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Red Sox/MLB 2024 Off-Season Part 3: Full Throttle Edition: Sale Dealt to Braves
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BruinsFanSince94
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It’s John Henry and co. He was able to move a contract off the books, fill a hole with a pretty good upside player ready for MLB action and also makes some prospects (Yorke, Romero) movable for pitching.
You can hate ownership and like the front office. I’ve really liked the bigger moves from Breslow so far. Also understand more is needed but this was a huge first step.
Donnie Shulzhoffer
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You have turned into a recording that we all heard countless times. The only difference now is you replaced the name Bloom with Breslow.
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Will this trade do anything to improve the team? Honestly, I couldn’t care less at this point. After delivering four World Series titles that none of us ever believed we would see, Red Sox ownership has gone into full-on Jacobs mode.
Of the four teams in Boston, the Red Sox are solidly in fourth place. Yawn.
Of the four teams in Boston, the Red Sox are solidly in fourth place. Yawn.
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GatorMike
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If it works out, you've traded one season of Chris Sale for a 23-year old starting 2B with six years of team control... that would definitely improve the team.
DKH
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Werner is cheap and has been pulling strings as Henry lives across the pond
He also has been getting away with minimal blame as Bloom, Henry, and Kennedy (deservedly) have been getting their nuts kicked in
According to Gammoms, on his birthday here at home in the Fall, dinner was just with wife and 2 kids he barely was done with cake went over to Fenway and told inner circle Bloom gone
1. They better be North of 200 M and removing Dodgers & Mets be in top 3 overall (so top 5)
2. Nothing beats playoff baseball at Fenway with a competitive team
Get Hernandez & Montgomery or a trade for a top young pitcher they should be able to hang around
Time to stop the roller coaster and be bullies as long as league allows you to
if it’s the reckless but fun spending Henry of 2003-2018 I’m in
Werner is cheap and has been pulling strings as Henry lives across the pond
He also has been getting away with minimal blame as Bloom, Henry, and Kennedy (deservedly) have been getting their nuts kicked in
According to Gammoms, on his birthday here at home in the Fall, dinner was just with wife and 2 kids he barely was done with cake went over to Fenway and told inner circle Bloom gone
1. They better be North of 200 M and removing Dodgers & Mets be in top 3 overall (so top 5)
2. Nothing beats playoff baseball at Fenway with a competitive team
Get Hernandez & Montgomery or a trade for a top young pitcher they should be able to hang around
Time to stop the roller coaster and be bullies as long as league allows you to
DKH
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Ok why are Red Sox retaining 6.7 M for Turner this year
They are at about 25 M in retained salary in 2024 all basically drops and 2025 clear
They are in seriously good shape - but if they aren’t flirting with luxury tax and North of 200 M they are cheaping out
Castillo could be on Block - he’s a one
They are at about 25 M in retained salary in 2024 all basically drops and 2025 clear
They are in seriously good shape - but if they aren’t flirting with luxury tax and North of 200 M they are cheaping out
Plus no more Sale talk - almost as bad as Mac Jones
They would need a gun to get Kirby from Seattle
Castillo could be on Block - he’s a one
BruinsFanSince94
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If you can’t separate, that’s not my problem. Every situation is different.
quietbruinfan
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I like this trade. Sale was on the 17th hole in his career, and I am encouraged that they actually spent the extra 17 million to get a good prospect at second base. They have to use their financial advantage somewhere, and while this is not ideal, at least they used it.
Now is Grissom at least Brock Holt, or is he a starting second baseman?
Now is Grissom at least Brock Holt, or is he a starting second baseman?
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Donnie Shulzhoffer
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BruinsFanSince94
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No, Donnie. The point is that you can’t separate.
Craig Breslow is Craig Breslow.
Chaim Bloom is Chaim Bloom.
I liked Chaim. I like Breslow. I don’t like ownership. You don’t like ownership so everything sucks.
You can’t separate. Work on it, big guy.
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surreal to me, nearly 35 million for an unproven prospect and a pitcher with nearly a 5 ERA in the last 2 days.
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quietbruinfan
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Yep, they definitely overspent on a modest return. Breslow gets very mixed reviews so far.
BostonBob
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Rede Sox getting some positive reviews about this deal so far. 
from cbssports.com:
Red Sox grade: A
Give new baseball operations boss Craig Breslow credit. He's willing to make a bold move.
Grissom, 23 on Jan. 5, appeared to be the Braves' shortstop of the future at this time last year. Those expectations had been set after an introduction to the majors that saw him post a 119 OPS+ in 41 games in 2022. Alas, rather than take the reins where departed free agent Dansby Swanson left them, Grissom instead spent most of the season in Triple-A after struggling both at the plate and in the field.
Grissom batted .330/.419/.501 on the farm, providing ample reason to think he'll still provide value with his bat. Defensively, it seems like a settled issue that he's not capable of being a starting shortstop. The Red Sox will presumably plop him down at second base (with Trevor Story sticking at shortstop) and let him do his thing -- an approach that should work in both his and their favor.
Given that Grissom has oodles more team control remaining -- and won't clear league-minimum compensation for some time to come -- it's fair to write that this is a move for the future that can pay dividends in the present. These Red Sox aren't immediate title threats like the Braves are, so that's a sensible approach in our estimation.
The Red Sox will have to again sort out their rotation situation following Sale's departure. On Friday, Boston signed veteran starter Lucas Giolito to a two-year contract with the hope that he can bounce back from a down year. Breslow now has more reason to dip into the free-agent market again.
from thesportingnews.com:
Red Sox grade: B-minus
Shocking, right? The Red Sox have another position player on the roster with a bat that’s better than his glove. In so many ways, Grissom’s probably the prototypical Boston player.
Now, I realize I just spent time talking about how Grissom was non-essential for the Braves, but that’s a rather unique situation. Atlanta is freaking loaded. Grissom wouldn’t be non-essential for most teams in the majors. He’s still a high-upside player, with a bat that could absolutely be All-Star level for many years to come. And his big-league debut back in 2022 produced a pretty memorable moment at Fenway Park, his new baseball home.
We’ll see where the Red Sox intend to play him, but if nothing else his versatility will be helpful.
Of course, the Red Sox were already hurting for starting pitching, which is why they were connected to pretty much every single free-agent starter on the market, even the biggest-ticket pitchers. Now, Sale’s out of the equation, which ups the pressure to land Jordan Montgomery, Blake Snell or any of the other starters available via free agency or trade.
from fansided.com:
Red Sox trade grade: A
Sale's injury woes have been just one of many issues with the Boston Red Sox rotation in recent years. It's been one of the worst rotations statistically in MLB, which has overshadowed an overall impressive offense and, more importantly, kept the Red Sox out of legitimate playoff contention.
Thus, new Chief Baseball Officer Craig Breslow was tasked with resetting the rotation, which this is a huge start of after also signing veteran Lucas Giolito. Perhaps more importantly, though, in getting out of the Sale contract and shuffling up the arms in the rotation to begin an overhaul, Breslow addressed one of the biggest needs for the Braves with Grissom, who has flashed at the major-league level already while still turning just 23 years old on Jan. 5.
Grissom can be an everyday second baseman for the Red Sox, a role they've struggled to find in recent years, and a problem that was exacerbated with Trevor Stroy missing the start of the 2023 season. Now, they can pair the two together in the middle of the infield and hopefully comprise a highly formidable duo in the lineup -- especially since Grissom has six full seasons of club control remaining.
The one cause for concern with Boston would be that they have to make more moves to improve the rotation, whether that's to sign Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, or someone else. Even still, this is a massive shift for the Red Sox, but one that needed to be made to get this organization out of its recent funk.
from cbssports.com:
Red Sox grade: A
Give new baseball operations boss Craig Breslow credit. He's willing to make a bold move.
Grissom, 23 on Jan. 5, appeared to be the Braves' shortstop of the future at this time last year. Those expectations had been set after an introduction to the majors that saw him post a 119 OPS+ in 41 games in 2022. Alas, rather than take the reins where departed free agent Dansby Swanson left them, Grissom instead spent most of the season in Triple-A after struggling both at the plate and in the field.
Grissom batted .330/.419/.501 on the farm, providing ample reason to think he'll still provide value with his bat. Defensively, it seems like a settled issue that he's not capable of being a starting shortstop. The Red Sox will presumably plop him down at second base (with Trevor Story sticking at shortstop) and let him do his thing -- an approach that should work in both his and their favor.
Given that Grissom has oodles more team control remaining -- and won't clear league-minimum compensation for some time to come -- it's fair to write that this is a move for the future that can pay dividends in the present. These Red Sox aren't immediate title threats like the Braves are, so that's a sensible approach in our estimation.
The Red Sox will have to again sort out their rotation situation following Sale's departure. On Friday, Boston signed veteran starter Lucas Giolito to a two-year contract with the hope that he can bounce back from a down year. Breslow now has more reason to dip into the free-agent market again.
from thesportingnews.com:
Red Sox grade: B-minus
Shocking, right? The Red Sox have another position player on the roster with a bat that’s better than his glove. In so many ways, Grissom’s probably the prototypical Boston player.
Now, I realize I just spent time talking about how Grissom was non-essential for the Braves, but that’s a rather unique situation. Atlanta is freaking loaded. Grissom wouldn’t be non-essential for most teams in the majors. He’s still a high-upside player, with a bat that could absolutely be All-Star level for many years to come. And his big-league debut back in 2022 produced a pretty memorable moment at Fenway Park, his new baseball home.
We’ll see where the Red Sox intend to play him, but if nothing else his versatility will be helpful.
Of course, the Red Sox were already hurting for starting pitching, which is why they were connected to pretty much every single free-agent starter on the market, even the biggest-ticket pitchers. Now, Sale’s out of the equation, which ups the pressure to land Jordan Montgomery, Blake Snell or any of the other starters available via free agency or trade.
from fansided.com:
Red Sox trade grade: A
Sale's injury woes have been just one of many issues with the Boston Red Sox rotation in recent years. It's been one of the worst rotations statistically in MLB, which has overshadowed an overall impressive offense and, more importantly, kept the Red Sox out of legitimate playoff contention.
Thus, new Chief Baseball Officer Craig Breslow was tasked with resetting the rotation, which this is a huge start of after also signing veteran Lucas Giolito. Perhaps more importantly, though, in getting out of the Sale contract and shuffling up the arms in the rotation to begin an overhaul, Breslow addressed one of the biggest needs for the Braves with Grissom, who has flashed at the major-league level already while still turning just 23 years old on Jan. 5.
Grissom can be an everyday second baseman for the Red Sox, a role they've struggled to find in recent years, and a problem that was exacerbated with Trevor Stroy missing the start of the 2023 season. Now, they can pair the two together in the middle of the infield and hopefully comprise a highly formidable duo in the lineup -- especially since Grissom has six full seasons of club control remaining.
The one cause for concern with Boston would be that they have to make more moves to improve the rotation, whether that's to sign Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, or someone else. Even still, this is a massive shift for the Red Sox, but one that needed to be made to get this organization out of its recent funk.
Donnie Shulzhoffer
Rocket Surgery
Well when it comes to the Red Sox having the highest ticket prices, not spending and finishing last the last two seasons.
I think this sucks yes
BruinsFanSince94
The Perfect Fan ™
It’s objectively a good deal unless somebody just wants to hate, it’s 6 years of control of one of the games better young players in exchange for a guy who has made 31 starts in 4 years.Rede Sox getting some positive reviews about this deal so far.
from cbssports.com:
Red Sox grade: A
Give new baseball operations boss Craig Breslow credit. He's willing to make a bold move.
Grissom, 23 on Jan. 5, appeared to be the Braves' shortstop of the future at this time last year. Those expectations had been set after an introduction to the majors that saw him post a 119 OPS+ in 41 games in 2022. Alas, rather than take the reins where departed free agent Dansby Swanson left them, Grissom instead spent most of the season in Triple-A after struggling both at the plate and in the field.
Grissom batted .330/.419/.501 on the farm, providing ample reason to think he'll still provide value with his bat. Defensively, it seems like a settled issue that he's not capable of being a starting shortstop. The Red Sox will presumably plop him down at second base (with Trevor Story sticking at shortstop) and let him do his thing -- an approach that should work in both his and their favor.
Given that Grissom has oodles more team control remaining -- and won't clear league-minimum compensation for some time to come -- it's fair to write that this is a move for the future that can pay dividends in the present. These Red Sox aren't immediate title threats like the Braves are, so that's a sensible approach in our estimation.
The Red Sox will have to again sort out their rotation situation following Sale's departure. On Friday, Boston signed veteran starter Lucas Giolito to a two-year contract with the hope that he can bounce back from a down year. Breslow now has more reason to dip into the free-agent market again.
from thesportingnews.com:
Red Sox grade: B-minus
Shocking, right? The Red Sox have another position player on the roster with a bat that’s better than his glove. In so many ways, Grissom’s probably the prototypical Boston player.
Now, I realize I just spent time talking about how Grissom was non-essential for the Braves, but that’s a rather unique situation. Atlanta is freaking loaded. Grissom wouldn’t be non-essential for most teams in the majors. He’s still a high-upside player, with a bat that could absolutely be All-Star level for many years to come. And his big-league debut back in 2022 produced a pretty memorable moment at Fenway Park, his new baseball home.
We’ll see where the Red Sox intend to play him, but if nothing else his versatility will be helpful.
Of course, the Red Sox were already hurting for starting pitching, which is why they were connected to pretty much every single free-agent starter on the market, even the biggest-ticket pitchers. Now, Sale’s out of the equation, which ups the pressure to land Jordan Montgomery, Blake Snell or any of the other starters available via free agency or trade.
from fansided.com:
Red Sox trade grade: A
Sale's injury woes have been just one of many issues with the Boston Red Sox rotation in recent years. It's been one of the worst rotations statistically in MLB, which has overshadowed an overall impressive offense and, more importantly, kept the Red Sox out of legitimate playoff contention.
Thus, new Chief Baseball Officer Craig Breslow was tasked with resetting the rotation, which this is a huge start of after also signing veteran Lucas Giolito. Perhaps more importantly, though, in getting out of the Sale contract and shuffling up the arms in the rotation to begin an overhaul, Breslow addressed one of the biggest needs for the Braves with Grissom, who has flashed at the major-league level already while still turning just 23 years old on Jan. 5.
Grissom can be an everyday second baseman for the Red Sox, a role they've struggled to find in recent years, and a problem that was exacerbated with Trevor Stroy missing the start of the 2023 season. Now, they can pair the two together in the middle of the infield and hopefully comprise a highly formidable duo in the lineup -- especially since Grissom has six full seasons of club control remaining.
The one cause for concern with Boston would be that they have to make more moves to improve the rotation, whether that's to sign Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, or someone else. Even still, this is a massive shift for the Red Sox, but one that needed to be made to get this organization out of its recent funk.
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