HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[TheBuriedHab]

Bob's list next Monday.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802734937033830423

 

[Jaynki]

I genuinely wonder if Sennecke is better perceived by the NHL staff than the likes of Iginla, Lindstrom and Demidov.

Reading those scout sentences that comes out with the guides and every article popping out it gives this feeling.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Catton at 15 is f***ing insane.

 

[overlords]

Catton at 15 is f***ing insane.

I'd be yelling at my screen to trade up

 

[ReHabs]

Silayev.

You ?

It's very hard. Assuming both pass the interview test (the one that Wright allegedly failed), I think Silayev's upside and his floor is better than Catton's so I'd go with him. A 6'7" beast who held his own in the KHL at 17 would've been top2 at worst if Russian hockey wasn't being artificially suppressed.

I'm less high on Dickinson now that a bunch of scouts put him down. I'm going (in order of preference) (Levshunov), Silayev, Catton, Demidov, Sennecke I think.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Bob's list next Monday.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802734937033830423

Nice! I just googled this to see if it was released. Very curious to see his adjusted rankings in the top 15 and the rest of the 1st round. His list usually is the stabilizer

 

[BergevinBurner]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801982196342837376

I'm adding him to the @Skip Bayless DND list.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It's very hard. Assuming both pass the interview test (the one that Wright allegedly failed), I think Silayev's upside and his floor is better than Catton's so I'd go with him. A 6'7" beast who held his own in the KHL at 17 would've been top2 at worst if Russian hockey wasn't being artificially suppressed.

I'm less high on Dickinson now that a bunch of scouts put him down. I'm going (in order of preference) (Levshunov), Silayev, Catton, Demidov, Sennecke I think.

Found Rene Fasel's burner account

 

[Habs Halifax]

I genuinely wonder if Sennecke is better perceived by the NHL staff than the likes of Iginla, Lindstrom and Demidov.

Reading those scout sentences that comes out with the guides and every article popping out it gives this feeling.

I would find it hard to believe that when you look at most lists, Sennecke is 9-14 range but teams have him ahead of Iginla, Lindstrom, Demidov? And I'm talking about a fair amount of draft rankings (not just Bob or a few lists). I am curious to see where Bob has him in his final rankings. In may, he had him 14th still.

I'd be willing to bet $50 that Iginla, Lindstrom, and Demidov get taken before Sennecke. How confident are you or do you want to wait for Bob's final list to come out?

Iggy's going to be 5-8 range and Sennecke will be 9-13 range in Bob's new list

 

[SOLR]

I'd be yelling at my screen to trade up

Same, reminds me of Joe Sakic being drafted 15.

I'd make something happen as soon as I see him past 11 even if it makes next year slightly more challenging (trading Matheson/Savard).

 

[McGees]

Buttons mock draft seems like it could be a realistic order for how the top 5 unfolds.
1.Celery
2. Old man Lev
3. Dick
4. Demi
5. Lindstrom

 

[sampollock]

Hey Halifax....why isn't it sinking in? Take this stuff somewhere else for the benefit of everyone interested in draft info and/or talk

YUP

 

[Kents polished head]

Somewhat unrelated to the current topic, but I'd be careful about "MAN I'd really like to have a couple of picks in this draft it's SOOOO deep".

There's an element of bias in all that. You read a lot about the qualities of several prospect and get excited about their potential, but in the end it's just that; potential.

And there are discussions EACH and EVERY year on how "getting a second high pick would be huge". In fact, it's not AS huge as we think it is now.

I would not hesitate to trade a guy like Matheson for a proven, young NHL forward in a trade that would bring, say, a Necas in. But I would not trade him for a second top-half 1st rounder at this point of the rebuild neither.

 

[Skip Bayless]

@skip

I'm adding him to the @Skip Bayless DND list.

They don't even look like real warmup drills.

Somewhat unrelated to the current topic, but I'd be careful about "MAN I'd really like to have a couple of picks in this draft it's SOOOO deep".

There's an element of bias in all that. You read a lot about the qualities of several prospect and get excited about their potential, but in the end it's just that; potential.

And there are discussions EACH and EVERY year on how "getting a second high pick would be huge". In fact, it's not AS huge as we think it is now.

I would not hesitate to trade a guy like Matheson for a proven, young NHL forward in a trade that would bring, say, a Necas in. But I would not trade him for a second top-half 1st rounder at this point of the rebuild neither.

AFAIC, we should trade all of our picks outside the first round.

 

[Kents polished head]

They don't even look like real warmup drills.



AFAIC, we should trade all of our picks outside the first round.

I mean, it's ok to keep a couple because in the end it's a dart game. The more darts you throw the higher your odds are.

But to suggest we should trade important, proven element for another dart is too much IMO. And most people who advocate for that will realize it a few days after the draft.

It's natural, the hype is higher the closer you get to the draft. Even some GMs give in and overpay for first rounders more than they would several months back come draft day.

 

[overlords]

They don't even look like real warmup drills.



AFAIC, we should trade all of our picks outside the first round.

gotta keep the late 2nd/ early 3rd for Koivu

 

[Trabdy2]

Somewhat unrelated to the current topic, but I'd be careful about "MAN I'd really like to have a couple of picks in this draft it's SOOOO deep".

There's an element of bias in all that. You read a lot about the qualities of several prospect and get excited about their potential, but in the end it's just that; potential.

And there are discussions EACH and EVERY year on how "getting a second high pick would be huge". In fact, it's not AS huge as we think it is now.

I would not hesitate to trade a guy like Matheson for a proven, young NHL forward in a trade that would bring, say, a Necas in. But I would not trade him for a second top-half 1st rounder at this point of the rebuild neither.

I generally agree with this, and I think that Hughes is also keenly aware based on the Dach and Newhook trades the last couple drafts where we traded picks for the forwards.

I have a growing feeling that the WPG first will be traded in a package for a young forward.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I genuinely wonder if Sennecke is better perceived by the NHL staff than the likes of Iginla, Lindstrom and Demidov.

Reading those scout sentences that comes out with the guides and every article popping out it gives this feeling.

Iginla - it certainly seems that way. Not over Lindstrom unless the medicals are bad and I can see a world where Sennecke goes over Demidov but I wouldn't expect it. It wouldn't be able perception of Sennecke being a 'better' prospect than Demidov, imo.

Buttons mock draft seems like it could be a realistic order for how the top 5 unfolds.
1.Celery
2. Old man Lev
3. Dick
4. Demi
5. Lindstrom

I don't expect Dickinson to go 3 at all - seems lower with NHL teams than you'd expect. I think 3 is Silayev and I don't see CBJ going Demidov over Lindstrom.

It looks like Celebrini-Lev-Silayev-Lindstrom-Demidov to me, but two weeks out so plenty of room for that perception to change.

 

[le_sean]

Scott Wheeler just did a scout/players poll too

Here's some excerpts relevant to the topic and our pick.

Which is why I think, if what Arpon said is true, that they go Parekh at 5 on the off chance Demidov and Lindstrom aren’t there.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Which is why I think, if what Arpon said is true, that they go Parekh at 5 on the off chance Demidov and Lindstrom aren’t there.

That's the one that makes the most sense for me. He's a right shot defender which we only really have Reinbacher/Mailloux/Konyushkov and Barron, but Barron might find himself out soon with his waiver status.

Buium would just compound a problem while not bringing anything Hutson doesn't already bring.

 

[le_sean]

That's the one that makes the most sense for me. He's a right shot defender which we only really have Reinbacher/Mailloux/Konyushkov and Barron, but Barron might find himself out soon with his waiver status.

Buium would just compound a problem while not bringing anything Hutson doesn't already bring.

Agreed. He creates offence differently than Hutson and Buium plus the bonus’s of being RD which fits better with the players the Habs already have.

If management is serious about adding talent, he’s the next best thing after those two forwards. And the Habs definitely lack talent.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Agreed. He creates offence differently than Hutson and Buium plus the bonus’s of being RD which fits better with the players the Habs already have.

If management is serious about adding talent, he’s the next best thing after those two forwards. And the Habs definitely lack talent.

I'd go Sennecke if Demidov/Lindstrom are gone.. but Parekh is just behind him in that sense, I think getting a forward is more important for us.

 

[Deebs]

Agreed. He creates offence differently than Hutson and Buium plus the bonus’s of being RD which fits better with the players the Habs already have.

If management is serious about adding talent, he’s the next best thing after those two forwards. And the Habs definitely lack talent.

So if we draft Parekh, I don't see a defense corps that can ice both he and Hutson on the same team and be a legitimate contender. Given his offensive talents, making him available in the trade market could bring us a solid return.

 

[WeThreeKings]

So if we draft Parekh, I don't see a defense corps that can ice both he and Hutson on the same team and be a legitimate contender. Given his offensive talents, making him available in the trade market could bring us a solid return.

Same issue happens if you draft Buium, only it's bigger because they're both the same handedness.

Having Forsling and Montour doesn't stop Florida from competing.

I think there's room for 2 but for me they've gotta be opposite handedness.. I think it really troubles Mailloux.. so that's why I still lean forward.. Mailloux and Hutson covers our offensive needs on the back end, Engstrom also has offense to his game.

 

[Deebs]

Same issue happens if you draft Buium, only it's bigger because they're both the same handedness.

Having Forsling and Montour doesn't stop Florida from competing.

I think there's room for 2 but for me they've gotta be opposite handedness.. I think it really troubles Mailloux.. so that's why I still lean forward.. Mailloux and Hutson covers our offensive needs on the back end, Engstrom also has offense to his game.

Agree with the Buium reference. In regards to the Florida team, they are so strong defensively as a team, they can get away with a somewhat smaller back end, but even then, both guys are 200lbs. Also, Hutson will never be as defensively stout as either Forsling or Montour imo.