Can we start the tank thread now 
Levshunov is just a perfect fit. a Complete 2-way RH defensemen.
Levshunov is just a perfect fit. a Complete 2-way RH defensemen.
Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)
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Dunno if this Lev article was shared when it was published on Dec 6th from the Athletic, but here it is:
Inside Artyom Levshunov's journey from Belarus to the top of the 2024 NHL Draft
Physically determined, but still needs refinement and lots of potential. I like it!
Inside Artyom Levshunov's journey from Belarus to the top of the 2024 NHL Draft
Physically determined, but still needs refinement and lots of potential. I like it!
Dickinson is a lefty and I'm not sure if he is playing the right side in London. There is a lot to like about him though.
Anyone the Ducks draft outside of Celebrini will need at least another year of development. Levshanov is closer to NHL ready and probably needs one more year either in college or the AHL; Dickinson almost certainly will need two more years of junior and at least a 1/2 year in the AHL.
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I think Levshunov and maybe Dickinson could play in the NHL next year but would likely be better served returning to their current team or (situationally) playing in the A.
I agree. Levshunov could go to the A but Dickinson can only play in junior or the NHL for the next 2 years. I'd hate for the Ducks to rush him to the NHL like they did with Drysdale.
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From reading the Athletic article, Lev is physically buff. I dunno if that's buff enough for the NHL to sustain playing physical all 82 NHL games. It's passable, but I feel like Lev's got a lot more fundamentals to work on and staying in the NCAA is a good place to be for another season or two. I do like how the NCAA develop defensemen than juniors on the whole. Part of it is due to their strengthening program built into their schedule and part of it is due to the level of competition is better b/c the age range is from 17 to 24 years old.
As for Drysdale, I don't know if he was rushed to the NHL. The OHL was shutdown for 18-year old Drysdale during the COVID season and was allowed to play at the AHL level. There, he won AHL rookie of the month the first month of the season as an 18-year old. Jamie put up 10 pts in 14 AHL games. Then on his 24-NHL game stint, he looked decent to at the start of that set. Drysdale proved he was too good for the AHL. His D+2 season, he played 81 games (out of 82 games) as a top pairing RD. He wasn't sheltered at all, but Drysdale did last the whole season physically. It's because of that D+2 season that Drysdale was able to still play and improve his game despite losing his D+3 season to injury as well as the early part of his D+4 season.
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I like levshunov and yakemchuk most
interested to see how far jiricek will fall(he’s already started falling a bit in some mock drafts).
I don’t think parekh is the right dmen for us, but he’s having a crazy season right now, mews seems to have dropped a bit from last season predictions.
EJ emery is another guy I have an eye on(prob projected around our 2nd round pick).
6’3 athletic right handed , physical defensive defensemen, skates well…. Biggest issue is his offense is somewhat limited. Similar to helleson Warren and hinds, but I feel like you can never have too many of those guys
this draft seems very defensemen heavy , which makes the drysdale trade make more sense…. I wouldn’t be shocked if we end up with 3 dmen in our first 4 picks
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Not suggesting he's necessarily ready but Dickinson would at least be a lot more physically ready than Drysdale was. 6'3 and will be 200lbs+ by the time next season rolls around.
Very true...he is definitely more physically ready for the NHL than Drysdale was (not a high bar BTW!). I'm more worried about killing his confidence by throwing him into a situation he isn't ready for (that applies to any player the Ducks draft).
Things will start to come into better focus (as they always do) after the U18 tournament. Right now, this draft is shaping up to be solid but not spectacular after Celebrini. I think there is similar value for picks 2-7 which is where the Ducks are likely to be picking. If I were picking 2nd today I'd be very tempted to take Lindstrom but after that Lev and Dickinson are probably my picks. Catton is a candidate to crack the top 5 (probably not a PV type player though) and Buium is my darkhorse candidate to be a top 5 pick come draft day.
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Ya buium stock def on the rise, idk if he’ll reach top 5, but I think a lot of teams are going to do some heavy thinking on him.
Lindstrom def seems like a guy madden and pv for that matter will be very high on, where catton seems like a guy we would avoid, and prob a top 5 talent but will fall down a bit like benson
Ducks are currently holding the 4th pre-lottery pick, but Ottawa (3rd pick) has 4 games in hand and only 1 point back, so we're essentially going to be at the 3rd pick. Next up with the 5th is Columbus. we have 2 games in hand but back 6 points. Buffalo is up 9 points and we have 1 game in hand. I think we could realistically (at best) pass one of Sens or BJ's if we get healthy and go on a little win streak. That would leave us the 4th pick pre-lottery at worst and most likely the 3rd pick. After the lottery, that would put us at the #4/5 pick. I think there have been 4 players (Celebrini, Lindstrom, Dickinson, Levshunov) talked about? So a good possibility one of them is available at that spot.
On a side note, how good of a prospect is Celebrini supposed to be? I know not Bedard level, but is he Carlsson/Fantilli tier?
On a side note, how good of a prospect is Celebrini supposed to be? I know not Bedard level, but is he Carlsson/Fantilli tier?
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Celebrini is around the Fantilli hype, but it's kinda difficult to judge b/c Celebrinini is a year and four months younger than Fantilli. Celebrini is a Jun 2006 birth while Fantilli is an Oct 2004 birth. The draft cutoff is like the 2nd week of September. What Celebrini is doing at his age on the college scene is impressive.
Currently, Celebrini leads his team in scoring and is tied for 5th in overall scoring for the NCAA. He also lead WJC-20 team Canada in scoring.
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Hoping for a top-3 pick.
Interesting though. Do you swing for the fences and grab another forward in that mix? Hoping we can grab another first and maybe take a swing on Kiviharju.
Interesting though. Do you swing for the fences and grab another forward in that mix? Hoping we can grab another first and maybe take a swing on Kiviharju.
Button put out his list for January.
7 defensemen in the top 12.
14 in the 1st round.
Another 11 in the 2nd round.
10 of those 25 are RHD
This year is just stacked with defensemen.
For reference only 8 defensemen were taking in the 1st last year, and only 2 top 10.
7 defensemen in the top 12.
14 in the 1st round.
Another 11 in the 2nd round.
10 of those 25 are RHD
This year is just stacked with defensemen.
For reference only 8 defensemen were taking in the 1st last year, and only 2 top 10.
I actually feel the opposite. The Ducks are pretty consistent with the qualities they target. For forwards they go for high IQ guys. I can't see them taking a forward where his biggest weakness is hockey IQ.
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Ironically, they just acquired a forward who’s main fault according to some is a low hockey IQ. Fantilli was accused of the same and I’ve seen no evidence of that in his play this year. I think the term is being over used far too much.
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It seems that is overused on players who are very fast. The faster you are the shorter time you have to make decisions and suppose that average to good hockey sense can come across as poor hockey sense if they are playing too fast. Improving on when to use their speed will make them seem like their hockey sense improved.
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Yeah there's not a long list of "true freshmen" who have done what Celebrini is currently doing. He has the second best points per game (1.69) in the NCAA, crazy considering how many guys at that level are 5-7 years older, or others that are early picks who are still 1-3 years older. All at an age where he's supposed to be still in his final year of high school.
After last year and all the injuries this year, we deserve the 1st overall. We'll drop a spot again.
We’re definitely getting it this year because it’s not a generational player
#1 overall picks are definitely on the bell curve.
Like 5% busts, 10% good but not franchise players, 70% guys you can build a franchise around, 10% that will be top 10 players in the league, and 5% that are generational players.
As long as its in one of those last 3 categories then I would be ecstatic with the 1st overall. Celebrini is definitely firmly in the middle of the bell curve.
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I'd like Celebrini but would still be very happy with the D. I think I would take Levshunov even at 2 in all honesty. Not a super big fan of taking Eiserman particularly now that we have Cutter
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