Blue Jays GDT: 2024 v6 | Fri, Sept 13 | vs StL | 7pm ET/4pm PT | TBA vs TBA Ohtanis Makes History

[canucksfan]

Does Lukes make the team next year? He’s been the best hitter for weeks now

If he makes it, it would be as 4th outfielder and I don't think he adds too much value there for the team. He's not overly fast and his defense in CF is below average.

 

[aingefan]

Does Lukes make the team next year? He’s been the best hitter for weeks now

pretty good chance that he’s an extra outfielder, yeah.
Can spot all the positions, have good at bats. He could be the guy that spells Springer in right.
How much burn he gets will likely depend on how much the Jays add to the offence and where, and what the plans are for the ‘younger than Lukes’ kids.
I presume they add one big bat, position tbd. And I’m sure they hope one of Loperfido/Barger grab a spot and run with it.

 

[Suntouchable13]

pretty good chance that he’s an extra outfielder, yeah.
Can spot all the positions, have good at bats. He could be the guy that spells Springer in right.
How much burn he gets will likely depend on how much the Jays add to the offence and where, and what the plans are for the ‘younger than Lukes’ kids.
I presume they add one big bat, position tbd. And I’m sure they hope one of Loperfido/Barger grab a spot and run with it.

You mean Soto, right?

 

[MK78]

I presume they add one big bat, position tbd.

I don't know if I trust this front office to do that.

Last two years the "big bats" were 35 year old Brandon Belt and a 40 year old Justin Turner.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don't know if I trust this front office to do that.

Last two years the "big bats" were 35 year old Brandon Belt and a 40 year old Justin Turner.

To be fair, there's more out there this winter. You have Soto, you have Santander, you have O'Neill, and more guys i am forgeting.

 

[MK78]

To be fair, there's more out there this winter. You have Soto, you have Santander, you have O'Neill, and more guys i am forgeting.

Yeah, but there were trades to be made if they had good prospects, Soto being a prime example.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Yeah, but there were trades to be made if they had good prospects, Soto being a prime example.

I think our prospects this off season are better too, more attractive. I do think they need to fire Atkins if they actually do want to put this thing back on the rails for 2025. I can agree with you on that.

 

[aingefan]

I don't know if I trust this front office to do that.

Last two years the "big bats" were 35 year old Brandon Belt and a 40 year old Justin Turner.

Plus a swing and a miss on one guy.

Skepticism is fair enough, but they’ve generally done okay in free agency. There’s gonna be lotsa competition at the top end. I’ll keep my glass half full that they get one.

Ps, Belt was fine btw. Not quite enough, but fine.

 

[MK78]

Ps, Belt was fine btw. Not quite enough, but fine.

Well last year they still managed to squeak into the wildcard games. This year it was a disaster, Turner had a good 2 week stretch other than that he was a bust.

 

[DFF]

Francis is the team ace now?

 

[Eyedea]

And here I thought Serven was the reason for his success.

 

[dredeye]

And here I thought Serven was the reason for his success.

We all make mistakes lol.

 

[shaner8989]

Francis has been the best pitcher on the team for over a month now. Pretty awesome considering I thought his career was done

 

[canucksfan]

Francis has been the best pitcher on the team for over a month now. Pretty awesome considering I thought his career was done

Baseball is different than other sports in that a player could be pretty much waiver material and a minor adjustment makes them really good.

Jose Bautista is an example.

 

[MK78]

Baseball is different than other sports in that a player could be pretty much waiver material and a minor adjustment makes them really good.

Jose Bautista is an example.

Yeah but it doesn't happen too often, or often it doesn't last like it did for Bautista for 5 great years.

Or it goes hard into reverse, like Manoah.

 

[canucksfan]

Yeah but it doesn't happen too often, or often it doesn't last like it did for Bautista for 5 great years.

Or it goes hard into reverse, like Manoah.

Yup. Some of the relievers are weird. The Mariners had that closer who was a bartender at one point.

With the emergence of Francis, I don't think the Jays need another starter unless it's a guy like Burnes. Adding a #3 or #4 is pointless.

Gausman
Berrios
Francis
Bassitt
Rodriguez/Manoah/Bloss

is good enough. Spend the money on bats and bullpen.

 

[Eyedea]

Yeah but it doesn't happen too often, or often it doesn't last like it did for Bautista for 5 great years.

Or it goes hard into reverse, like Manoah.

What made that era really special was that both Bautista and EE turned into stars. Because honestly, aside from Lind re-figuring it out for a bit and a blip from Lawrie, homegrown bats were very dire.

It also really takes a ton of luck and a bunch of randos to go hot for a season to go on a run. The Colabello’s, Travis’, Barney’s, and Carrera’s of the team.

 

[MK78]

What made that era really special was that both Bautista and EE turned into stars. Because honestly, aside from Lind re-figuring it out for a bit and a blip from Lawrie, homegrown bats were very dire.

It also really takes a ton of luck and a bunch of randos to go hot for a season to go on a run. The Colabello’s, Travis’, Barney’s, and Carrera’s of the team.

Colabello was caught for roids, so that season was BS. But yeah, Ryan Goins too had a good stretch in 2015.

 

[Eyedea]

Yup. Some of the relievers are weird. The Mariners had that closer who was a bartender at one point.

With the emergence of Francis, I don't think the Jays need another starter unless it's a guy like Burnes. Adding a #3 or #4 is pointless.

Gausman
Berrios
Francis
Bassitt
Rodriguez/Manoah/Bloss

is good enough. Spend the money on bats and bullpen.

Axford was a phone sales rep and bartender at one point. Delabar was a HS assistant coach. The fact that they ended up being a reliever of the year or an all star shows the beauty of the sport. You don’t really see that in professional sports outside of maybe soccer with some players grinding through semi/non pro leagues.

 

[MK78]

12 games under... finishing up the season with a whimper....

 

[GermanJay]

Huge Tank loss with the bullpen blowing it. Perfect

 

[Eyedea]

Colabello was caught for roids, so that season was BS. But yeah, Ryan Goins too had a good stretch in 2015.

I don’t really see the BS. He had the minor league numbers to suggest he had a legit bat, he just ended up riding an insane BABIP that year. For instance we got Melky after his PED season and he still ended up putting up a solid performance in the 2nd year of his 2 year deal (2013 was just trash in general).

 

[Suntouchable13]

I am thinking Soto will remain with the Yankees. They can just give him whatever he wants, so how will that extension not get done? So, I’d like Santander and either Rooker or Alonso.

 

[MK78]

I am thinking Soto will remain with the Yankees. They can just give him whatever he wants, so how will that extension not get done? So, I’d like Santander and either Rooker or Alonso.

Yeah i dont think the Jays have a snowball's chance of signing Soto. I bet it gets done before FA kicks off.

The others are more likely.

 

[canucksfan]

How is Barger's defense rated at 3B?