HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[SOLR]

it's politics. it's not about the best of the best. every year we seem to be left scratching our heads, win or lose, it's just the politics behind hockey canada.

I don't think it's politics at all, he's just not quite there yet. Particularly at D you want players who can handle the speed / pressure (case in point Maverick Lamoureux didn't handle the Swedish/US level). We needed someone like Mews a lot more than Dickinson on that D. He'll be there next year.

 

[SOLR]

Suzuki is fine as he is at 212 lbs and you can always trade smaller assets that may be redundant on your roster but valued on others. Tampa won with a relatively small forward group and huge D.......

Indeed, you can always trade, but there is an assumption that is not always true. It's not always true that you get your value back and that it doesn't cause significant roster issues. It's way better when you can draft your core players, sign and keep them - and they are the players you need to win.

 

[GalHabsGal]

Hi all , after watching a couple of video from the top 10 picks of 2024 (Eliteprospect) I have a new favorite at number 1, and its not Celebrini

It'ssssssssssssssssss Ivan Demidov



Note: I will still pick celebrini at 1, but Demidov is such a spectacular prospect

 

[crosbyshow]

Hi all , after watching a couple of video from the top 10 picks of 2024 (Eliteprospect) I have a new favorite at number 1, and its not Celebrini

It'ssssssssssssssssss Ivan Demidov



Note: I will still pick celebrini at 1, but Demidov is such a spectacular prospect

His edge is amazing.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hi all , after watching a couple of video from the top 10 picks of 2024 (Eliteprospect) I have a new favorite at number 1, and its not Celebrini

It'ssssssssssssssssss Ivan Demidov



Note: I will still pick celebrini at 1, but Demidov is such a spectacular prospect

We need that player so hard. There's nothing we need more than a guy that skates, shoot, passes and dangles like that.

 

[Leto]

I don't think it's politics at all, he's just not quite there yet. Particularly at D you want players who can handle the speed / pressure (case in point Maverick Lamoureux didn't handle the Swedish/US level). We needed someone like Mews a lot more than Dickinson on that D. He'll be there next year.

Since no one is mentioning him, what's your take on Mews? Haven't heard a peep on him since the Hlinka.

 

[SOLR]

Since no one is mentioning him, what's your take on Mews? Haven't heard a peep on him since the Hlinka.

He has the toolbox of an excellent offensive D. He just needs to mature to turn into a Zellweger type. The biggest risk is slow physical maturation, it's a test for him, and he needs a lot of gym time he has everything else. Current flaws on the ice can be mostly explained by this. But hey, point per game for a D at 17 in the OHL, is pretty damn good. Looking forward to a big 2nd half from him as he turns 18. He's not talked about enough for the draft, it's weird to me to see him rank 16-25. With the somewhat lacking talent level this year, I would rank him higher.

Canada didn't have one true offensive D in that lineup, it's pretty hard to compete without it, particularly against Hudson etc.

 

[Jaynki]

We need that player so hard. There's nothing we need more than a guy that skates, shoot, passes and dangles like that.

We need someone to grind da puck tho

 

[Mrb1p]

We need someone to grind da puck tho

Slaf and Dach can do this. And its much easier to find too.

 

[KevSkillz4]

So far 2022 and 2023 are both good looking draft for Habs. I really hope that 2024 draft will be a another good looking aswell.

I believe that Habs will select between 6 and 12 if the Lottery don't change the position.

So we are going to be able to select a very very good prospect. If Habs select a LD, they will maybe try to trade Kaiden Guhle for a very very good young offensive foward (but I don't want to see it because I'm a big fan of Guhle since his draft year and he is going to be a top pair D 100%).

But at this range, no doubt, a player like Catton, Helenius will be there. Too good defense prospect are available at this draft and a good forward prospect will drop. Always a great talent drop in any draft, looks Zach Benson in 2022 draft.

 

[Jaynki]

Slaf and Dach can do this. And its much easier to find too.

I was sarcastic as i whole heartedly agree that we need high end skill and pure octane offensive.

 

[Ezpz]

So far 2022 and 2023 are both good looking draft for Habs. I really hope that 2024 draft will be a another good looking aswell.

I believe that Habs will select between 6 and 12 if the Lottery don't change the position.

So we are going to be able to select a very very good prospect. If Habs select a LD, they will maybe try to trade Kaiden Guhle for a very very good young offensive foward (but I don't want to see it because I'm a big fan of Guhle since his draft year and he is going to be a top pair D 100%).

But at this range, no doubt, a player like Catton, Helenius will be there. Too good defense prospect are available at this draft and a good forward prospect will drop. Always a great talent drop in any draft, looks Zach Benson in 2022 draft.

That's what happens when you keep a lot of picks. Even after trading for Newhook we still picked 9 times.

Because the NHL draft age is much lower than other leagues, fourth round picks can have as much value as a first. We can see that with Xhekaj and Konyushkov having great seasons and even miller looking good.

if we'd traded picks in 2023 though, we wouldn't have gotten Hutson. Picking 11 times let us take chances on Hutson, mesar and engstrom when none of them would have been available at our natural next picks.

slaf-beck-rohrer-guidon-davidson is a lot less impressive.

people shouldn't scoff about getting a fourth here and there for petry or retaining cap because the dart board philosophy is correct.

look at 2020, Farrell was our third fourth round pick and the first two guys are never getting AHL contracts. Rhp was our 9th pick and deep in the 7th round. If we hadn't had those extra picks Farrell and rhp never would have been drafted by us.

If Bergevin had started following this philosophy earlier maybe Timmins never would have been fired.

 

[PavelBrendl]

I'm beginning to scratch the surface on this year's crop and what I can say is this: Because of the strength of the D crop and the likelihood of a team having a love affair with Lindstrom, someone could have a chance to get Berkly Catton outside of the top 5 and that would be an absolute steal. Berk or bust, baby!

 

[KevSkillz4]

I'm beginning to scratch the surface on this year's crop and what I can say is this: Because of the strength of the D crop and the likelihood of a team having a love affair with Lindstrom, someone could have a chance to get Berkly Catton outside of the top 5 and that would be an absolute steal. Berk or bust, baby!

Catton wil be a excellent consolation prize for Habs if we can't able to draft Cayden Lindstrom, for sure !

 

[montreal]

Not sure if anyone watched that BU NU game last night, I wonder if the Habs will take a late round flyer on Dylan Hryckowian. He's been passed over the last 2 years, but is having a good Freshman year and put up good #'s in the USHL last year. He's a local kid and I have suggested that Hughes may be interested in signing his older brother Justin (who scored last night, he wears the C) since he will know him very well as former teammates with his sons and Struble/Harris.

 

[waitin425]

I'm beginning to scratch the surface on this year's crop and what I can say is this: Because of the strength of the D crop and the likelihood of a team having a love affair with Lindstrom, someone could have a chance to get Berkly Catton outside of the top 5 and that would be an absolute steal. Berk or bust, baby!

D Crop is deep but if the season ended today, we could still see a run on forwards.

With no lottery movement.

San Jose - Celebrini obviously
Hawks - probably another forward to pair with Bedard - lindstrom
Sens - could go either way - let's give them a D for arguments sake
Ducks - either way as well - deep both ends of ice
Jackets - forward for sure IMO - Werenski, Jiri and Mateychuk on D
Sabres - Either way
Wild - who knows
Habs - sitting 8th right now. We could jump to 6th. Is it possible Catton is the third forward off the board at 6th? Sure

Maybe Dickinson, Levshunov, Silyayev go first.

 

[Mrb1p]

D Crop is deep but if the season ended today, we could still see a run on forwards.

With no lottery movement.

San Jose - Celebrini obviously
Hawks - probably another forward to pair with Bedard - lindstrom
Sens - could go either way - let's give them a D for arguments sake
Ducks - either way as well - deep both ends of ice
Jackets - forward for sure IMO - Werenski, Jiri and Mateychuk on D
Sabres - Either way
Wild - who knows
Habs - sitting 8th right now. We could jump to 6th. Is it possible Catton is the third forward off the board at 6th? Sure

Maybe Dickinson, Levshunov, Silyayev go first.

Were sitting at 8 so were guaranteed one of Celebrini, Dickinson, Levshunov, Demidov, Catton, Lindstrom, Buium or Eiserman.

I love every single one of them and they change this franchise pretty heavily if they hit at lets say 75%.

8th OA is the furthest Im willing to go. Of course we may see other players go in the top 8, but thats the choices I want. And it we could get inside the top 5...

 

[SOLR]

D Crop is deep but if the season ended today, we could still see a run on forwards.

With no lottery movement.

San Jose - Celebrini obviously
Hawks - probably another forward to pair with Bedard - lindstrom
Sens - could go either way - let's give them a D for arguments sake
Ducks - either way as well - deep both ends of ice
Jackets - forward for sure IMO - Werenski, Jiri and Mateychuk on D
Sabres - Either way
Wild - who knows
Habs - sitting 8th right now. We could jump to 6th. Is it possible Catton is the third forward off the board at 6th? Sure

Maybe Dickinson, Levshunov, Silyayev go first.

Yeah I have

Celebration
Demigod
Dick and his sons
Levure Russe
Cat turned on

in my top 5.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yeah I have

Celebration
Demigod
Dick and his sons
Levure Russe
Cat turned on

in my top 5.

Is chocolate storm just outside the top 5? What about eraserman?

 

[bonneaug]

I was sarcastic as i whole heartedly agree that we need high end skill and pure octane offensive.

Yeah, yeah.

Guys, we found Therrien!!

 

[SOLR]

Is chocolate storm just outside the top 5? What about eraserman?

Stormy Maelstrom is 6th
and Laserman is 9th

 

[Weber Fan]

Catton could be the game changer we are looking for…

 

[HuGort]

Celebrini is the clear cut 1st pick. Quite a drop off after him. Dynamic Jonathan Toews. 80-100 point potential.

Demidov - top line winger - Shiftier Tarasenko
Catton - 2nd line center - Matt Duchene
Lindstrom - 2nd line center - Pierre-luc Dubois
Eiserman - 1st/2nd line winger - Phill Kessel
Brandsegg-Nygard - 2nd line winger - more physical Bjorkstrand

Parekh is electric player. Scored 22 goals as 16 year old. Scoring 1.3ppg this season. Right shot, high hockey smarts

 

[Nevins]

If we get another first Adam Jecho would be a guy i would really like.

Looks like he’s flying under the radar on the public side but i bet he’s higher on some scouts lists.

We need RW,I like his size(6’5’’) ,his stats are ok…not Great. What kind of player is he?

 

[Nevins]

He's big but he's not "Lindstrom" big. His shot is good, powerful but not extremely quick to release, not "Eiserman" good. His game without the puck is very mature I'll give you that, but again, not something extremely rare.

If we had picked Michkov/Benson last year I would be all for picking MBN because he would be a great complement. Now, we don't need a complementary player, we need a play-driver.


If you pick Catton, you make space for him in the top-6. If it's at the expense of Newhook, then so be it.

As always, it is much easier to add size than talent through FA/trade.

Personnaly i don’t have Newhook in our future top 6…third line LW period