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Drivesaitl

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Went out for a long walk today and tbh it felt warmer on weekend. When sun was out it was nice but soon as it got cloudy it chilled down. Bit more of a breeze today. Anyway some magpies were trying to chirp me off as Magpies usually do when they don't like you walking around. Except the Magpie had laryngitis. It couldn't make the noise it usually does. No squawking, no chirping. it was half assing it its so cold. Never seen Magpies that couldn't make loud noise before. Poor things. They looked OK. Fat actually. Somebody feeding them.

Anybody elses doors sticking? Gotta break through the ice to get in. Front and back. Just to break ice seal.

Nice that the city has distributed table spoons of sand on the roads. I guess sand isn't in the budget. Not using any salt either so the very sparse amount of sand just blows away. You could curl rocks on any of the city streets for the last week. City doing nothing about it. But the bike lanes are clear. They actually graded those to asphalt.

This just in. I don't see ANYBODY cycling the last week yet this is the city priority. Not even pedestrian crossings are sanded. Drivers and pedestrians can pound sand, pun intended.
 
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Yep, like I said above if you do the conversion those are plenty frigid. For instance just -15Fahrenheit is -26C. Again those numbers posted without windchill. It was cold the entire month. It was a furnace killer month for sure. Might be the longest contiguous cold snap of long duration Edmonton ever had. Busses breaking down, planes couldn't fly etc. I think it was that winter that resulted in the schools being closed once in awhile when it got severely cold. That -39 posted on the chart there was probably a 50C with windchill. Maybe worse. I recall it being very windy as well.

lol we were still playing road hockey. moms would all want to overdress us. I hated that. "I'm not playing road hockey in that get up" Cripes, we were just outside on the street. You don't EVER get cold playing road hockey.
The problem was sweating and snot flying...
I don’t remember this myself as I was less than a month old at the time but I do remember my older relatives talking about that winter a lot when I was a child.
 
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I don’t remember this myself as I was less than a month old at the time but I do remember my older relatives talking about that winter a lot when I was a child.
I was already walking uphill both ways to school in 69. Hardly anybody in JP used to shovel sidewalks at the time and so you were often wading through what seemed like 3 feet of snow. We used to get a lot of snow, and a lot of snowdrifting back then. You'd be sinking in snow. Sometimes stuck.. Doesn't happen as often these winters. Drifts are the worst. The snow is hard. You step in it and hard getting your leg and boot out. Was a lesson to tie up the winter boots. Remember those winter boots with the felt liners? Would rather wear snowshoes.
 
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EV charging ports not even working in double digit minus temps in US lolol





Would NEVER buy an EV.

At least these EV's aren't combusting. I guess thats positive.

I feel sorry for these people. But seriously how did you think this wasn't going to be a problem with an EV? I mean these are just the experiences I would expect.



Gas stations are everywhere. You don't have to look for one to find one when you're running low. Good luck with EV's.

"Several cars had to be towed as the batteries died while waiting in line to charge up" lmfao

Heres a story that the press seem never to cover. That the EV "range" doesn't factor in traffic jams and with increased adoption of EV's how many of our roads become parking lots because thousands of EV's have run out of power right on the highway, right on the freeway. Happens all over, but not in the news. A common scene is EV's being towed home or to a charging station. Especially in real cold weather snaps. So again what happens when we have all these EV's on the road, we have a cold snap, and we have warnings of overtaxed grid and brownouts. People just stay home? don't go to work? EV busses don't run?

A lot of things with EV's namely that they are not viable here, need to be considered.
 
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This is the typical media misinformation put out by news sources lying about everything about EV cars.


Vancouver Sun basically saying that the EV cars don't drain hardly at all while stuck in traffic jams. Oh, except everything that the user might be using during the traffic jam including lights, radio, heat etc is drawing electricity. Combine that cold and windchill are also taxing that battery.

Always fun to read the comments to an article that is purposely false.

"Yeah, how would that hold up in Peace River -45C" Indeed.

You have to question news articles and news sources when the comments contain more truth.

Heres the fun game. See if you can spot the EV car salesman in the comments section of the Vancouver Sun article.
 
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This is the typical media misinformation put out by news sources lying about everything about EV cars.


Vancouver Sun basically saying that the EV cars don't drain hardly at all while stuck in traffic jams. Oh, except everything that the user might be using during the traffic jam including lights, radio, heat etc is drawing electricity. Combine that cold and windchill are also taxing that battery.

Always fun to read the comments to an article that is purposely false.

"Yeah, how would that hold up in Peace River -45C" Indeed.

You have to question news articles and news sources when the comments contain more truth.

Media has long been bought for buy Davos elites. The same elites that want us to move to electric cars while they get to fly private jets to their annual reach-around meetings to tell us how to not pollute.
 

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I was already walking uphill both ways to school in 69. Hardly anybody in JP used to shovel sidewalks at the time and so you were often wading through what seemed like 3 feet of snow. We used to get a lot of snow, and a lot of snowdrifting back then. You'd be sinking in snow. Sometimes stuck.. Doesn't happen as often these winters. Drifts are the worst. The snow is hard. You step in it and hard getting your leg and boot out. Was a lesson to tie up the winter boots. Remember those winter boots with the felt liners? Would rather wear snowshoes.
I think a lot of our stories and those before us with the 8 foot drifts, etc, were partly because we were small kids back then, and snow up to your chest was actually shin high for adults. And those long walks to school seemed like miles for little legs.
 
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I think a lot of our stories and those before us with the 8 foot drifts, etc, were partly because we were small kids back then, and snow up to your chest was actually shin high for adults. And those long walks to school seemed like miles for little legs.
For sure. Plus those stupid winter boots they had back then would feel like they were 10lbs each. Didn't mind them for road hockey if I was playing net or D, but they sucked for forwards...running in those infernal things was always interesting..

haha. All my old schools seemed a lot bigger when I was small. I remember cycling by JP composite High SChool whwn I WAS A KID and it looked GIGANTIC. Centennial Mall and Meadowlark seemed big. Westmount seemed endless. If we had WEM when I was a kid I'd figure it was a whole city..
 
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For sure. Plus those stupid winter boots they had back then would feel like they were 10lbs each. Didn't mind them for road hockey if I was playing net or D, but they sucked for forwards...running in those infernal things was always interesting..

haha. All my old schools seemed a lot bigger when I was small. I remember cycling by JP composite High SChool whwn I WAS A KID and it looked GIGANTIC. Centennial Mall and Meadowlark seemed big. Westmount seemed endless. If we had WEM when I was a kid I'd figure it was a whole city..
Centennial Mall that’s a name I haven’t heard forever lol
 
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So really didn't pay attention, but did not realize today was suppose to be like one of the coldest mornings this week lol.
 

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What are you guys complaining about?

It was so hot and humid out today I was sweating in places you should not sweat.
 

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f***, I just about froze yesterday. The Mexican waiter accidentally dropped a couple ice cubes on my back from a spilled drink.
 
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This is the typical media misinformation put out by news sources lying about everything about EV cars.
Media has long been bought for buy Davos elites. The same elites that want us to move to electric cars while they get to fly private jets to their annual reach-around meetings to tell us how to not pollute.

Just as an FYI the people that own the Vancouver Sun is Post Media who employ at least a half dozen columnists that vociferously defend Canada's/Alberta's Oil and Gas developments. Post Media owns almost 75% of all newspapers in the Western Provinces and every election runs editorials and election recommendations recommending Conservative governments. This idea that they are the "Davos elites" is true, insofar that the Davos elites mostly just care about making more money (see any of their responses to taxing high wealth individuals more) and exerting control and less so about ensuring we actually reduce emissions.

It's why, as much as you might get a newspaper column suggesting that an idle EV won't consume as much energy sitting in traffic as a gasoline one will, you definitely do get a ton of articles detailing the range reductions that EV vehicles can have that rarely mention the range reduction impacts cold weather has on all vehicles.

Cold weather sucks serious ass for cars. City planning that wasn't as centered around the need for cars would probably help us save on our energy costs - though we also have to rethink the love affair we have with increasingly large vehicles as status symbols that also greatly increase our energy costs due to poor relative fuel economy for the needs of the drivers.

(Fuel Economy is almost always one of the first markers I care about with a vehicle, even when I was a Capital C Conservative, because it is a way to greatly reduce costs)

I think a lot of our stories and those before us with the 8 foot drifts, etc, were partly because we were small kids back then, and snow up to your chest was actually shin high for adults. And those long walks to school seemed like miles for little legs.

It is funny how not long my walk to school was in Lymburn for K-2... but it sure felt like it!
 

Drivesaitl

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Just as an FYI the people that own the Vancouver Sun is Post Media who employ at least a half dozen columnists that vociferously defend Canada's/Alberta's Oil and Gas developments. Post Media owns almost 75% of all newspapers in the Western Provinces and every election runs editorials and election recommendations recommending Conservative governments. This idea that they are the "Davos elites" is true, insofar that the Davos elites mostly just care about making more money (see any of their responses to taxing high wealth individuals more) and exerting control and less so about ensuring we actually reduce emissions.

It's why, as much as you might get a newspaper column suggesting that an idle EV won't consume as much energy sitting in traffic as a gasoline one will, you definitely do get a ton of articles detailing the range reductions that EV vehicles can have that rarely mention the range reduction impacts cold weather has on all vehicles.

Cold weather sucks serious ass for cars. City planning that wasn't as centered around the need for cars would probably help us save on our energy costs - though we also have to rethink the love affair we have with increasingly large vehicles as status symbols that also greatly increase our energy costs due to poor relative fuel economy for the needs of the drivers.

(Fuel Economy is almost always one of the first markers I care about with a vehicle, even when I was a Capital C Conservative, because it is a way to greatly reduce costs)



It is funny how not long my walk to school was in Lymburn for K-2... but it sure felt like it!
Misinformation from media is one of my specific concerns. No matter the stripes. Some research, in defense of EV cars and with vested interest put out a study on how long EV cars can maintain charge while STATIONARY. Soon other such findings and all reported on EV battery performance on vehicles standing still. Thsi was falsely reported to mean such vehicles would do better in traffic jams. Without one mention that any real world traffic jam is stop and go. EV Vehicles are typically heavier and it takes power to get them going from a standing stop, only to have to stop again. Nobody did that actual study simulating what an actual traffic jam is. They just parked the vehicles while on and tried to infer that was a real world performing gauge.

Stuff like this, its why I always say information has to be analyzed, not blanket accepted. You have to actively question information even if serially reported.
 

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