HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[SOLR]

Actually, The Habs did contain the Lightning to a fair amount. Their PP was an impressive 37.7% before they faced the Habs. Tampa's PP was 13.3% against the Habs in the finals and Danault was a big factor in this.

Tampa beat us with Coleman, Johnson, Goodrow, Palat, Point, McDonagh, Rutta, Cirelli, Cernak. Kucherov was the only one of their stars that put up the points you would expect.

Tampa being over the cap was a factor. Their depth behind their stars was a strong area.

Depth makes the single contribution of stars slightly more resilient, we need to make sure to have enough depth coming out of the rebuild. 4 1st in the next 2 drafts (likely). Hopefully we get to 6 1st and we score on a few 2nds/3rds.

But I think the Panthers are showing us something else. Hard to play against "at the limit", at the highest level, has a significant physical component. We need depth that add to that quality so we can at least compete in a more physical battle.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Depth makes the single contribution of stars slightly more resilient, we need to make sure to have enough depth coming out of the rebuild. 4 1st in the next 2 drafts (likely). Hopefully we get to 6 1st and we score on a few 2nds/3rds.

But I think the Panthers are showing us something else. Hard to play against "at the limit", at the highest level, has a significant physical component. We need depth that add to that quality so we can at least compete in a more physical battle.

I'd love to continue this but others are getting cranky about non draft conversations.

 

[Deebs]

Why American defenceman Cole Hutson could be a first-round draft steal

An offensive defenceman known for rising to the occasion in big moments, Cole Hutson has the tools to become a high-end NHL prospect like his brother Lane.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[SOLR]

I'd love to continue this but others are getting cranky about non draft conversations.

This is a draft one Informs on qualities to look for, that we don't yet have in this core. We need more scoring, but we need scoring that is sustainable during the playoffs. That's why I have Iginla 2nd forward, as I believe he will do that better than Sennecke/Lindstrom (even if they are bigger). I'd make an exception for Demidov, but even there, Demidov is no angel.

Why American defenceman Cole Hutson could be a first-round draft steal

An offensive defenceman known for rising to the occasion in big moments, Cole Hutson has the tools to become a high-end NHL prospect like his brother Lane.

www.sportsnet.ca

I have him in the top 14. Imo the best shooter from the blue line in a world where power play specialists are worth more.

 

[Habs Halifax]

This is a draft one Informs on qualities to look for, that we don't yet have in this core. We need more scoring, but we need scoring that is sustainable during the playoffs. That's why I have Iginla 2nd forward, as I believe he will do that better than Sennecke/Lindstrom (even if they are bigger). I'd make an exception for Demidov, but even there, Demidov is no angel.



I have him in the top 14. Imo the best shooter from the blue line in a world where power play specialists are worth more.

Iggy and Eiserman were two of my targets before we knew what our pick would be. Since then, I have adjusted it a bit where Iggy is 5-7 and Eiserman is 8-14.

There is a big part of me that thinks Eiserman is a sleeper pick. 30+ goal threat in the NHL is not that easy to find and I really like his shooter mentality. He's got Caufield's goal scoring ability but with size.

Both Iggy and Eiserman are two the younger ones in this draft too.

Right now, my potential BPA's are Demidov, Dickinson, Iggy, Lindstrom. Guys like Catton, Eiserman, Sennecke are in the waive behind them. I keep gravitating towards who are going to be the busts in this top 14. Difficult to predict today but it's going to happen.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[SOLR]

Iggy and Eiserman were two of my targets before we knew what our pick would be. Since then, I have adjusted it a bit where Iggy is 5-7 and Eiserman is 8-14.

There is a big part of me that thinks Eiserman is a sleeper pick. 30+ goal threat in the NHL is not that easy to find and I really like his shooter mentality. He's got Caufield's goal scoring ability but with size.

Both Iggy and Eiserman are two the younger ones in this draft too.

Right now, my potential BPA's are Demidov, Dickinson, Iggy, Lindstrom. Guys like Catton, Eiserman, Sennecke are in the waive behind them. I keep gravitating towards who are going to be the busts in this top 14. Difficult to predict today but it's going to happen.

I fear Eiserman's lack of hockey IQ quite a bit. He has very little production best-on-best in International tournament, it's not full proof but often a good signal that a player will find it challenging at the next level to find a niche. Who knows he might end up on a line with a good play making center. But I don't think we really have that. So I'd rank him higher if I'm New Jersey for example (vs. us).

I see Suzuki has a 2 way center more than a play making one.
Dach has the skills he just needs to arrive.

That's why I'd be a bit nervous with Eiserman with us.
Caufield at least can generate with anyone.

 

[montreal]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801982196342837376

 

[Habs Halifax]

I fear Eiserman's lack of hockey IQ quite a bit. He has very little production best-on-best in International tournament, it's not full proof but often a good signal that a player will find it challenging at the next level to find a niche. Who knows he might end up on a line with a good play making center. But I don't think we really have that. So I'd rank him higher if I'm New Jersey for example (vs. us).

I see Suzuki has a 2 way center more than a play making one.
Dach has the skills he just needs to arrive.

That's why I'd be a bit nervous with Eiserman with us.
Caufield at least can generate with anyone.

I find it very interesting where Eiserman was top 3 heading into the draft year and ends up putting up 58 goals in 57 UTDP games (Broke Caufield's record and he was playing with J Hughes). Then backs it up with 10 pts and 9 goals in 7 U18 games. And now most rankings has him 10+. That lack of IQ or work ethic has to be a major red flag for him to drop with those numbers.

Someone is going to have Eiserman slip to them and be very happy about it. Kind of like when we drafted Caufield.

How good is James Hagens (2025 prospect)? He had 102 pts with 39 goals in 58 games. I'm assuming Eiserman played with him. Is this another Hughes/Caufield situation?

I don't have the guts to take him 5th but he's a sleeper pick for me in this draft.

 

[Vachon23]

If that’s what happen during draft day, I’m calling Toronto and try to trade up for Hage

 

[Jaynki]

Water-gun to your head: Silayev or Catton?

Silayev.

You ?

 

[SOLR]

I find it very interesting where Eiserman was top 3 heading into the draft year and ends up putting up 58 goals in 57 UTDP games (Broke Caufield's record and he was playing with J Hughes). Then backs it up with 10 pts and 9 goals in 7 U18 games. And now most rankings has him 10+. That lack of IQ or work ethic has to be a major red flag for him to drop with those numbers.

Someone is going to have Eiserman slip to them and be very happy about it. Kind of like when we drafted Caufield.

I don't have the guts to take him 5th but he's a sleeper pick for me in this draft.

For sure, he's a sleeper pick if you have a good play making center.

If you drafted
Sillinger in 2021
Cooley in 2022
Bedard, Carlsson, Dvorsky in 2023
Celebrini or Demidov (even if he's not a center)

Go for it, great continuation pick even in the top 10.

 

[Deebs]

My boy Lindy!!!!

 

[Habs Halifax]

For sure, he's a sleeper pick if you have a good play making center.

If you drafted
Sillinger in 2021
Cooley in 2022
Bedard, Carlsson, Dvorsky in 2023
Celebrini or Demidov (even if he's not a center)

Go for it, great continuation pick even in the top 10.

Would be nice to get our hands on the 10th or 11th picks and still have our 5th. I think if Hughes can't find a trade to add another pick, he will consider trading down with our 5th. Personally, I want us to keep it simple and take Iggy 5th but there is a part of me that thinks Gorton/Hughes and our scouts will like all of Iggy, Sennecke, Eiserman.

What would we get if we trade down from 5 to 10th or 11th? Not sure but maybe we use that asset to have two picks from 9-14 range. That's an angle not many of us are considering.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Bob's list next Monday.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802734937033830423

 

[Jaynki]

I genuinely wonder if Sennecke is better perceived by the NHL staff than the likes of Iginla, Lindstrom and Demidov.

Reading those scout sentences that comes out with the guides and every article popping out it gives this feeling.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Catton at 15 is f***ing insane.

 

[overlords]

Catton at 15 is f***ing insane.

I'd be yelling at my screen to trade up

 

[ReHabs]

Silayev.

You ?

It's very hard. Assuming both pass the interview test (the one that Wright allegedly failed), I think Silayev's upside and his floor is better than Catton's so I'd go with him. A 6'7" beast who held his own in the KHL at 17 would've been top2 at worst if Russian hockey wasn't being artificially suppressed.

I'm less high on Dickinson now that a bunch of scouts put him down. I'm going (in order of preference) (Levshunov), Silayev, Catton, Demidov, Sennecke I think.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Bob's list next Monday.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802734937033830423

Nice! I just googled this to see if it was released. Very curious to see his adjusted rankings in the top 15 and the rest of the 1st round. His list usually is the stabilizer

 

[BergevinBurner]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801982196342837376

I'm adding him to the @Skip Bayless DND list.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It's very hard. Assuming both pass the interview test (the one that Wright allegedly failed), I think Silayev's upside and his floor is better than Catton's so I'd go with him. A 6'7" beast who held his own in the KHL at 17 would've been top2 at worst if Russian hockey wasn't being artificially suppressed.

I'm less high on Dickinson now that a bunch of scouts put him down. I'm going (in order of preference) (Levshunov), Silayev, Catton, Demidov, Sennecke I think.

Found Rene Fasel's burner account

 

[Habs Halifax]

I genuinely wonder if Sennecke is better perceived by the NHL staff than the likes of Iginla, Lindstrom and Demidov.

Reading those scout sentences that comes out with the guides and every article popping out it gives this feeling.

I would find it hard to believe that when you look at most lists, Sennecke is 9-14 range but teams have him ahead of Iginla, Lindstrom, Demidov? And I'm talking about a fair amount of draft rankings (not just Bob or a few lists). I am curious to see where Bob has him in his final rankings. In may, he had him 14th still.

I'd be willing to bet $50 that Iginla, Lindstrom, and Demidov get taken before Sennecke. How confident are you or do you want to wait for Bob's final list to come out?

Iggy's going to be 5-8 range and Sennecke will be 9-13 range in Bob's new list

 

[SOLR]

I'd be yelling at my screen to trade up

Same, reminds me of Joe Sakic being drafted 15.

I'd make something happen as soon as I see him past 11 even if it makes next year slightly more challenging (trading Matheson/Savard).

 

[McGees]

Buttons mock draft seems like it could be a realistic order for how the top 5 unfolds.
1.Celery
2. Old man Lev
3. Dick
4. Demi
5. Lindstrom