Blue Jays GDT: 2024 v4 |Mon, Jun 17 | vs BOS | 7pm ET/4pm PT | Pivetta vs Kikuchi

[MS]

That was a very bad pitch call.

The one thing you don't want is a HR - just keep it away. Instead they groove a fastball into his wheelhouse.

And ... phew.

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What a difference a day makes. 24 hours ago the season was over, outscored 17-3, everyone sucks ... and now they've actually split the series which is like a win against that Baltimore team and they've actually gained pretty significantly on a slumping Minnesota team and are now only 3 games out. Crazy.

Also a nice recovery for Justin Turner in these couple games.

 

[MK78]

Well the blowpen really tried to blow it, but those extra runs were huge.

well I'm surprised they were able to split this series, after being manhandled in the first two.

Vladdy with the big hit, its exactly what the Jays need from him, not slap singles.

 

[LaP]

As bad as the offense and starting pitchers have been i feel like the bullpen has been a bigger issue.

Romano and Sawnson have been atrocious and it means everyone else is playing 2 rank above their grade.

 

[Discoverer]

That was a very bad pitch call.

The one thing you don't want is a HR - just keep it away. Instead they groove a fastball into his wheelhouse.

And ... phew.

___________

What a difference a day makes. 24 hours ago the season was over, outscored 17-3, everyone sucks ... and now they've actually split the series which is like a win against that Baltimore team and they've actually gained pretty significantly on a slumping Minnesota team and are now only 3 games out. Crazy.

Also a nice recovery for Justin Turner in these couple games.

Jansen was calling for it up. Still maybe not ideal, but I think it was more poor location than a poor call.

 

[MS]

As bad as the offense and starting pitchers have been i feel like the bullpen has been a bigger issue.

Romano and Sawnson have been atrocious and it means everyone else is playing 2 rank above their grade.

Definitely.

Garcia is the only reliever they have with a FIP under 4.00.

Pop and Pearson are throwing the 7th/8th innings in close games because Swanson exploded and now Romano is hurt/shit (after Green being hurt before that). Cabrera has regressed to his St. Louis iteration that can't throw strikes.

I thought Burr looked decent in his games and was surprised they kept up Little over him.

There's not a lot in Buffalo but I do wonder a bit if Eric Pardinho who has been unhittable in AA might be on the radar soon.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

This is what a good offensive day does for a team. The pitching doesn't have to be perfect. Let's face it, if the offence was at their 26th ranked 3.89 runs per game seasonal rate they lose this game. Vladdy has to hit homers which is what he should be doing as a star for this team. Let's hope Bichette finds his game out west.

 

[red devil]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798835292352475452

 

[Suntouchable13]

Have to sweep Oakland. Then all of a sudden they are above .500. Now after that, I think they can split with Cleveland, but they have to have a winning record against Boston. This next stretch will tell us a lot. This is the season right here, imo.

 

[Eyedea]

Slap singles, home runs, whatever it may be, Vladdy’s been the best 1B in the AL.

 

[MS]

Slap singles, home runs, whatever it may be, Vladdy’s been the best 1B in the AL.

Probably neck-and-neck with Mountcastle for the season as a whole but yeah.

As an aside, it's really weird how few quality slugging 1B there are in MLB and especially in the AL. Like half the 30 teams have a sub-100 OPS+ guy as their main 1B option. Seems like it was only a few years ago that if you had a 1B with a 125 OPS+ that was kind of shit.

 

[Eyedea]

Probably neck-and-neck with Mountcastle for the season as a whole but yeah.

As an aside, it's really weird how few quality slugging 1B there are in MLB and especially in the AL. Like half the 30 teams have a sub-100 OPS+ guy as their main 1B option. Seems like it was only a few years ago that if you had a 1B with a 125 OPS+ that was kind of shit.

Funny enough, MLB wide the two best offensive positions are SS and RF.

Mookie, Gunnar, and Witt probably do a lot of heavy lifting there but then you have Bo

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Have to sweep Oakland. Then all of a sudden they are above .500. Now after that, I think they can split with Cleveland, but they have to have a winning record against Boston. This next stretch will tell us a lot. This is the season right here, imo.

Yep. Oakland has some interesting players who can be pesky at times, but ultimately, they're garbage and should be swept. Can't let Hogan Harris and Luis Medina shut you down, even if the latter is decent

It would be nice to get some runs early for once

 

[MS]

Funny enough, MLB wide the two best offensive positions are SS and RF.

Mookie, Gunnar, and Witt probably do a lot of heavy lifting there but then you have Bo

Yeah, we seem to be moving into an era where explosive young athletes who can catch up to 100 are the dominant hitters (and are usually the sort of athletic skillset that projects to SS or CF) instead of big slow roided monsters.

Yep. Oakland has some interesting players who can be pesky at times, but ultimately, they're garbage and should be swept. Can't let Hogan Harris and Luis Medina shut you down, even if the latter is decent

It would be nice to get some runs early for once

I wonder what the cost for Brent Rooker would be as a DH. His age doesn’t really fit their timetable and dude has raked the past couple years.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

I wonder what the cost for Brent Rooker would be as a DH. His age doesn’t really fit their timetable and dude has raked the past couple years.

Shouldn't be a ton for a DH. Then again, he's under control for a few more years.... But yeah, I'd definitely be interested as he'd bring some much-needed power. Well, assuming the Jays don't sap it all lol

 

[Puckstuff]

Shouldn't be a ton for a DH. Then again, he's under control for a few more years.... But yeah, I'd definitely be interested as he'd bring some much-needed power. Well, assuming the Jays don't sap it all lol

Steal Soto from the Yankees in the 2024 FA and trade for Rooker and they just added 150 runs to their offense, which is like catapulting ahead of 20 teams. We don't need a rebuild, we need Soto, lol.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

we need Soto,

players like that don't want to play for the Jays.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Can Vlad hit more dingers please? The guy has so much power, as we saw again yesterday, he can hit em anywhere on the field. But why he has only 6 now, is a mystery to me. Absolutely maddening. A guy with his power should have at least 15 by now. If Gunnar Henderson has 19 already, then no reason for Vlad to not have at least 15. IF he hit to his power potential, we’d be a lot better record wise.

 

[Discoverer]

Can Vlad hit more dingers please? The guy has so much power, as we saw again yesterday, he can hit em anywhere on the field. But why he has only 6 now, is a mystery to me. Absolutely maddening. A guy with his power should have at least 15 by now. If Gunnar Henderson has 19 already, then no reason for Vlad to not have at least 15. IF he hit to his power potential, we’d be a lot better record wise.

He still doesn't get the ball in the air enough. Even with a clear weakness like that, though, he's been really good this year and absolutely dominant over the last month+. It would be really nice to see his start taking advantage of the power (a couple HR in the Baltimore series is a start), but if he keeps up this '93 John Olerud impression, I won't be too concerned about the lack of HR.

 

[jetsforever]

Probably neck-and-neck with Mountcastle for the season as a whole but yeah.

As an aside, it's really weird how few quality slugging 1B there are in MLB and especially in the AL. Like half the 30 teams have a sub-100 OPS+ guy as their main 1B option. Seems like it was only a few years ago that if you had a 1B with a 125 OPS+ that was kind of shit.

Harper's not bad

 

[TGB]

Let's hope Vladdy remembers exactly what he did to lift the ball into the air. A Vladdy getting the ball up is a very dangerous Vladdy. If he does, and he starts getting more lift on his hits, he might go on a massive home run streak.

 

[Discoverer]

Yep. Oakland has some interesting players who can be pesky at times, but ultimately, they're garbage and should be swept. Can't let Hogan Harris and Luis Medina shut you down, even if the latter is decent

It would be nice to get some runs early for once

The Jays could really use a sweep right now, but a sweep is always pretty unlikely in baseball, even against a team like Oakland.

 

[Suntouchable13]

The Jays could really use a sweep right now, but a sweep is always pretty unlikely in baseball, even against a team like Oakland.

Yes, but that’s how you go on a run to get back into a race. Winning 15 of 20 or something. You say unlikely, but that’s the kind of hole the Jays have dug themselves. You gotta sweep them.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

As an aside, it's really weird how few quality slugging 1B there are in MLB and especially in the AL. Like half the 30 teams have a sub-100 OPS+ guy as their main 1B option. Seems like it was only a few years ago that if you had a 1B with a 125 OPS+ that was kind of shit.

Didn't realize how bad it was in the AL. Guys like Diaz and Lowe don't have much power, and then you have black holes in Houston, Oakland, New York, Boston (Casas hurt), Detroit, etc. Certainly wasn't expecting Torkelson to be a complete potato this year.

If everyone is healthy, the power guys at the top should be Casas, Naylor, Mountcastle, Vlad, and Pasquantino. Not much hope beyond that.

 

[Discoverer]

Yes, but that’s how you go on a run to get back into a race. Winning 15 of 20 or something. You say unlikely, but that’s the kind of hole the Jays have dug themselves. You gotta sweep them.

Eh... they're 3 games out of a playoff spot with 100 games left. Literally 100 games. No one series is going to make or break the season. Just win the series and move onto the next one... anything better is a bonus.

If anything, the "must win" games will be the 35 games they play against teams they're battling with for a Wild Card spot.

 

[MS]

Eh... they're 3 games out of a playoff spot with 100 games left. Literally 100 games. No one series is going to make or break the season. Just win the series and move onto the next one... anything better is a bonus.

If anything, the "must win" games will be the 35 games they play against teams they're battling with for a Wild Card spot.

I'd normally agree but I think psychologically that winning this series against a weak Oakland team and getting back to basically .500 (and within 2ish games of the playoffs) is *massive* ahead of the run of games against tough teams for the rest of the month.