Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

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Unless two teams jump us in the lottery this year, we'll probably get a top 5 pick again. There are some good players in that range. After Celebrini I think Silayev is probably the most intriguing prospect for me. Also interested to see where Eiserman gets drafted, could be one of those picks that falls a bit but proves everyone wrong like Caufield.
 
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Lindstrom is gonna be interesting to me. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets picked top 3 and rushed to the NHL and busts.
I have little interest in him in the top 5. I would not want to pick a guy that high where his worst attribute is his hockey sense.

Unless two teams jump us in the lottery this year, we'll probably get a top 5 pick again. There are some good players in that range. After Celebrini I think Silayev is probably the most intriguing prospect for me. Also interested to see where Eiserman gets drafted, could be one of those picks that falls a bit but proves everyone wrong like Caufield.
So using last 5 years numbers (I took the PPG and extrapolated a full season for the 2 shortened seasons) here is the pace they will have to finish the season to finish in each of the top 10 picks:
PickPace
1​
52​
2​
68​
3​
72​
4​
75​
5​
80​
6​
85​
7​
89​
8​
92​
9​
94​
10​
98​


The Ducks current pace is 59 points. Unless they have an incredible turn around, I think it is safe to say a top 5 pick is all but guaranteed. Not to mention they are going to get worse when Henrique and Bush (and whoever else) gets moved at the deadline.
 
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Dream scenario:

1st - Ducks -> Celebrini
2nd - Sharts -> Lindstrom
3rd - Hawks -> Silayev

Current likely scenario:

1st - Sharts -> Celebrini
2nd - Hawks -> Lindstrom
3rd - Ducks -> Silayev/Dickinson

I prefer we get a forward first because there are a ton of interesting Dmen with size in this draft that we can get with our later picks.
 

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Lindstrom is gonna be interesting to me. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets picked top 3 and rushed to the NHL and busts.
I have little interest in him in the top 5. I would not want to pick a guy that high where his worst attribute is his hockey sense.


So using last 5 years numbers (I took the PPG and extrapolated a full season for the 2 shortened seasons) here is the pace they will have to finish the season to finish in each of the top 10 picks:
PickPace
1​
52​
2​
68​
3​
72​
4​
75​
5​
80​
6​
85​
7​
89​
8​
92​
9​
94​
10​
98​


The Ducks current pace is 59 points. Unless they have an incredible turn around, I think it is safe to say a top 5 pick is all but guaranteed. Not to mention they are going to get worse when Henrique and Bush (and whoever else) gets moved at the deadline.
Wow, that's a huge difference between the 1st and 2nd overall pick (or rather worst and 2nd worst team). That's basically the difference between 2 and 6.

I think the Ducks will go on a bit of a run later in the season (IF they are healthy), I think the kids will start putting it together along with some teams taking their foot off the gas toward the end (and I think we've played most of our games against a lot of the top teams). I think they'll finish with more than their 59 point pace, but not by enough to drop them out of the top 5 (pre lottery). Then they'll drop a spot after the lottery since that happens every time they pick in single digits. I think my prediction before the season was in the 7-10 range after the lottery, with all the injuries and how the season is gone, I think it'll be more in the 5-7 range after the lottery. I think we catch the BJ's and maybe one surprise team (it would be embarrassing for them if it was Buffalo).
 

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celebrini has the bay area connection, so i expect SJ will pick #1 and he'll end up there. what better way to pump some life back into the sharks

i'm expecting to draft either 4 or 5
 

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Lindstrom is gonna be interesting to me. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets picked top 3 and rushed to the NHL and busts.
I have little interest in him in the top 5. I would not want to pick a guy that high where his worst attribute is his hockey sense.

If Lindstrom isn't rushed, then I think he might develop well.

Hockeywiz777scouting denotes the concern about Hockey Sense and IQ, but still projects him to be like Pierre-Luc Dubois - power forward, two-way center that goes to the front of the net. Probably a middle-6 center.

Then we get to McKeen's Hockey scouting report on Lindstrom:
Remarkably, Lindstrom wasn't selected in his WHL bantam draft until the 3rd round, 54th overall. He is a late bloomer whose stock is skyrocketing, and that makes him one of the biggest wildcards of the 2024 draft. On one hand, he's not as polished as other top prospects are, showcasing some hiccups with his awareness and decision-making. On the other hand, however, he looks like a prospect who is still far from being done developing. Just how much more is his game going to grow in the coming years?

Most of the scouting are published in Nov 2023. That is only two months of play. What I want to know from these scouts is did they see improvement from last year's scouting report to the past two months. Remember the whole McTavish scouting fiasco where most of the scouting media were using his D-1 season than looking at his D+0 season, though it was a small sample. And as talented as Mac was, he was returned to juniors after his 9-game NHL stint. We should view Lindstrom as a late bloomer and still needs developing. That's why there isn't a consensus of where Lindstrom should be in the top-10 aside that he's in the top-10 today.

  • THN's Future Watch 2023 edition, projected 2024 top-10
    • 1. C Celebrini
    • 2. LW Eiserman
    • 3. D Kiviharju
    • 4. D Dickinson
    • 5. C Catton
    • 6. D Levshunov
    • 7. D Mews
    • 8. C Boisvert
    • 9. D Parekh
    • 10. RW Humphries

      Only five to those projected last year are still in the top-10 of most mock drafts.

Should the Ducks draft Lindstrom, it isn't for him to play center, which does require a lot of hockey sense. We have three top-6 centers already in Mac, Carlsson, and Zegras. Lindstrom playing LW as a high-end skating PF with soft hands who can score is enticing.
 

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Wow, that's a huge difference between the 1st and 2nd overall pick (or rather worst and 2nd worst team). That's basically the difference between 2 and 6.

I think the Ducks will go on a bit of a run later in the season (IF they are healthy), I think the kids will start putting it together along with some teams taking their foot off the gas toward the end (and I think we've played most of our games against a lot of the top teams). I think they'll finish with more than their 59 point pace, but not by enough to drop them out of the top 5 (pre lottery). Then they'll drop a spot after the lottery since that happens every time they pick in single digits. I think my prediction before the season was in the 7-10 range after the lottery, with all the injuries and how the season is gone, I think it'll be more in the 5-7 range after the lottery. I think we catch the BJ's and maybe one surprise team (it would be embarrassing for them if it was Buffalo).
It's effected a lot by the Red Wings in 19-20. They had a 45 point pace and 2nd place had a 72 point pace. The average is like 58 points if you remove that year.
 

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This is a huge reach. Sidorov has an apparent skating issue, and Hvidston/Nesterenko are players with limited upside

I think it's bit early to tell on Hvidston and Nesterenko, but I think they can fit that third line in a defensive role who can counter with some offense. Do we make fun of the Robby Nieds-Pahlsson-Moen line? Let's just wait and watch them develop a bit longer.
 

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Obviously it's not a given that we take a RHD with our 1st round pick in 2024, but it's certainly more likely than it was a couple hours ago. Here are a few options:

Artyom Levshunov - Freshman at Michigan State
Adam Jiricek - Playing in top Czech league (out for season after injury at WJC)
Zayne Parekh - Playing for Saginaw in OHL with Dionicio

And some other guys who will be probably picked later in the 1st:

Henry Mews - Playing for Ottawa in OHL (played with Mintyukov last year)
Carter Yakemchuk - Playing for Calgary in WHL
 

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Obviously it's not a given that we take a RHD with our 1st round pick in 2024, but it's certainly more likely than it was a couple hours ago. Here are a few options:

Artyom Levshunov - Freshman at Michigan State
Adam Jiricek - Playing in top Czech league (out for season after injury at WJC)
Zayne Parekh - Playing for Saginaw in OHL with Dionicio

And some other guys who will be probably picked later in the 1st:

Henry Mews - Playing for Ottawa in OHL (played with Mintyukov last year)
Carter Yakemchuk - Playing for Calgary in WHL
Mintyukov/Levshunov
Zellweger/Luneau
LaCombe/Warren

Zellweger being the only small man in the group.
 
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Obviously it's not a given that we take a RHD with our 1st round pick in 2024, but it's certainly more likely than it was a couple hours ago. Here are a few options:

Artyom Levshunov - Freshman at Michigan State
Adam Jiricek - Playing in top Czech league (out for season after injury at WJC)
Zayne Parekh - Playing for Saginaw in OHL with Dionicio

And some other guys who will be probably picked later in the 1st:

Henry Mews - Playing for Ottawa in OHL (played with Mintyukov last year)
Carter Yakemchuk - Playing for Calgary in WHL
Its got to be Levshunov, he would be a great pair with Mintyukov.

Celebrini would be amazing and lock in our top 6.

Celebrini Carlsson Terry
Gauthier McTavish Zegras
 

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Traditional shutdown RD's that are fringe 1st rounders/ early 2nd rounders. I'm liking Emery a lot!

6'3 EJ Emery (US NTDP ... committed to NCAA North Dakota)
6'3 Charlie Elick (WHL - Brandon Wheat Kings)
 

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I like Dickinson. Surprised not to hear his name more in this thread.

Mintyukov-Dickinson
LaCombe-Luneau
Zellweger-Gudas

Levushanov obviously a great choice as well

Trade a D, to draft a new one!
Who btw will be NHL ready in 2-3 years time.

Btw Luneau has knee infection, I hope he is not also gone next year.
The guy that we draft will be NHL ready way sooner than 2-3 years it would appear
 

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A player like Levshunov or Dickinson can likely be ready as soon as next year, likely gets one more year of development though. Silayev likely takes a few years. I like Dickinson but would prefer RD Levshunov, they seem to have very similar profile but it seems potentially to be the case that Levshunov has higher upside.
 

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If we end up picking no2, and lets say Eiserman, Lindstrom had great season, would you pick Dickinson, Silayev over them?

I think Lindstrom will be a winger in the NHL, I don't see an NHL caliber center with the vision and decision making ive seen. Eiserman is too risky, im not sure he'll be able to play a power forward game, he make more sense if not for Gauthier. I'd pick Levshunov over them all.
 

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Ignoring Celebrini, Lindstrom and Levshunov would be next on my wishlist. Followed by Dickinson, Eiserman and Silayev.
 
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