Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

[Gliff]

so they'll be drafting 4th or 5th overall. got it

They have a higher chance of picking top 3 then #5.

 

[Leonardo87]

Hey fellas, locked the tank thread we are set for 3rd worst , so no reason to root for them to lose Thursday. if you still are rooting for them to lose then think you are in the wrong forum, lol.

So it’s about the lottery now and discussion of who we could pick, so moved the last few posts in here. Thanks.

 

[Gliff]

Edmonton's pick is now guaranteed 23-26 (before the final 4 can change this obviously).

 

[190Octane]

So if Chicago or San Jose win the lottery we are guaranteed 3? Not sure how this works.

 

[GermanRocket7]

So if Chicago or San Jose win the lottery we are guaranteed 3? Not sure how this works.

Nope, there are two draws. If San Jose or Shitcago win #1, another team up to #12 in the standings might still leapfrog us, so that San Jose/Shitcago gets #3 and we get #4.

 

[190Octane]

Nope, there are two draws. If San Jose or Shitcago win #1, another team up to #12 in the standings might still leapfrog us, so that San Jose/Shitcago gets #3 and we get #4.

So absolute worst case scenario at 5, most likely 3 or 4?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I'm now on the Buium train. Kid upped his stock alot in past few weeks. Sounds like a great kid from Laguna Niguel, it said his parents are immigrants from Israel. I have a cousin who lives in Israel atm.

 

[JAHV]

So absolute worst case scenario at 5, most likely 3 or 4?

Spots 4 or 5 are the most likely, since the odds are good that at least one team will jump them, and there's a good chance that two do. This is a great site for examining those odds: 2024 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon

There are two ways the Ducks stay at pick 3: one is if both of the top two teams win the lottery, which is possible, but fairly unlikely. Even more unlikely is the second way, which is if at least one of the top two teams wins the lottery and at least one team from spots 14, 15, or 16 wins the lottery. Those teams can only move up ten spots, so it would leave them behind the Ducks in the draft order.

Edit: I suppose a third way is if TWO teams from the 14, 15, 16 slots win the lottery, but that's roughly a 0.0025 chance.

 

[tomd]

So absolute worst case scenario at 5, most likely 3 or 4?

Spots 4 or 5 are the most likely, since the odds are good that at least one team will jump them, and there's a good chance that two do. This is a great site for examining those odds: 2024 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon

It's always amused me that the least likely spot the Ducks (or any other team) will pick is the position they actually finished in. Ducks have only an 8% chance of drafting 3rd. It's not until the 8th pick and later that the odds are greater that you'll pick in the spot you finished. Crazy NHL.

 

[Terry Yake]

I'm now on the Buium train. Kid upped his stock alot in past few weeks. Sounds like a great kid from Laguna Niguel, it said his parents are immigrants from Israel. I have a cousin who lives in Israel atm.

i really like him as well, but i do wonder how much his numbers were inflated due to playing for a team that outscored the opposition by a ridiculous amount. his skating and hockey IQ are off the charts though

i think they end up picking dickinson, but i wouldn't be mad if buium or lindstrom are the picks either

 

[Mr Rogers]

So awkward having like a week off before the last game of the season.

About two and a half weeks separate our last game and the likely lotto date which is about a week less than last year, kinda nice.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

i really like him as well, but i do wonder how much his numbers were inflated due to playing for a team that outscored the opposition by a ridiculous amount. his skating and hockey IQ are off the charts though

i think they end up picking dickinson, but i wouldn't be mad if buium or lindstrom are the picks either

Its mainly the IQ and skating that I like but also that he played well in playoffs. Verbeek seems to be all in on hockey sense with guys like Carlsson and Mintyukov.
Whats interesting is Zeev Buium - Men's Ice Hockey - University of Denver Athletics has him listed as 6'2 180 pounds. That is only a inch shorter than Dickinson and the same height as Levshunov.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

NHL ows us one.. They better rig the lottery for us.. But we all know Chicago is going to get Celebrini.

Hopefully they can save that “owe us one” for next season when we’re prob 9-12 range

I’m actually fine staying 3…. Even 4/5 I’m comfortable we getting a good player

 

[Terry Yake]

yeah, i wouldn't be broken up at all about picking 4 or 5 in this draft. it's not like last year where falling out of the top 3 would've been disastrous

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Its mainly the IQ and skating that I like but also that he played well in playoffs. Verbeek seems to be all in on hockey sense with guys like Carlsson and Mintyukov.
Whats interesting is Zeev Buium - Men's Ice Hockey - University of Denver Athletics has him listed as 6'2 180 pounds. That is only a inch shorter than Dickinson and the same height as Levshunov.

EP has Zeev listed at 6'0 and 183 lbs. Central Scouting also has Zeev at 6'0 and 183 lbs. Tankathon has Zeev listed at 6'0 and 183 lbs.

Zeev's brother is listed at 6'4. If you go back a page, then you'll find a tweet showing both brothers as Zeev is being interviewed. Zeev is a lot shorter than two inches to his brother.

 

[Kalv]

So absolute worst case scenario at 5, most likely 3 or 4?

Most likely 4 or 5 actually. The least chance is for #3 actually.

Percentages are floating around somewhere on the board here, but is usually also available on Tankathon website

 

[Ducksforcup]

Random, but anyone able to get any information about possibly securing tickets to see the draft live?

 

[tomd]

EP has Zeev listed at 6'0 and 183 lbs. Central Scouting also has Zeev at 6'0 and 183 lbs. Tankathon has Zeev listed at 6'0 and 183 lbs.

Zeev's brother is listed at 6'4. If you go back a page, then you'll find a tweet showing both brothers as Zeev is being interviewed. Zeev is a lot shorter than two inches to his brother.

It's all about the combine measurements now...if he measures 6'2" he should go top 5 for sure.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

How would this teams defense look in 3 years if they draft a Dman ?

Defense:
Mintyukov/Buium
Zellweger/Luneau ?
LaCombe/Hinds/Warren

Mintyukov/Luneau
Zellweger/Dickinson (playing on his offside, someone will end up having to)
LaCombe/Hinds/Warren

Mintyukov/Levshuvnov or Yakemechuck
Zellweger/Luneau
LaCombe/Hinds/Warren

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Celebrini - 2006 - June 13th
Demidov - 2005 - Dec 10th
Lindstrom - 2006 - Feb 3rd
Iginla - 2006 - Aug 1st
Catton - 2006 - Jan 14th
Helenius - 2006 - May 11th
Brandsegg-Nygard - 2005 - Oct 5th
Eiserman - 2006 - Aug 29th
Greentree - 2006 - Jan 1st
Sennecke - 2006 - Jan 28th
Parascak - 2006 - May 26th
Basha - 2005 - Nov 8th
Luchanko - 2006 - Aug 21st
Hage - 2006 - April 14th
Hemming - 2006 - June 27th
Boisvert - 2006 - March 17th
Chernyshov - 2005 - Nov 30th


Dickinson - 2006 - June 7th
Buium - 2005 - Dec 2nd
Silayev - 2006 - April 11th
Yakemchuk - 2005 - Sept 29th
Levshunov - 2005 - Oct 28th
Parekh - 2006 - Feb 15th
Jiricek - 2006 - June 28th

Didn't realize Eiserman was one of the youngest in this draft class, perhaps changes his perspective even if slightly. I always find it interesting to see who the youngest and oldest prospects are in each class. Some of these guys will barely be 18 in time for training camp, while others turn 19 before next season starts. Its definitely something scouts consider.

Celebrini, Helenius, Dickinson, Eiserman, Parekh, Iginla, Parascak, Silayev among others, are having or have had huge years for kids in their age 17 seasons.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

How would this teams defense look in 3 years if they draft a Dman ?

Defense:
Mintyukov/Luneau
Zellweger/Dickinson (playing on his offside, someone will end up having to)
LaCombe/Hinds/Warren

Why would you put Dickinson on his off-side when Zell has been playing RD in juniors, AHL, and NHL so far?

Left shooting D that have played exclusively RD in juniors or NCAA: LaCombe (NCAA), Zell (juniors), and Hinds (juniors).

On PK
LaCombe-Hinds/Warren
Dickinson-Luneau

On PP
PP1 QB Zell
PP2 Minty-Luneau

 

[Gliff]

[MOD]

Celebrini - 2006 - June 13th
Demidov - 2005 - Dec 10th
Lindstrom - 2006 - Feb 3rd
Iginla - 2006 - Aug 1st
Catton - 2006 - Jan 14th
Helenius - 2006 - May 11th
Brandsegg-Nygard - 2005 - Oct 5th
Eiserman - 2006 - Aug 29th
Greentree - 2006 - Jan 1st
Sennecke - 2006 - Jan 28th
Parascak - 2006 - May 26th
Basha - 2005 - Nov 8th
Luchanko - 2006 - Aug 21st
Hage - 2006 - April 14th
Hemming - 2006 - June 27th
Boisvert - 2006 - March 17th
Chernyshov - 2005 - Nov 30th


Dickinson - 2006 - June 7th
Buium - 2005 - Dec 2nd
Silayev - 2006 - April 11th
Yakemchuk - 2005 - Sept 29th
Levshunov - 2005 - Oct 28th
Parekh - 2006 - Feb 15th
Jiricek - 2006 - June 28th

Didn't realize Eiserman was one of the youngest in this draft class, perhaps changes his perspective even if slightly. I always find it interesting to see who the youngest and oldest prospects are in each class. Some of these guys will barely be 18 in time for training camp, while others turn 19 before next season starts. Its definitely something scouts consider.

Celebrini, Helenius, Dickinson, Eiserman, Parekh, Iginla, Parascak, Silayev among others, are having or have had huge years for kids in their age 17 seasons.

I think it depends on the player. If an overage player dominates because their physical gifts (speed, size, etc) then I am way more worried then an overager that dominates because of their overall game and hockey IQ. Levshunov is probably the guy most likely to fit this bill.

Being young is more likely to bump someone up for me then bumping down an older player. Eiserman is obviously a posterchild, but God he just brings nothing except his one skill. He can't even drive a line because he doesn't play with the puck.

I didn't know Iginla was that young.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Celebrini - 2006 - June 13th
Demidov - 2005 - Dec 10th
Lindstrom - 2006 - Feb 3rd
Iginla - 2006 - Aug 1st
Catton - 2006 - Jan 14th
Helenius - 2006 - May 11th
Brandsegg-Nygard - 2005 - Oct 5th
Eiserman - 2006 - Aug 29th
Greentree - 2006 - Jan 1st
Sennecke - 2006 - Jan 28th
Parascak - 2006 - May 26th
Basha - 2005 - Nov 8th
Luchanko - 2006 - Aug 21st
Hage - 2006 - April 14th
Hemming - 2006 - June 27th
Boisvert - 2006 - March 17th
Chernyshov - 2005 - Nov 30th


Dickinson - 2006 - June 7th
Buium - 2005 - Dec 2nd
Silayev - 2006 - April 11th
Yakemchuk - 2005 - Sept 29th
Levshunov - 2005 - Oct 28th
Parekh - 2006 - Feb 15th
Jiricek - 2006 - June 28th

Didn't realize Eiserman was one of the youngest in this draft class, perhaps changes his perspective even if slightly. I always find it interesting to see who the youngest and oldest prospects are in each class. Some of these guys will barely be 18 in time for training camp, while others turn 19 before next season starts. Its definitely something scouts consider.

Celebrini, Helenius, Dickinson, Eiserman, Parekh, Iginla, Parascak, Silayev among others, are having or have had huge years for kids in their age 17 seasons.

Probably should have added the league they are in to accentuate the age factor.

USNDTP U17
USNDTP U18
CHL ages: 16 - 20
USHL ages : 16- 20
NCAA ages: 17-26
European U18
European U20
Euro 2nd tier men's league
Euro 1st tier men's league

 

[FiveTacos]

Eiserman is obviously a posterchild, but God he just brings nothing except his one skill. He can't even drive a line because he doesn't play with the puck.

So basically he's Robitaille/Bossy/Hull or bust? Well I guess the middle ground could be Lupul.

 

[tomd]

Why would you put Dickinson on his off-side when Zell has been playing RD in juniors, AHL, and NHL so far?

Left shooting D that have played exclusively RD in juniors or NCAA: LaCombe (NCAA), Zell (juniors), and Hinds (juniors).

On PK
LaCombe-Hinds/Warren
Dickinson-Luneau

On PP
PP1 QB Zell
PP2 Minty-Luneau

Buium is also left-handed but I'm not sure if he is comfortable playing his off side.