Buium is such a Madden pick, but I just don’t see us taking him with Zell and Minty on the left.
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I really think he ends up the best D out of the draft, the IQ and poise is through the roof
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Just go BPA. If they pan out, then you can trade the "lesser" players/prospects.
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The recent OHL Coaches Poll resulted in some impressive accolades for draft eligible C Cole Beaudoin. Among all eastern conference skaters, the league's coaches ranked him as the hardest worker, best penalty killer and second best defensive forward. Needless to say, one wouldn't normally expect a 17 year old at the top of those lists.
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Sounds like a guy that could become a really dependable 3C if he can continue to improve his skating.
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A strong 2023-24 season could help find Barrie Colts forward Cole Beaudoin hearing his name called in the early rounds of the 2024 Draft.
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Sounds like a guy that could become a really dependable 3C if he can continue to improve his skating.
This happens every year, the forwards and centers start creeping up the rankings and now people are poking holes in the defensemen's plays.
I said it before, despite seeing multiple changes in rankings, hopefully the Ducks go forward with both their picks. Demidov, Lindstrom or Catton at Ducks 1st. None really scream Ducks apart from maybe Lindstrom. The Ducks could be open to trading down and adding an early second to go along with a 1st early in the teens. There are forwards with attributes the Ducks like aplenty.
And around 25th OA whoever is left, with size and skill, someone obvious: Chernyshov, Sennecke, Boisvert, Parascak? Or another reach for size, grit and character, maybe Masse(skating issue?) or Beaudoin (smart, big, hello?).
I said it before, despite seeing multiple changes in rankings, hopefully the Ducks go forward with both their picks. Demidov, Lindstrom or Catton at Ducks 1st. None really scream Ducks apart from maybe Lindstrom. The Ducks could be open to trading down and adding an early second to go along with a 1st early in the teens. There are forwards with attributes the Ducks like aplenty.
And around 25th OA whoever is left, with size and skill, someone obvious: Chernyshov, Sennecke, Boisvert, Parascak? Or another reach for size, grit and character, maybe Masse(skating issue?) or Beaudoin (smart, big, hello?).
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Honestly my heart - if we do not pick #1 - would say Demidov. Catton might be a little bit too small, not just in height. Both I would take before Lindstrom.
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I'm all for Lindstrom if they are confident that his injury problems won't be a repetitive issue moving forward. He was recently out of the lineup again but luckily didn't miss time. Back issues can really derail a career.
Otherwise yeah, you have a 6'4 behemoth who can move, make plays and has a legit mean streak. He could become an absolute beast
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with that description and him being 6'2 201lbs I'd be surprised if we didn't pick him with our 2nd firstThe recent OHL Coaches Poll resulted in some impressive accolades for draft eligible C Cole Beaudoin. Among all eastern conference skaters, the league's coaches ranked him as the hardest worker, best penalty killer and second best defensive forward. Needless to say, one wouldn't normally expect a 17 year old at the top of those lists.
Cole Beaudoin - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Cole Beaudoin, 2006-04-24 Kanata, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the OHL with Barrie Colts. Complete player biography and stats.
Cole Beaudoin - 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More
A strong 2023-24 season could help find Barrie Colts forward Cole Beaudoin hearing his name called in the early rounds of the 2024 Draft.
Sounds like a guy that could become a really dependable 3C if he can continue to improve his skating.
Yeah, I'm actually not at all sold on Lindstrom but he has a very rare combination and I could see the Ducks having interest.
He would be a good prospect to add right around there. It's also what the Ducks need frankly.
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Lindstroms's team has been eliminated, should see both him and young phenom Gavin McKenna at the world u18s.
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Idk why but lindstrom doesn’t appeal to me much
Right now if we go dmen I want
Levshunov Dickinson or biuim
If we go forward I like
Iginla, catton or Demidov
If we drop to 5, I think iginla could be a very real possibility…. He’s very young player, that’s been a fast riser…. And still has a ton of potential
Right now if we go dmen I want
Levshunov Dickinson or biuim
If we go forward I like
Iginla, catton or Demidov
If we drop to 5, I think iginla could be a very real possibility…. He’s very young player, that’s been a fast riser…. And still has a ton of potential
Pretty much sums it up at this point in advance of the U18's. I like Lindstrom more than you do and feel that w/o the injury he'd be a shoo-in top 5 pick. I'm liking the D available less and less especially if the Ducks pick 2nd or 3rd.
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I feel like our biggest need is a dmen, so I tend to prob overate them based on fit.
Where forward I don’t see as a big need(they type of forward we need can be found in fa/trade)
The way the draft is looking, If we don’t win lottery I’d almost prefer going with a younger guy that maybe underrated but has more room to grow/potential. Outside of celebrini, I think iginla is younger than the rest of the projected top 10 by at least 6 months…. I feel that’s pretty significant at that age
Just double checked, Dickinson I’d pretty young too
I don't disagree on the D but just don't think any of them are really going to be 1st pairing guys. Definitely not BPA at 2OA or 3OA IMO.
Iginla is going to be this year's Gauthier jumping up the rankings. Seems like a guy PV would love to have.
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I agree…. I mean hopefully we just win the lottery and take those decisions off the table
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I agree with the two points: defensive d-men is a priority, but forwards are a luxury. Of course, winning the lottery explicitly means drafting C Celebrini b/c he BPA above all.
With Lev, I'm also very high on him. He was an OFD in Belarus because everyone online is citing that league doesn't know anything about playing defense. His first year on NA ice in the USHL, he was a 6th in team scoring with 42 points and last in +/- with a worst -15 rating. Then, his second year on NA ice is being a rookie in the NCAA, which is a huge jump in talent level, competition, and older players. All Lev did as a rookie was lead his team in scoring in the regular season with 35 pts (which EP doesn't do splits for reg vs playoffs b/c there's two playoffs, conference playoffs and NCAA tourney) and in +/- with +27 (iirc). We can identify the significant jump in+/- between the USHL and NCAA as proof that Lev is developing that defense. This is a true freshman leading his team in scoring and defense at the NCAA!
Lev still needs more development defensively, but his offense in the Ozone is highly advanced. He needs more reps and in college, the usual output of games is around 35-38 games. Whereas in the CHL, they'll play 68 games and then the playoffs, if their team qualifies.
If we do draft Lev, then it's imperative that Lev stays at Michigan state for another season! Let him continue to learn good habits there than the non-existent ones in the Ducks org at the AHL or NHL levels.
If RD Lev isn't there, then LD Dickinson. We need top-4 defensive D-men (DFDs). I'd keep Dickinson as a LD and put an OFD to play RD with him. We have a few LD's that have played RD exclusively in college or CHL in LaCombe, Zell, and Hinds.
Potential Future D pairings if Dickinson is drafted
Minty-LaCombe
Dickinson-Luneau
Hinds-Zell (or vice versa)
As for offensive forward after Celebrini, I really like Lindstrom! I didn't know Lindstrom didn't play center until he went to the WHL.
Both Lev and Lindstrom have high floors and their ceilings are higher because of their tools as well as physical makeup. Because Lindstrom was injured for half the regular season, his stock dropped because we couldn't see how much more develop he could be.
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Oh ya lev needs another year at Michigan state, and prob a decent amount of time in the ahl
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It depends on his development jump in his sophomore year. He did a great job working to improve between his USHL and NCAA. If he takes another huge dev step between year 1 and year 2 in the NCAA, then he could make that jump to the NHL.
But yeah, any team that drafts him, I hope they let him stay in the NCAA for another year since the coaching staff did help him improve that much.
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I'm on board the Iginla train. If he can improve on his deficiencies just the average amount a top-10 player usually does, I assume he will become the second-best or even best forward of his Draft class. Wouldn't mind having someone with his name and bloodline on the team for PR reasons and actual coverage as well.
Iginla has gathered eyes and everyone has come out with same opinions, that he is very much improved. He does seem like a very good bet to succeed and actually looks a lot like his father with less physicality but intense and engaged, traits which could have him captain a team.
I still like the potential of Lindstrom and Demidov more because I feel they could both turn into players that control the game more than I think Iginla ever will. But Iginla's goal scoring could give him the edge. They all could play an above average defensive game, and I couldn't say who will end up best, they all look good.
That said I think I would go Demidov, Iginla, Lindstrom before Catton but it's a close group. The Ducks I think have Iginla after Celebrini, before Lindstrom and Demidov.
I still like the potential of Lindstrom and Demidov more because I feel they could both turn into players that control the game more than I think Iginla ever will. But Iginla's goal scoring could give him the edge. They all could play an above average defensive game, and I couldn't say who will end up best, they all look good.
That said I think I would go Demidov, Iginla, Lindstrom before Catton but it's a close group. The Ducks I think have Iginla after Celebrini, before Lindstrom and Demidov.
Taking Iginla top 5 seems like such a mistake.
I think he is only top 10 in 1 list, EP, and everwhere else he is in that 10-18 group.
If the Ducks take him before Demidov, Lindstrom, Helenius, or Catton I will be shocked.
Give me Demidov all day if he is available at 5 and we are looking forward.
I think he is only top 10 in 1 list, EP, and everwhere else he is in that 10-18 group.
If the Ducks take him before Demidov, Lindstrom, Helenius, or Catton I will be shocked.
Give me Demidov all day if he is available at 5 and we are looking forward.
If you are basing this opinion on just rankings, I would point out that the rankings aren't final. Iginla is the late riser and will see rise once again if the others' question marks remain:
Lindstrom is having injury issues so do they persist, Demidov is in Russia and in a tough situation with KHL/MHL. It's not out of question and certainly not indefensible to have Iginla first. Still, he is a winger and will not go before equal centers and defensemen, so he needs to woo teams.
Helenius over Iginla? I don't think so. A team would really have to want a center over winger then, and he does not project to be a very dominant center either.
Catton and Iginla are both NHL wingers, and while Catton is more dynamic, I don't think he will be valued more highly than Iginla with a more robust game come draft.
Please explain to me how Catton has a less robust game? He scored like 40% more then Iginla while still playing a good 2-way game.
It isn't like Iginla is 6'3 with a mean streak.
Watching Catton vs PG was very easy to spot how light he was. I also thought he was just average defensively. Sure, he was up against the most high powered line in chl.
Catton is a dynamic offensive threat, no one is denying thag. First, to succeed at puck recoveries in the NHL he would need to play like Iginla already does: play under players or play so well off the puck. But he is not a special skater. Between the two of them, Catton plays like a junior scorer with some pro projectability and things he needs to change, Iginla plays like a player with a mostly projectable game. That is essentially what I mean by robustness: a more pro proof game. Literally Iginla is more in your face, constantly engaged and more likely to impact even if he remains off scoresheet.
If Berkly projects something like Benson or Cooley, and Iginla becomes like his father, who would you rather have? A worse Benson or Cooley might not stick in the NHL, but a worse Iginla would play NHL games.
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