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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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GrandmaCookie said:
www.nytimes.com

What I’m hearing on the Canadiens after the combine and ahead of their No. 5 pick at the draft

A rundown of some of the draft information and speculation we were able to gather on the Canadiens at the NHL scouting combine in Buffalo.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Article by Arpon Basu, title says it all
  • Ivan Demidov could be available at No. 5 for the Canadiens, though they might consider Cayden Lindstrom depending on other available players.
  • Demidov's game-breaking abilities are recognized, but concerns exist about his playoff adaptation, skating, and size.
  • Contractually, Demidov has one year left with SKA Saint Petersburg, potentially limiting his options for development in the KHL or forcing him back to the MHL.
  • SKA Saint Petersburg's preference for keeping Demidov adds uncertainty, with pressure possibly influencing his decision.
  • Canadiens weigh player profile scarcity heavily, alongside team building needs and the concept of best player available.
  • Character is a significant factor; Lindstrom, Buium, and Parekh are noted for their strong character, with ongoing assessments of Demidov's character underway.
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If we pass on Demidov, after Michkov, HF Boards won't be safe anymore...
 
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River Meadow said:
If someone wants Xhekaj and we can move up in the draft we should jump on it.

I love Xhekaj but we need to be realistic with his 2 blown out shoulders.

I also wouldn't be too concerned about players like Struble, Harris, Baron, etc, as logjam on D, in regards to drafting Buium. Those guys are bums and interchangeable compared to him, we can move em for wtv.
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Yup, remember trading Chelios because his knees we’re finished they said…yup, good times
 
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Lockin17 said:
No more love for Catton looks like
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Sure why not?

I declare this Saturday Catton's day.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1804504611987886342

Catton felt fortunate to have a chance to stay with Jim and Ellen Hughes two summers ago since Berkly and the Hughes brothers, Jack, Luke and Quinn, each share the same agency.

"It was great how they kind of go through their everyday life and the way the Hughes brothers were brought up is pretty special; how obsessed they are with hockey too," Catton said. "I learned a lot being there and following them. I think it just added to how much I respect and look up to them."
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My vote was a bit of a protest vote. Assuming you don't believe that Lindstrom or Demidov will be available and thus didn't include them, I would consider Dickinson or Buium at 5. Management said all things being equal, they'd lean offence. If Lindstrom and Demidov are their two top options, perhaps a dman becomes the next best option?

And seriously, Konsta Hellenius??
 
skidcells said:
What did he say and where can I read it?
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Why you shouldn't draft for needs:

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His thoughts on the 3 players:

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We aren't picking Buium if Demidov/Lindstrom is there

Kent Hughes was pretty clear he did not want to draft an LD. They will only go LD if its the clear best prospect available, and that won't be the case with Demidov/Lindstrom there.
 
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Kudo Shinichi said:
We aren't picking Buium if Demidov/Lindstrom is there

Kent Hughes was pretty clear he did not want to draft an LD. They will only go LD if its the clear best prospect available, and that won't be the case with Demidov/Lindstrom there.
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What if Lindstrom goes 3rd and Demidov 4th ? Levshunov is gone 2nd... Buiim seems like à no brainer. Top pair D > 1B Winger
 
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SOLR said:
I just think Matheson has greater responsibilities than Suzuki, thus his IQ is more tested. Not saying IQ is not Suzuki strength just would rank him under Matheson on overall game comprehension right now.
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My two cents on this whole thing. I've always seen Suzuki as a high IQ player, Matheson not so much. Matheson's skating is sublime. He can make a mistake and outskate an opposing player back to his own end. We've seen him do that before.

As for being more IQ tested, I'd say Suzuki's been far more successful on that front. He may not be a 100 point player but he's got strong two way play. Matheson shouldn't be a number one pairing blueliner. He's got great skills and can put pucks in the net but his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

Anyways, this probably isn't the thread for this conversation. But it's an interesting foil to look at this vs the upcoming draft from the perspective of physical ability vs IQ. To me, Matheson's success is borne out of his skating. He's one of the best in the NHL and it's served him (and us) really well. He's taken far too much abuse here but I wouldn't call him a high IQ player. I would with Suzuki.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
No you're not the only one, he has gotten a lot of flack because people don't want to understand that his profile is very good and attractive. They just wanna throw him out the window because he's a late riser and because Kotkaniemi didn't work, no late riser can ever work again.
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I think it's totally fair for people to be skeptical of him. He doesn't have the resume of others. I think some people have gone overboard with their skeptism but I can understand why they feel that way.

Personally, I like the potential. I also feel comfortable with the coaching we have now and feel like St Louis has proven his ability to develop talent. A big strong forward with skill? I'd be more than willing to gamble on that.
 
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Kaiden Ghoul said:
What if Lindstrom goes 3rd and Demidov 4th ? Levshunov is gone 2nd... Buiim seems like à no brainer. Top pair D > 1B Winger
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That's Buium's upside and it takes into account the aforementioned inflated point totals... which means you have to take into account the downside of him falling short of that. Also consider that he's not particularly the right size and we already have Hutson who is further along his development trajectory. I think they'd have to see something special in him to bee-line for him when the team has gaps at RD and Forward.
 
1000eeer said:
If I’m Kent Hughes,

There’s no way I’m gambling on lindstrom with the 5th pick OA.

It’s either Demidov or Buium or Dickinson.

It’s called risk management.
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Lindstrom's back scares me. And his "oh no big deal I just lost all feeling in the right side of my body and I can no longer see the colour green" type comments did nothing but amplify this for me.

But neither Buium nor Dickonson is a fit for us. That's not happening. It's going to be a forward or (by miracle Levshunov is available) we take a RD.
 
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