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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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Mrb1p said:
I think you're mistaken, Catton is also a pretty obvious exception. He's not any smaller than Keller, Point, Marner, Guentzel, Bratt, Panarin, etc.

There's also the fact that he's not "built like a high schooler", he is a high schooler.
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So I'm right he's still built like a high schooler. And I'm talking about the average high schooler not the ones that look like men. Also all the players besides point (who has the benefit of playing with a top 5 player) are wingers.

I'm not saying Catton is going to suck or that if the Habs had a free top 10 pi k that could only be Catton, I wouldn't jump to get that, I just don't think he'll be as effective with his style of play especially at 5 on 5. Small puck dominant players rarely do even if you mentioned the exceptions. Also Marner isn't small, he's 6'0 180 lbs. He's under average but not small.

But hey he could totally surprise me and be the exception that plays small and still dominates the middle against 6'3 210 lb defensemen come playoff time

jfm133 said:
At the 2017 Combine Suzuki was measured at 5'11 and 183 lbs. Catton this year, 5'10.25 and 175 lbs, but 8 months older than Suzuki was then.
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Suzuki is naturally thick tho. I bet if you were to look at their bone structure, it would be the case
 
Balthazar said:
They need gamebreakers to win the cup...else their ceiling is becoming the Carolina Hurricanes 2.0.

If they pass on a potential gamebreaker like Buium to draft a winger like Sennecke or Iginla just to patch current holes in the lineup it may very well cost them a cup.
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Carolina are just chokers. Has nothing to do with game breaking talent. It's like Colorado besides that one time they won a Stanley Cup. They can't get out of the second round if they even make it unlike 2023 playoffs when Seattle finished them
 
BergevinBurner said:
Only a few more day until our 769 pages of pointless bickering on who to take becomes a thing of the past. Then we can bicker about how we f***ed up/aced the draft:cf:
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Good thing is that barring they make an out of the field pick like Helenius, a good amount of poster will be satisfied with the pick.

Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla, Dickinson, Buium, and Sennecke/Catton to an extend all seems to be popular choice for #5 on Habs board and one of those will be our pick.

I don't see a controversial scenario possible (unless they pass on Demidov, but words have been that Habs highly value his skillset and with Michkov signing with Flyers for next season soon it might have a positive influence on picking Demidov).
 
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Ozmodiar said:
Not small Marner was 5’11”, 160 lbs at the combine.
Small Catton was 5’10”, 175lbs.
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Not all weight is equal. Also I never argued that Marner was never small. ALSO bringing Marner up in the first place was a major L as he's notoriously a playoff flopper. Catton will probably top out around Marner size but it still won't allow him to dominate the middle come playoff time. His whole game relies on pick dominance which won't translate as well as someone like Iginla
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
I was dispointed when we didn't take Michkov last year. But I understood it. RD stud who can bolster the roster and they felt high on him. Cool.

If they somehow got Levshunov, I'd understand it again. RD. Highest ranked in the draft... okay.

But guys who are in the same tier as the forwards and on the left side? Yeah, I'd be pissed.
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Tiers are subjective. I would hope that the habs management have more viewings and interviews that provide some insight as to where the players stand.

No one can perfectly predict physical growth or progression, so it’ll be pretty hard to judge after the fact. I expect the habs will be looking at specific skills and possibilities, though. If the players are not too different they’ll take the best fit. If they think a guy has more potential they have to go for it.
 
dcyhabs said:
Tiers are subjective. I would hope that the habs management have more viewings and interviews that provide some insight as to where the players stand.

No one can perfectly predict physical growth or progression, so it’ll be pretty hard to judge after the fact. I expect the habs will be looking at specific skills and possibilities, though. If the players are not too different they’ll take the best fit. If they think a guy has more potential they have to go for it.
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Cellebrini is in a different tier. Most can agree on that. Let's say we had the first overall and he was an LD. Fine, I get taking him. You HAVE to do that.

But that's not the case here.
 
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HuGo Burner Acc said:
Not all weight is equal. Also I never argued that Marner was never small. ALSO bringing Marner up in the first place was a major L as he's notoriously a playoff flopper. Catton will probably top out around Marner size but it still won't allow him to dominate the middle come playoff time. His whole game relies on pick dominance which won't translate as well as someone like Iginla
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So you say he’ll top out at Marner’s size (very conservative projection). …. And yet, you wrote that Marner “isn’t small” while Catton will be “small” - even though they’ll end up being the same size. Got it.

Also, you’re just speculating about Cattons future playoff performance. Other players sized like catton have excelled in the playoffs.
 
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