WhatTheDuck
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Lindstrom was that one guy for me who had been trending towards being a top 5 lock, but that was before I first heard of the back issues. Love the prospect otherwise.
Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)
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Lindstrom was that one guy for me who had been trending towards being a top 5 lock, but that was before I first heard of the back issues. Love the prospect otherwise.
Hockey Duckie
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If either aren't injured, then this feels like top NFL prospects not going to a bowl game when their team isn't in the playoffs and/or bypassing the NFL combine before the draft.
Zegs2sendhelp
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Defense I like levshunov or buium
Forwards I like catton Demidov or iginla
Wishful thinking I like celebrini
I hope Anaheim isn’t afraid of packaging picks/extra players prospects to move up and go after a guy like MBN/greentree/sannecke
Forwards I like catton Demidov or iginla
Wishful thinking I like celebrini
I hope Anaheim isn’t afraid of packaging picks/extra players prospects to move up and go after a guy like MBN/greentree/sannecke
Fear won't be the issue...finding a team willing to trade out of the top 15 or so picks will be a problem. The talent drop is just too big to trade down in return for a late 20s 1st + a 2nd.
Hockey Duckie
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I saw this scouting report on Hemming in his Prospects' thread. Hemming is #59 (sometimes it looks like #50) in the video.
Some of the things cited are similar from Locked on NHL Prospects such that his defense is pretty good and there isn't much playmaking at the Liiga level as a 3rd/4th liner. Offensively, he's a perimeter player at the Liiga level, which isn't great, but probably normal for a 17-year old in a men's league. That's gotta change.
The positive thing about Hemming is he doesn't turn 18 until Jun 27th. He's young for his draft year and there could still be some growth to his game, seeing that he might have been promoted too early to Liiga.
It'll be interesting to see how he plays at the WJC-18 at the end of this month. If his offense doesn't show up at the tourney, then Hemming might not be drafted in the first round.
Some of the things cited are similar from Locked on NHL Prospects such that his defense is pretty good and there isn't much playmaking at the Liiga level as a 3rd/4th liner. Offensively, he's a perimeter player at the Liiga level, which isn't great, but probably normal for a 17-year old in a men's league. That's gotta change.
The positive thing about Hemming is he doesn't turn 18 until Jun 27th. He's young for his draft year and there could still be some growth to his game, seeing that he might have been promoted too early to Liiga.
It'll be interesting to see how he plays at the WJC-18 at the end of this month. If his offense doesn't show up at the tourney, then Hemming might not be drafted in the first round.
buium Va cutter is going to be glorious. I really hope buium is our pick. He has all pro potential
Zegs2sendhelp
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ya I’m all in on buium, still take levshunov ahead of him…. But if we are considering left handed dmen I take buium over Dickinson
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Yep, Dickinson is just slightly boring to me and the only thing I like about him is he's 6'3.
Lev/Buium/Parehk I'd take over him based on their 'Skill'. If Dicky was 5'11 he'd be ranked #20 or so.
I'm also not worried about Lev's hockey IQ. People knocked on Byfield and Fantilli's IQ and its not holding them back.
I don't disagree completely on the hockey IQ, but I think it's more important for a defenseman, where your job is reacting more than dictating.
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I still think it’s Dickinson (though it’s close), and Sam has the advantage of being 6’3. I’d be happy with either one
WhatTheDuck
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Still really keen on this player, even if his offensive ceiling doesn't look to be through the roof. We may just be picking a tad too high, but then again maybe not. Iginla's name has floated into our conversation and I'm not so sure he's the better prospect.
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Bad teams should get the best odds. Chicago is terrible.
The whole "keep a team from winning a ton" is such a joke. The current rule is limiting to 2 times in 5 years. Literally noone has ever won 3 times in 5 years. Edmonton moved up 3 times in 6 years. New Jersey moved up 3 times in 6 years.
I'm way more offended at like 2017 where 1, 2, and 3 went to the 5th, 13th, and 8th worst teams. Or in 2018 when Carolina went from 11 to 2. Or 2019 when Chicago went from 12 to 3, or when NY went from the playoffs to #1.
Agree to disagree. You can still allow them to be high just not the first pick and two years in a row potentially.
There's always a creeping suspicion with low offensive ceiling guys that are all around solid from Finland because they could be the next Koivu or Aho. If it was high offensive potential you could just ignore it because it's just another Kakko, Laine or Puljujärvi.
WhatTheDuck
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Yeah I find it quite encouraging that he's been able to produce at a similar rate to Laine who was quite the offensive juggernaut at that age, but Helenius is also lauded for his all around game/effort and is playing center.
Chicago shouldn't have won the 1st pick not because of the lotto but because they shouldn't have even had a first rounder as punishment for the Beach scandel. The fact that all the got was a fine for covering up a crime is the bigger issue.
That’s fair.
But just generally I don’t think a team should be able to win the 1st pick two years in a row. I’d think that for us too if we had gotten it. Rules are rules though and the actual lotto process itself is completely kosher.
Yes, it's the effort especially in contrast to Laine. While Laine has offensive instincts, I think Helenius is right there with him. He just lacks the elite shot to beat goalies as easily. Laine also produced in a very favourable environment. Helenius is doing way more of the heavy lifting playing 2C.
He isn't big but he is pretty strong already so bulking up could lend him the needed power to be strong offensively facing man coverage, if he gets the puck in motion he can make plays, but so can most players who make the NHL.
Making the WC roster would be a great feat for him. He improved from Liiga regular season to playoffs and I expect him to elevate the play further in WC. There's a caveat: it is exactly what Kakko did.
To me, Helenius could suprise and become a very good NHLer but where the Ducks are picking, there are better, more explosive and bigger, meaner options at forward.
And what happens when yo win the Slafkovsky pick and then are the worst team the next year for Bedard? Winning the lottery shouldn't ever feel bad.
I mean that’s their fault if they chose the wrong guy, there are other players who look better. Rules would be rules and they would’ve had a shot at Carlsson, Fantilli, Smith etc.
How do you even know Slafkovsky is the wrong guy? Okay, then take whoever you think it the best player from that draft, then lose out on Bedard. Feels bad bro.
Statistically speaking the worst team in the league is 3 times more likely NOT to win the lottery than to win it and it gets worse as you go down the rankings.
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