Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

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Interesting.

Assuming Geekie and Lamoureux turn pro after this season, we could see Yakemchuk (if drafted) and Simashev and But the season after.
When’s the last time any team had a prospect with this amount of size? These kids aren’t just big…they’re monsters!
 

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And I feel like we’re gonna draft Silayev, Yakemchuk, Lindstrom, or Latourneau. It just seems like it’s destiny. Hahaha.

Though I hope it’s Celebrini.
Is it me or does it feel like their are more guys on your list that you think fit our mix than last year?
 
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In the last three drafts, there were a total of 28 Russian and Belarusian players selected in the top 100 picks. The Coyotes have drafted 5 of these players, despite being just one of 32 NHL teams. This indicates that the Coyotes have a significantly higher selection rate for Russian and Belarusian players compared to the league average. In terms of percentages, the Coyotes represent 3.125% of NHL teams, and if selections were evenly distributed, they would be expected to draft approximately 1 player from these regions in the top 100 picks. However, they've actually drafted 5 players, which is 17.86% of the total, exceeding the expected rate by 5.7 times.

Looking back at the three years PRIOR to Armstrong joining Arizona, there were 1/3 more Russian and Belarusian players selected in the top 100 compared to the last three drafts. It's generally agreed that geopolitical events like the Ukrainian invasion and COVID restrictions have influenced the availability of these players in the draft. This may create a surplus effect, giving the Coyotes a competitive advantage in selecting players further down in the draft. Effectively, creating a "pick-of-the-litter" situation. Given how these events have impacted the draft landscape, the Coyotes appear to be capitalizing on unique market conditions.

This wouldn't be the first time they've done something like this, of course. The lost revenue due to COVID restrictions caused a flat-cap era in the NHL and Arizona took full advantage. Stockpiling picks in exchange for taking on bad contracts, dead cap space, and LTIR. Now, they have used this surplus of picks to focus on underrepresented Russian and Belarusian prospects due to pandemic restrictions and the Ukraine invasion. In total, the Coyotes had 9 "extra" picks in the top 100 over the last three drafts and selected 4-5 "extra" Russian and Belarusian players, constituting approximately half of the surplus.

This strategic alignment allowed them to execute their plan effectively, resulting in a double benefit. The one strategy of stockpiling picks during the flat-cap, has essentially allowed Arizona to target Russian and Belarussian players who have slipped further in the draft than they otherwise might have. This is compounding value for the Coyotes. A perfect dovetail for Bill Armstrong.
 

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So it would make sense that we would continue to target underrated Russians.

Yakemchuk has flaws, too. I can’t lie but they’re things I think getting off of an awful Calgary squad and getting some better coaching and development can really help.

Ritchie I really like, but I think he’s probably a winger. I love Chernyshov too, but again, he’s a winger. I just don’t know if we can do another winger in the first round.

1. Guenther (w)
2. Doan (w)
3. Fedotov (w)
4. Moser
5. Cooley
6. Geekie
7. Lamoureux
8. Duda
9. Lutz (w)
10. Matikka (w)
11. Langlois
12. Simashev
13. But (w)
14. Hrabal
15. Castagna
16. Nordh (w)
17. Ludtke
18. Moroz (w)

^ about 45% of BA’s picks made within the top 100 of the draft have been wingers. And you have to think a good amount of forwards drafted as centers ultimately become wingers.
And we probably don’t want to draft too many wingers.

And given that only one of those 18 players is sub-six-foot, we probably should look for that trend of taller players to continue.

If you can identify +6ft Russian Centers and Defensemen in our range, that might otherwise go earlier, theoretically those are the guys most likely to be on our radar.

With our 1st, the name that makes the most sense is Anton Silayev. A couple of other names to keep in mind for our 2nd rounders are Yegor Surin and Arsen Taimazov.
 

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I could see us trading up to pick Silayev in the top ten. I don't think we'll be bad enough to pick him without trading up.

We have Washington's 2nd and they're off to a rough start this season. We also have Florida's 2nd and they're sub 500 too.

Does Silayev play on the right side normally? I know he's a left shot.
 

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In the last three drafts, there were a total of 28 Russian and Belarusian players selected in the top 100 picks. The Coyotes have drafted 5 of these players, despite being just one of 32 NHL teams. This indicates that the Coyotes have a significantly higher selection rate for Russian and Belarusian players compared to the league average. In terms of percentages, the Coyotes represent 3.125% of NHL teams, and if selections were evenly distributed, they would be expected to draft approximately 1 player from these regions in the top 100 picks. However, they've actually drafted 5 players, which is 17.86% of the total, exceeding the expected rate by 5.7 times.

Looking back at the three years PRIOR to Armstrong joining Arizona, there were 1/3 more Russian and Belarusian players selected in the top 100 compared to the last three drafts. It's generally agreed that geopolitical events like the Ukrainian invasion and COVID restrictions have influenced the availability of these players in the draft. This may create a surplus effect, giving the Coyotes a competitive advantage in selecting players further down in the draft. Effectively, creating a "pick-of-the-litter" situation. Given how these events have impacted the draft landscape, the Coyotes appear to be capitalizing on unique market conditions.

This wouldn't be the first time they've done something like this, of course. The lost revenue due to COVID restrictions caused a flat-cap era in the NHL and Arizona took full advantage. Stockpiling picks in exchange for taking on bad contracts, dead cap space, and LTIR. Now, they have used this surplus of picks to focus on underrepresented Russian and Belarusian prospects due to pandemic restrictions and the Ukraine invasion. In total, the Coyotes had 9 "extra" picks in the top 100 over the last three drafts and selected 4-5 "extra" Russian and Belarusian players, constituting approximately half of the surplus.

This strategic alignment allowed them to execute their plan effectively, resulting in a double benefit. The one strategy of stockpiling picks during the flat-cap, has essentially allowed Arizona to target Russian and Belarussian players who have slipped further in the draft than they otherwise might have. This is compounding value for the Coyotes. A perfect dovetail for Bill Armstrong.
My question is why aren't other teams spending the time and money looking at and drafting Russians? Is the circumstances worse than they seem? Do they consider the risk higher than the reward?
 

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I could see us trading up to pick Silayev in the top ten. I don't think we'll be bad enough to pick him without trading up.

We have Washington's 2nd and they're off to a rough start this season. We also have Florida's 2nd and they're sub 500 too.

Does Silayev play on the right side normally? I know he's a left shot.
Silayev’s production has fallen off a cliff after a hot start. We’ll see how things level out over the course of the season. Yes, he plays RD but shoots left.
 

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My question is why aren't other teams spending the time and money looking at and drafting Russians? Is the circumstances worse than they seem? Do they consider the risk higher than the reward?
For some teams, it may be political. There may be some that agree with the IIHF ban on Russians, etc.

Or as @Grimes has said, we must really trust our Russian scouts. Perhaps other teams don’t have that same level of faith in the personnel they have in Russia. Maybe they weren’t as well set-up there prior to the lockdowns and the invasion.

Or maybe we’re gambling because we’ve got a bunch of extra picks we got for free anyhow. The “Playing with House Money” approach.

I think when you can never seem to win a lottery you have to get creative and you have to be aggressive. If you see a potential advantage in the market you have to exploit it, and you can’t dawdle or go half in. Look at what BA was able to do with the flat cap versus the piss poor results Chicago got attempting to do the same. The lottery is the equalizer though. Chicago won. We didn’t.

So how do we weaponize the pick volume we have? Maybe the answer is Russians. I also really like that we invested a 2nd into McBain and another 2nd into Durzi. Meanwhile other teams are tradings 1sts for 30 year old rentals. It’s another way to make sure we’re getting the most out of this pick volume and also spreading around the the development pool/track. We need assets of differing ages, in differing stages, playing in different leagues and regions.

The Doan, Fedotov, Moser 2nd round a few years back is the perfect example. Moser was a double overager in the draft and was NHL ready immediately. Doan was a single year overage and is already in the AHL now. Fedotov has a longer term contract in the KHL and won’t be over for a few years. Still a great asset. I think that management is doing a great job staggering these assets so they come in manageable waves. Cooley is already here. Geekie and Lamoureux will take time. Like that.
 
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^ my point in saying all that is the Boston Bruins don’t have to worry about how to manage their prospect volume. They don’t have to worry about contract limits and roster spots in the NHL and AHL for their most prized picks. They don’t need to worry about being flooded too soon by too many great young players.

They have less of a reason to invest in Russians as a result.
 

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Silayev’s production has fallen off a cliff after a hot start.
If he had kept that hot pace he would've been a clear 1st overall pick. Probably generational category.

He seems to be a clear top 10 now that we're seeing him outside of that hot streak.
 

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If he had kept that hot pace he would've been a clear 1st overall pick. Probably generational category.

He seems to be a clear top 10 now that we're seeing him outside of that hot streak.
I haven’t seen him this season. I did watch his playoffs last season. Impressive. But he’s a roller coaster. Or was. Raw.

I saw a kid who was not as mobile as Simashev, and no where near as pretty on his skates. But seemed to have better offensive tools. And was similar in terms of excellent defensive and physical potential.
 

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If we somehow get a late 1st, I hope we look at Yegor Surin. He’s an absolute wildman out there. In every sense of the word. Imagine a guy who’s half Max Domi and half Trevor Zegras.
I’ve honestly been trying to find a comp that felt right to me for Surin since July. I was thinking maybe Duclair mixed with Domi. That risk taking gambler on offense with lots of skill and lots of warts, mixed with a nasty rat with a temper and a flair for the violent. Only a center or center-winger hybrid. But watching him more, I really like my Zegras/Domi hybrid comp. I really feel satisfied with that one.

I watched a ton of his games from last season. He's so completely undisciplined. Haha. But in the best ways. He's so unpredictable with both his skill and his violence. He will throw the biggest, dirtiest hit, in the quietest most pointless time of a game. He's involved in every single scrum after the whistle. He's possibly the most hated player in the MHL. People are always taking runs at him and looking for him after whistles.

But also he's completely unpredictable with the puck. He does the craziest and the stupidest things. He's so skilled. And so nasty. It's all about trying to rein him in.

But he is wearing the C for Loko as a 17 year old. So obviously it's not the biggest problem on earth for his coaches and teammates.

 

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I’ve honestly been trying to find a comp that felt right to me for Surin since July. I was thinking maybe Duclair mixed with Domi. That risk taking gambler on offense with lots of skill and lots of warts, mixed with a nasty rat with a temper and a flair for the violent. Only a center or center-winger hybrid. But watching him more, I really like my Zegras/Domi hybrid comp. I really feel satisfied with that one.

I watched a ton of his games from last season. He's so completely undisciplined. Haha. But in the best ways. He's so unpredictable with both his skill and his violence. He will throw the biggest, dirtiest hit, in the quietest most pointless time of a game. He's involved in every single scrum after the whistle. He's possibly the most hated player in the MHL. People are always taking runs at him and looking for him after whistles.

But also he's completely unpredictable with the puck. He does the craziest and the stupidest things. He's so skilled. And so nasty. It's all about trying to rein him in.

But he is wearing the C for Loko as a 17 year old. So obviously it's not the biggest problem on earth for his coaches and teammates.

Hopefully the Zegras/Domi comparison is on ice only haha. BA does have a no scumbag rule…
 
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