - Sebastian Aho - Teuvo Teräväinen
Brad Lambert - Anton Lundell - Kaapo Kakko
Artturi Lehkonen - Mikael Granlund - Joel Armia
Aatu Räty
Jesse Puljujärvi

Esa Lindell - Miro Heiskanen
Olli Määttä - Rasmus Ristolainen
Urho Vaakanainen - Henri Jokiharju
Niko Mikkola - Jani Hakanpää

Juuse Saros
Antti Raanta
Ville Husso


Close: Eetu Luostarinen, Erik Haula, Matias Maccelli, Saku Mäenalanen, Eeli Tolvanen, Juuso Pärssinen, Jesse Ylönen, Rasmus Kupari, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Kaapo Kähkönen, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, Juuso Välimäki, Lassi Thomson, Markus Niemeläinen, Ville Heinola, Robin Salo, Santeri Hatakka
 
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Patrik Laine - Aleksander Barkov - Mikko Rantanen
Roope Hintz - Sebastian Aho - Teuvo Teräväinen
Brad Lambert - Anton Lundell - Kaapo Kakko
Artturi Lehkonen - Mikael Granlund - Joel Armia
Aatu Räty
Jesse Puljujärvi

Esa Lindell - Miro Heiskanen
Olli Määttä - Rasmus Ristolainen
Urho Vaakanainen - Henri Jokiharju
Niko Mikkola - Jani Hakanpää

Juuse Saros
Antti Raanta
Ville Husso


Close: Eetu Luostarinen, Erik Haula, Matias Maccelli, Eeli Tolvanen, Juuso Pärssinen, Jesse Ylönen, Rasmus Kupari, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Kaapo Kähkönen, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, Juuso Välimäki, Lassi Thomson, Markus Niemeläinen, Ville Heinola, Robin Salo, Santeri Hatakka

I like that roster very much but to be honest this is more like an olympic roster for 2026 games minus Antti Raanta. Too many young guys.
 
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Patrik Laine - Aleksander Barkov - Mikko Rantanen
Roope Hintz - Sebastian Aho - Teuvo Teräväinen
Brad Lambert - Anton Lundell - Kaapo Kakko
Artturi Lehkonen - Mikael Granlund - Joel Armia
Aatu Räty
Jesse Puljujärvi

Esa Lindell - Miro Heiskanen
Olli Määttä - Rasmus Ristolainen
Urho Vaakanainen - Henri Jokiharju
Niko Mikkola - Jani Hakanpää

Juuse Saros
Antti Raanta
Ville Husso


Close: Eetu Luostarinen, Erik Haula, Matias Maccelli, Eeli Tolvanen, Juuso Pärssinen, Jesse Ylönen, Rasmus Kupari, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Kaapo Kähkönen, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, Juuso Välimäki, Lassi Thomson, Markus Niemeläinen, Ville Heinola, Robin Salo, Santeri Hatakka
I'm also an Oiler fan and our fanbase is very torn on JP. Some have him as must be Top 6 because of his analytics. Some have him bottom 6 because he never finishes and seems to lack hockey iq. So half the fanbase wants him on top line and signed for 8 years and half want him traded for a bag of pucks. Very polarizing.

Anyways, I always like to see where the Finn's have him in a best on best.
 
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I'm also an Oiler fan and our fanbase is very torn on JP. Some have him as must be Top 6 because of his analytics. Some have him bottom 6 because he never finishes and seems to lack hockey iq. So half the fanbase wants him on top line and signed for 8 years and half want him traded for a bag of pucks. Very polarizing.

Anyways, I always like to see where the Finn's have him in a best on best.
They have him where they should have him, in the press box. Maybe you take a flyer on him with Aho and Laine based on past performance together and hope you can rekindle that magic but if you aren't thinking along those lines they likely have better options to start.

With that out of the way the U.S looks awesome, boy will they be difficult to beat.
 
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Huh?

Imagine leaving a 40g 115p winger off of a team like this.

Gaudreau - Matthews - M Tkachuk
B Tkachuk - Hughes - Kane
Guentzel - Eichel - Debrincat
Copp - Larkin - Miller
Connor, Robertson
Am I to understand that you believe B Tkachuk is better than Robertson?

I hope this isn't a "they need a big body on that line" kind of argument.
 
I´´ll take my shot at Team Germany, Team Switzerland, Team Slovakia, Team Latvia and Team Denmark rosters;

Germany:

Stützle - Draisaitl - Kahun
Reichel - Sturm - Peterka
Rieder - Michaelis - Pföderl
Tiffels - Hager - Bergmann
Fiscbuch, Plachta

M.Müller - Seider
J.Müller - Holzer
Gawange - Wagner
Brandt - Bittner

Grubauer - Niederberger - Strahlmeier

Switzerland:

Meier - Hischier - Fiala
Niederreter - Suter - Malgin
Hofmann - Kurashev - Andrighetto
Scherwey - Haas - Riat
Corvi, Thürkauf

Moser - Josi
Kukan - Siegenthaler
Müller - Weber
Berni - Gross

Genoni - Nyffeler - Schmid


Slovakia:


Slafkovsky - Hirivik - Cehlarik
Tatar - Ruzicka - Mesar
Takac - Kristof - Regenda
K.Pospisil - M.Pospisil - Jurco
Sykora, Dvorsky

Feherfary - Cernak
Ceresnak - Marincin
Gernat - Jaros
Rosandic - Cajkovsky

Huska - Rybar - Latkoczy


Latvia:

Girgensons - Bluegers - Balcers
Krastenbergs - Abols - Indrasis
Ri.Bukarts - Smirnovs - R.Bukarts
Tralmaks - Batna - Egle
Svanenbergs, Zabusovs

Rubins - Balinskis
Zile - Jaks
Cibulskis - Freibergs
Ozols - Mamcics

Merzlikins - Silovs - Grigals


Denmark:

Ehlers - Eller - Björkstrand
Boedker - Regin - N.Jensen
Meyer - True - Blichfeld
Storm - Jakobsen - Russell
Olesen, Aagaard,

O.Lauridsen - Jensen Aabo
M.Lauridsen - Lassen
P.Larsen - O.Larsen
NB.Jensen - Kristensen

Andersen - Dahm - Dichow
 
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I´´ll take my shot at Team Germany and Team Switzerkand rosters;

Stützle - Draisaitl - Kahun
Reichel - Sturm - Peterka
Rieder - Michaelis - Pföderl
Tiffels - Hager - Bergmann
Fiscbuch, Plachta

M.Müller - Seider
J.Müller - Holzer
Gawange - Wagner
Brandt - Bittner

Grubauer - Niederberger - Strahlmeier


Meier - Hischier - Fiala
Niederreter - Suter - Malgin
Hofmann - Kurashev - Andrighetto
Scherwey - Haas - Riat
Corvi, Thürkauf

Moser - Josi
Kukan - Siegenthaler
Müller - Weber
Berni - Gross

Genoni - Nyffeler - Schmid



Oh well I can add Slovaks as well:


Slafkovsky - Hirivik - Cehlarik
Tatar - Ruzicka - Mesar
Takac - Kristof - Regenda
K.Pospisil - M.Pospisil - Jurco
Sykora, Dvorsky

Feherfary - Cernak
Ceresnak - Marincin
Gernat - Jaros
Rosandic - Cajkovsky

Huska - Rybar - Latkoczy


Just one more:

Latvia (if they qualify)

Girgensons - Bluegers - Balcers
Krastenbergs - Abols - Indrasis
Ri.Bukarts - Smirnovs - R.Bukarts
Tralmaks - Batna - Egle
Svanenbergs, Zabusovs

Rubins - Balinskis
Zile - Jaks
Cibulskis - Freibergs
Ozols - Mamcics

Merzlikins - Silovs - Grigals


Oh I forgot Denmark totally so here she goes:


Ehlers - Eller - Björkstrand
Boedker - Regin - N.Jensen
Meyer - True - Blichfeld
Storm - Jakobsen - Russell
Olesen, Aagaard,

O.Lauridsen - Jensen Aabo
M.Lauridsen - Lassen
P.Larsen - O.Larsen
NB.Jensen - Kristensen

Andersen - Dahm - Dichow
Nice work...

Germany has a decent forwards corps, a weak D (outside of Seider of course) and hopefully Grubauer is still in good form a year from now!

Swiss have good forwards, stronger D and no NHL goalie in the pipe.

Slovakia... I feel like 2028 is their year as the new generation will still be young.... they also need an NHL goalie to emerge somewhere.

Danes haven't had a player drafted in 3 years but the current crop looks good and they are always well coached.

Latvia doesn't look too great to me but I guarantee they'd be competitive as they sometimes play greater than the sum of their parts! NHL goalie which is good too.

I'd actually love to see these 5 in a round robin style tourney to say who'd come out

2024 I say Swiss-Germany-Denmark-Slovakia-Latvia

2028 I think it'd be Slovakia - Swiss - Germay - Denmark/Slovakia

All 5 nations have only had 25 players drafted combined in the last 3 years and only 1 goalie. Feels like Danes and Swiss are in a 'lull' while Slovakia is surging and Germany seems to be maintaining.
 
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Team Sweden ONE

Rickard Rakell - Mika Zibanejad - Jesper Bratt
Filip Forsberg - Elias Lindholm - Elias Pettersson
Gabriel Landeskog - Nicklas Bäckström - William Nylander
Adrian Kempe - Joel Eriksson Ek - Lucas Raymond

Hampus Lindholm - Erik Karlsson
Victor Hedman - Rasmus Andersson
Rasmus Dahlin - Mattias Ekholm

Jacob Markström
Linus Ullmark
Anton Forsberg


Team Sweden TWO

André Burakovsky - Alexander Wennberg - Viktor Arvidsson
Victor Olofsson - William Karlsson - Jakob Silfverberg
Gustav Nyquist - Mikael Backlund - Alexander Holtz
Carl Hagelin - Calle Järnkrok - Oskar Sundqvist

Oliver Ekman Larsson - Adam Larsson
Jonas Brodin - John Klingberg
Gustav Forsling - Marcus Pettersson

Robin Lehner
Filip Gustavsson
Magnus Hellberg
 
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As long Poile and Burke aren't involved they can't. BB lobbying to keep Bobby Ryan off Team USA was an awful decision.
There was obviously a mindset revolving around expecting to being involved in and thinking there needed to be an ability to "win in the trenches" in a rough North American game style of which they thought was going to happen. Very much an old dinosaur approach considering how the game has now evolved with which the talent they had on hand was neither needed nor effective.

I'm confident this time they won't mess up like that, the U.S is overflowing with high end talent at all positions and whoever is running the show this time around will undoubtedly know this is how the next tournament will be won by whoever wins it.

The U.S has a fantastic chance to walk away with the title the next go around.
 
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If Russia is allowed to participate, I will not watch a single game. That will also be the end of any remaining interest in hockey as a sport. Absolutely disgusting that NHL has been flaunting the possibility of Russia participating, given what they are doing in the world currently.

Sure, let them in and see the Finns, Swedes, Czech, and the rest of EU skip the "World Cup" of Hockey. But hey, people get to worship the one-trick pony/PutinTeam-disciple Great 8 eh....
Exactly.
 
Thats actually not true at all. Football is a waaaaay bigger sport than ice hockey, and teams and their owners are happy to showcase their players on the international stage since it raises their players value, their teams brand awareness and so on. The thing with American sports leagues is that it seems like "content is king", meaning as many games as possible to get as much revenue as possible. I mean, 82 game season + playoffs? Really? Football leagues don't need to do that, hence there's way more international windows in their calendars.
In terms of global interest ice hockey is battling the likes of bandy, floorball and other niche team sports. One can say that ice hockey is played at a high level in maybe ten countries or so. Compare that with volleyball or basketball, let alone football...
 

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