Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

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The Iginla hype train is going pretty strong haha. He looks good but not a top 5 pick probably top 10 if the right team (Montreal) takes him.

We just traded Drysdale for Gauthier because there wasnt anyone like him in this draft. That combined with the draft being stacked with big defenders means we are extremely likely to draft a D.
 

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Stylistically Yakemchuk is a glass slipper for the Ducks.
Big, physical, RHD, with a big shot.


The video didn't go into any real detail about it, but for those that have watched more of him, can someone explain why this guy takes so many penalties? The guy in the video just said it's because he is "aggressive," but that seems like a cop out answer. That is one of the concerns I have about him. Not just because we take so many penalties as is, but it could be a red flag when it comes to defensive IQ, effort, or skating ability.
 

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The video didn't go into any real detail about it, but for those that have watched more of him, can someone explain why this guy takes so many penalties? The guy in the video just said it's because he is "aggressive," but that seems like a cop out answer. That is one of the concerns I have about him. Not just because we take so many penalties as is, but it could be a red flag when it comes to defensive IQ, effort, or skating ability.

Well he had one particular incident where he received 20 minutes all at once (5 min check from behind, 5 mins fighting and the ten minute misconduct they seem to tack on when tossing a player out). Also another incident where he got 14 mins (4 mins roughing plus a ten).

Four ten minute misconducts and five fights, account for over half his minutes. A lot of other penalties from constantly being in the middle of scrums etc. Only leaves about ~30-40 mins in actually gameplay penalties across 66 games, nothing too concerning for a big physical Dman.
 

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The Iginla hype train is going pretty strong haha. He looks good but not a top 5 pick probably top 10 if the right team (Montreal) takes him.

We just traded Drysdale for Gauthier because there wasnt anyone like him in this draft. That combined with the draft being stacked with big defenders means we are extremely likely to draft a D.
Idk... iginla seems like a legit threat for a top 5 picks imo. And him being much younger than most of the guys in the top 20 is somewhat significant to me.

I dont really know who we should pick at this point... ill stick with Levshunov/Dickinson... but if we go forward, iginla very well could be the guy. If he was RH shot... id 100% be on board.
 

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If the Ducks take Iginla with Demidov still on the board I will be so disappointed. If they are going to go with a winger then take the one that has the potential to be the best player in the draft. Does anyone think Iginla could be the best player in this draft?
 

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If the Ducks take Iginla with Demidov still on the board I will be so disappointed. If they are going to go with a winger then take the one that has the potential to be the best player in the draft. Does anyone think Iginla could be the best player in this draft?
Yes, I do. And no, I wouldn't touch a Russian playing in Russia with a long contract with a ten foot pole right now.
 

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Parekh or Yakemchuk.. who would you pick?

I feel like both could be more dynamic than what Drysdale was initally hoped to be
I’d prob go yakemchuk based more on stylistic need, granted yakemchuk isn’t great defensively but he does bring physicality

Yes, I do. And no, I wouldn't touch a Russian playing in Russia with a long contract with a ten foot pole right now.
Isn’t his contract only 1 year left? Thought I read that somewhere
 

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If the Ducks take Iginla with Demidov still on the board I will be so disappointed. If they are going to go with a winger then take the one that has the potential to be the best player in the draft. Does anyone think Iginla could be the best player in this draft?

I don’t think he can be best player in the draft, but I do think he can be top 5 player in the draft.

I still not super convinced we’d pick a guy with a top 5 pick that’s currently in Russia.

I think tij brings a lot that PV will value in terms of team building and I do think he’s not afraid to pick a better fit over bpa.
 

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Yes, I do. And no, I wouldn't touch a Russian playing in Russia with a long contract with a ten foot pole right now.
He has 1 year left on his contract and has made it clear he is coming to NA as soon as his contract is up. Its the reason he is stuck in the MHL when he should be in the KHL. Its them squeezing him to sign longer.

This is a very different situation then Michkov. There are no reports to signal he would pull any shit.

I don’t think he can be best player in the draft, but I do think he can be top 5 player in the draft.

I still not super convinced we’d pick a guy with a top 5 pick that’s currently in Russia.

I think tij brings a lot that PV will value in terms of team building and I do think he’s not afraid to pick a better fit over bpa.
If thats the case then a RHD should 100% be the target.
 
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He has 1 year left on his contract and has made it clear he is coming to NA as soon as his contract is up. Its the reason he is stuck in the MHL when he should be in the KHL. Its them squeezing him to sign longer.

This is a very different situation then Michkov. There are no reports to signal he would pull any shit.


If thats the case then a RHD should 100% be the target.
Might not be up to him.
 

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He has 1 year left on his contract and has made it clear he is coming to NA as soon as his contract is up. Its the reason he is stuck in the MHL when he should be in the KHL. Its them squeezing him to sign longer.

This is a very different situation then Michkov. There are no reports to signal he would pull any shit.


If thats the case then a RHD should 100% be the target.
Well that’s the wagon I’ve been on from the start…. But if levshunov is gone it does get a bit awkward…

Do you reach for yakemchuk or parekh
Do you settle on Dickinson/buium and hope we’re fine with heavy lhd

Or do you take a forward you have higher than those guys(potentially catton, lindstrom, iginla, Demidov)
 

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Might not be up to him.
Minty is Russian and the Ducks had no issue drafting him. It’s all about how much they want to play in NA. I have no concerns about Demidov like I did with Michkov.

Well that’s the wagon I’ve been on from the start…. But if levshunov is gone it does get a bit awkward…

Do you reach for yakemchuk or parekh
Do you settle on Dickinson/buium and hope we’re fine with heavy lhd

Or do you take a forward you have higher than those guys(potentially catton, lindstrom, iginla, Demidov)
I think you take the BPA and trust the scouts.
 
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Minty is Russian and the Ducks had no issue drafting him. It’s all about how much they want to play in NA. I have no concerns about Demidov like I did with Michkov.


I think you take the BPA and trust the scouts.

Mintyukov was in North America already, completely different

Sure but maybe Demidov isn’t bpa for us due to those issues listed…. And again I think they’ll go by fit over bpa.

If they don’t think Demidov helps build a championship team they ain’t getting him, on top of the other factors people have listed already
 

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Mintyukov was in North America already, completely different

Sure but maybe Demidov isn’t bpa for us due to those issues listed…. And again I think they’ll go by fit over bpa.

If they don’t think Demidov helps build a championship team they ain’t getting him, on top of the other factors people have listed already
I 100% agree, which is why I said it’s all about how much they want to play in NA. A Russian who plays junior in NA obviously shouldn’t have any worry sorrounding them.

Just like a guy who says he has zero interest in signing another contract in Russia past his d+1 looks a lot better then a guy who is signed through d+2 and hasn’t said that, and is using Russia as a way to get on the team he wants. Like Michkov.

The only way drafting for need in the top 5 makes sense is if the group of guys available are so close that the fit is the tiebreaker.

Demidov is the clear #2 for me and I had no interest in drafting Michkov. Demidov is not Michkov and doesn’t carry any of the baggage with him that Michkov seemed to. He is just a good player that was born in Russia.
 

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I 100% agree, which is why I said it’s all about how much they want to play in NA. A Russian who plays junior in NA obviously shouldn’t have any worry sorrounding them.

Just like a guy who says he has zero interest in signing another contract in Russia past his d+1 looks a lot better then a guy who is signed through d+2 and hasn’t said that, and is using Russia as a way to get on the team he wants. Like Michkov.

The only way drafting for need in the top 5 makes sense is if the group of guys available are so close that the fit is the tiebreaker.

Demidov is the clear #2 for me and I had no interest in drafting Michkov. Demidov is not Michkov and doesn’t carry any of the baggage with him that Michkov seemed to. He is just a good player that was born in Russia.

maybe, if he’s that good and doesn’t have any sort of red flags then I doubt he’s there for our pick unless we end up 2 then.

I still feel more comfortable taking players that are already in North America over Russia. So I’d take levshunov/Dickinson and iginla over him personally. And I think iginla is a pretty good fit for us
 

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I 100% agree, which is why I said it’s all about how much they want to play in NA. A Russian who plays junior in NA obviously shouldn’t have any worry sorrounding them.

Just like a guy who says he has zero interest in signing another contract in Russia past his d+1 looks a lot better then a guy who is signed through d+2 and hasn’t said that, and is using Russia as a way to get on the team he wants. Like Michkov.

This doesn't make sense. Those Russians who left their homeland early left to avoid being caught in the Russian system. They're coming to NA as 16-year olds.

Once you're in the system, then Russia kinda owns you even if you think you're free when your contract ends. See the Ivan Fedotov situation. And then there's this...

 
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Minty is Russian and the Ducks had no issue drafting him. It’s all about how much they want to play in NA. I have no concerns about Demidov like I did with Michkov.


I think you take the BPA and trust the scouts.
Mintyukov was already in Canada and had a current US visa when he was drafted. It is definitely not ALL about how much they want to play outside of Russia.
 

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Mintyukov was already in Canada and had a current US visa when he was drafted. It is definitely not ALL about how much they want to play outside of Russia.
As I said before, Minty coming to NA for junior IS showing how much he wants to play in NA. We are saying the same thing. Obviously Minty was a better situation then Demidov, but Demidov is a better situation then Michkov.
 

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I think with Michkov, some of the difficulty actually came from the player himself. And perhaps he was part of what drove teams to look elsewhere.

Drafting Mintyukov means nothing in this context.

Demidov seems like he wants to come, but I imagine he also wants to honor his contract there and then there will be all kinds of obstacled, like military service, SKA treatment, even possibly a language or cultural barrier to overcome and get accustomed to. Don't quote me on that, as I haven't checked if he's fluent already. Anyway, he has a russia factor, but yes, it is less severe than Michkov's.
 

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This doesn't make sense. Those Russians who left their homeland early left to avoid being caught in the Russian system. They're coming to NA as 16-year olds.

Once you're in the system, then Russia kinda owns you even if you think you're free when your contract ends. See the Ivan Fedotov situation. And then there's this...


Yes, the biggest issues is the uncertainty. They can literally make shit up and poof there goes your chances of ever getting to see your #2 draft pick in NA. It is not very likely, but I wouldn't rule anything out when dealing with Russia.
 
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