HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I do not see it... Connelly has showed more.

Hes super talented, very individualistic to his own detriment, doesn't make people around him better, and is a head case and has off ice/character issues. He should be on the no trade list 100%

 

[Trabdy2]

Water-gun to your head: Silayev or Catton?

Catton for me.

 

[Mrb1p]

Only thing I wish Silayev would do more is to be physical. The guy would be a massive pain in the ass to play against. That being said he's such a smart player that the Myers/Zadorov talk makes me wonder if the players criticizing him know anything about his game.

Myers is actually a pretty good D up until he makes the stupidest blunder ever created in the universe aside from the Matheson universe. Zadorov is also pretty smart, I'd say it's mostly his skating that holds him back.

Silayev has the possibility of being Myers without the stupid shit or Z without the skating issues and without the toughness.

 

[SOLR]

I never said some players don't elevate their games in the POs. I made the point these players don't answer to an archetype.

It's a lot more psychological than it is about centimeters.

Oh yep

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah everything about hockey is points. Teams don't win either, just star players. Right.

"He couldn't shut down the bolts either"

LOL wow.

Actually, The Habs did contain the Lightning to a fair amount. Their PP was an impressive 37.7% before they faced the Habs. Tampa's PP was 13.3% against the Habs in the finals and Danault was a big factor in this.

Tampa beat us with Coleman, Johnson, Goodrow, Palat, Point, McDonagh, Rutta, Cirelli, Cernak. Kucherov was the only one of their stars that put up the points you would expect.

Tampa being over the cap was a factor. Their depth behind their stars was a strong area.

 

[le_sean]

Nah, our coach was obsessively using Danault in a defense first role. Not he same usage as Barkov. Barkov's D is a different kind of strength.

* Danault's corsi was 51% and he had 64% of D zone starts.
* Barkov's corsi is 62% and he has 44% of D zone starts.

You need to consider usage, type of player, and what the coach wants them to do. Danault filled his role perfectly. Asking him to step up offensively is a reach and bad coaching. He did have a key assist to Lehkonen's clinching goal against the Knights

He played 19 mins a game and didn’t score a goal until the Finals. I get he played in a defensive role, but that’s just poor.

Take Sami Pahlsson as an example for the Ducks. Same minutes, same role. Played with Travis Moen and Rob Niedermayer, not exactly top offensive talents. He still managed 12 points in the Cup run.

Back to the draft, let’s hope we don’t pick a Phil Danault at 5th overall

 

[ReHabs]

I would take Catton too, and think he's a more pressing need, but Silayev's upside is hard to turn down.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Trevor Timmins in CBJ won’t allow them to draft a skilled forward. He’ll bang on the table and argue that there’s a better American HS student with a thick frame out there.

Sennecke it is then but i think they should consider Catton for the second C spot, i see Jonhson as an W

 

[Deebs]

Please stop debating veteran players in the Draft thread. For the sake of my back, don't make me cart all the Danault posts into another thread.

Actually, The Habs did contain the Lightning to a fair amount. Their PP was an impressive 37.7% before they faced the Habs. Tampa's PP was 13.3% against the Habs. Danault was a big factor in this.

Tampa beat us with Coleman, Johnson, Goodrow, Palat, Point, McDonagh, Rutta, Cirelli, Cernak. Kucherov was the only one of their stars that put up the points you would expect.

Tampa being over the cap was a factor. Their depth behind their stars was a strong area.

Hey Halifax....why isn't it sinking in? Take this stuff somewhere else for the benefit of everyone interested in draft info and/or talk

 

[The Great Weal]

Myers is actually a pretty good D up until he makes the stupidest blunder ever created in the universe aside

Which he does like 3-4 times a period. Not sure how you can be a pretty good D when you consistently make awful mistakes.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He played 19 mins a game and didn’t score a goal until the Finals. I get he played in a defensive role, but that’s just poor.

Take Sami Pahlsson as an example for the Ducks. Same minutes, same role. Played with Travis Moen and Rob Niedermayer, not exactly top offensive talents. He still managed 12 points in the Cup run.

It was one of the most obsessive D utilization you will see from a forward. We are being too hard on Danault. He's very good at what he does.

Carbonneau (6 pts with 3 goals in 20 games... 93 finals)
vs
Danault (4 pts with 1 goal in 22 games.. 21 finals)

Hey Halifax....why isn't it sinking in? Take this stuff somewhere else for the benefit of everyone interested in draft info and/or talk

Every consider I didn't see the warning? You should not try to play Mod btw. There is a fair amount of off topic conversations that happens in every thread. Relax and let the mods do their job. My bad for falling into the distraction.

Also, why don't you reply to all the ones who have talked about non draft things? Seems to me like you are focusing on one poster and you could have sent a private message. I didn't even start this derail.

 

[SOLR]

Actually, The Habs did contain the Lightning to a fair amount. Their PP was an impressive 37.7% before they faced the Habs. Tampa's PP was 13.3% against the Habs in the finals and Danault was a big factor in this.

Tampa beat us with Coleman, Johnson, Goodrow, Palat, Point, McDonagh, Rutta, Cirelli, Cernak. Kucherov was the only one of their stars that put up the points you would expect.

Tampa being over the cap was a factor. Their depth behind their stars was a strong area.

Depth makes the single contribution of stars slightly more resilient, we need to make sure to have enough depth coming out of the rebuild. 4 1st in the next 2 drafts (likely). Hopefully we get to 6 1st and we score on a few 2nds/3rds.

But I think the Panthers are showing us something else. Hard to play against "at the limit", at the highest level, has a significant physical component. We need depth that add to that quality so we can at least compete in a more physical battle.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Depth makes the single contribution of stars slightly more resilient, we need to make sure to have enough depth coming out of the rebuild. 4 1st in the next 2 drafts (likely). Hopefully we get to 6 1st and we score on a few 2nds/3rds.

But I think the Panthers are showing us something else. Hard to play against "at the limit", at the highest level, has a significant physical component. We need depth that add to that quality so we can at least compete in a more physical battle.

I'd love to continue this but others are getting cranky about non draft conversations.

 

[Deebs]

Why American defenceman Cole Hutson could be a first-round draft steal

An offensive defenceman known for rising to the occasion in big moments, Cole Hutson has the tools to become a high-end NHL prospect like his brother Lane.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[SOLR]

I'd love to continue this but others are getting cranky about non draft conversations.

This is a draft one Informs on qualities to look for, that we don't yet have in this core. We need more scoring, but we need scoring that is sustainable during the playoffs. That's why I have Iginla 2nd forward, as I believe he will do that better than Sennecke/Lindstrom (even if they are bigger). I'd make an exception for Demidov, but even there, Demidov is no angel.

Why American defenceman Cole Hutson could be a first-round draft steal

An offensive defenceman known for rising to the occasion in big moments, Cole Hutson has the tools to become a high-end NHL prospect like his brother Lane.

www.sportsnet.ca

I have him in the top 14. Imo the best shooter from the blue line in a world where power play specialists are worth more.

 

[Habs Halifax]

This is a draft one Informs on qualities to look for, that we don't yet have in this core. We need more scoring, but we need scoring that is sustainable during the playoffs. That's why I have Iginla 2nd forward, as I believe he will do that better than Sennecke/Lindstrom (even if they are bigger). I'd make an exception for Demidov, but even there, Demidov is no angel.



I have him in the top 14. Imo the best shooter from the blue line in a world where power play specialists are worth more.

Iggy and Eiserman were two of my targets before we knew what our pick would be. Since then, I have adjusted it a bit where Iggy is 5-7 and Eiserman is 8-14.

There is a big part of me that thinks Eiserman is a sleeper pick. 30+ goal threat in the NHL is not that easy to find and I really like his shooter mentality. He's got Caufield's goal scoring ability but with size.

Both Iggy and Eiserman are two the younger ones in this draft too.

Right now, my potential BPA's are Demidov, Dickinson, Iggy, Lindstrom. Guys like Catton, Eiserman, Sennecke are in the waive behind them. I keep gravitating towards who are going to be the busts in this top 14. Difficult to predict today but it's going to happen.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[SOLR]

Iggy and Eiserman were two of my targets before we knew what our pick would be. Since then, I have adjusted it a bit where Iggy is 5-7 and Eiserman is 8-14.

There is a big part of me that thinks Eiserman is a sleeper pick. 30+ goal threat in the NHL is not that easy to find and I really like his shooter mentality. He's got Caufield's goal scoring ability but with size.

Both Iggy and Eiserman are two the younger ones in this draft too.

Right now, my potential BPA's are Demidov, Dickinson, Iggy, Lindstrom. Guys like Catton, Eiserman, Sennecke are in the waive behind them. I keep gravitating towards who are going to be the busts in this top 14. Difficult to predict today but it's going to happen.

I fear Eiserman's lack of hockey IQ quite a bit. He has very little production best-on-best in International tournament, it's not full proof but often a good signal that a player will find it challenging at the next level to find a niche. Who knows he might end up on a line with a good play making center. But I don't think we really have that. So I'd rank him higher if I'm New Jersey for example (vs. us).

I see Suzuki has a 2 way center more than a play making one.
Dach has the skills he just needs to arrive.

That's why I'd be a bit nervous with Eiserman with us.
Caufield at least can generate with anyone.

 

[montreal]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801982196342837376

 

[Habs Halifax]

I fear Eiserman's lack of hockey IQ quite a bit. He has very little production best-on-best in International tournament, it's not full proof but often a good signal that a player will find it challenging at the next level to find a niche. Who knows he might end up on a line with a good play making center. But I don't think we really have that. So I'd rank him higher if I'm New Jersey for example (vs. us).

I see Suzuki has a 2 way center more than a play making one.
Dach has the skills he just needs to arrive.

That's why I'd be a bit nervous with Eiserman with us.
Caufield at least can generate with anyone.

I find it very interesting where Eiserman was top 3 heading into the draft year and ends up putting up 58 goals in 57 UTDP games (Broke Caufield's record and he was playing with J Hughes). Then backs it up with 10 pts and 9 goals in 7 U18 games. And now most rankings has him 10+. That lack of IQ or work ethic has to be a major red flag for him to drop with those numbers.

Someone is going to have Eiserman slip to them and be very happy about it. Kind of like when we drafted Caufield.

How good is James Hagens (2025 prospect)? He had 102 pts with 39 goals in 58 games. I'm assuming Eiserman played with him. Is this another Hughes/Caufield situation?

I don't have the guts to take him 5th but he's a sleeper pick for me in this draft.

 

[Vachon23]

If that’s what happen during draft day, I’m calling Toronto and try to trade up for Hage

 

[Jaynki]

Water-gun to your head: Silayev or Catton?

Silayev.

You ?

 

[SOLR]

I find it very interesting where Eiserman was top 3 heading into the draft year and ends up putting up 58 goals in 57 UTDP games (Broke Caufield's record and he was playing with J Hughes). Then backs it up with 10 pts and 9 goals in 7 U18 games. And now most rankings has him 10+. That lack of IQ or work ethic has to be a major red flag for him to drop with those numbers.

Someone is going to have Eiserman slip to them and be very happy about it. Kind of like when we drafted Caufield.

I don't have the guts to take him 5th but he's a sleeper pick for me in this draft.

For sure, he's a sleeper pick if you have a good play making center.

If you drafted
Sillinger in 2021
Cooley in 2022
Bedard, Carlsson, Dvorsky in 2023
Celebrini or Demidov (even if he's not a center)

Go for it, great continuation pick even in the top 10.

 

[Deebs]

My boy Lindy!!!!

 

[Habs Halifax]

For sure, he's a sleeper pick if you have a good play making center.

If you drafted
Sillinger in 2021
Cooley in 2022
Bedard, Carlsson, Dvorsky in 2023
Celebrini or Demidov (even if he's not a center)

Go for it, great continuation pick even in the top 10.

Would be nice to get our hands on the 10th or 11th picks and still have our 5th. I think if Hughes can't find a trade to add another pick, he will consider trading down with our 5th. Personally, I want us to keep it simple and take Iggy 5th but there is a part of me that thinks Gorton/Hughes and our scouts will like all of Iggy, Sennecke, Eiserman.

What would we get if we trade down from 5 to 10th or 11th? Not sure but maybe we use that asset to have two picks from 9-14 range. That's an angle not many of us are considering.