HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Doublechin]

The top ten this year is extremely hard

1. Macklin
2. Demidov
3. Levshunov
4. Lindstrom
5. Buium
6. Dickinson
7. Silyaev
8. Iginla
9. Sennecke
10. Parekh
11. Catton
12. Helenius
13. Yakemchuk
14. Stolberg
15. MBN
16. Luchanko

Might be my current top 16 and what I see as the cream of the crop

 

[Andrei79]

Are you talking about 6.3 Auston Matthews and 6.4 Joe Thornton in the playoffs?

Cause in their career they imposed nothing in the playoffs.

On the other hand, Smurf like St Louis Lane , Yzerman, Naslund , Marchesseaut etc etc completely lost them in the dust in the playoffs

I don't think anyone ever mentioned no smaller player can ever be good in the post-season or that big players are all performers. It's weird to even have to mention it. Like, we all follow hockey and we know who performs and what their sizes are. In any case, I was specifying to another poster what the concerns about size usually were, not making any argument, so I'm not even sure what you're replying to.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

My list
1. Mack
2. Demidov
3. Catton
4. Iginla
5. Lindstrom
6. Sennecke
7. Buium
8. Dickinson
9. Levshunov
10. Solberg

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I don't think I've seen as big a gap between tools and production as I see with Parascak. He must just have a once in a lifetime brain because I truly don't understand how he does it.

 

[Trabdy2]

My final top 32:

1 Celebrini
2 Demidov
3 Levshunov
4 Catton
5 Lindstrom
6 Sennecke
7 Parekh
8 Buium
9 Dickinson
10 Iginla
11 Silayev
12 Helenius
13 Yakemchuk
14 Eiserman
15 Brandsegg-Nygard
16 Greentree
17 Basha
18 Hage
19 Chernyshov
20 Luchanko
21 Boisvert
22 Jiricek
23 Stiga
24 Artamonov
25 Ritchie
26 Brunicke
27 Solberg
28 Beaudoin
29 Vanacker
30 Hemming
31 Danford
32 Elick

 

[sampollock]

#5
Lidstrom

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Imma hope NHL teams above the Habs love them some of that D, more than our lot here anyway.

Here's my top 10. Calling them by their eventual locker room nicknames.

Mack
Ives
Zeever
Berks
T
Sammy
Ants
Brandy
Carts
Arty

Note that Kay and Becks are not in there out of respect to lack of ideal viewings.

 

[Naslund]

My list, for the 5th overall pick for the Habs. I'm assuming Celebrini and Lev are gone.
1. Iginla
2. Demidov
3. Sennecke
4. Dickinson
5. Parekh

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out we had that two week long '' crap, getting Lindstrom isn't possible anymore, what do we do now ?'' post combine drama, only for him to not only be there at #5 , but to not even be one of the first three forwards picked that day ?

 

[Naslund]

Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out we had that two week long '' crap, getting Lindstrom isn't possible anymore, what do we do now ?'' post combine drama, only for him to not only be there at #5 , but to not even be one of the first three forwards picked that day ?

For me, it would be a relief for the Habs to pass on him. Not a popular opinion I know. Time will tell.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

It seems like Ducks and Jackets aren't particularly interested in drafting Demidov, so if hawks take Levshunov, which I think they will, then Demidov will be there at 5.

However, if the habs draft, goes the same it did the last 2 years, the habs will pass on the fans' favourite prospect (Wright, Michkov, Demidov) and pick someone else (Slaf, Reinbacher, Sennecke) lol

 

[ryan callahan]

I still am flabbergasted at the thought that Helenius is a small player at 5'11 189 but Iginla gets a ''big'' ''gritty'' powerforward reputation at 6'0 191, when really he is smaller than Helenius. Also Sennecke and Catton are crazy overrated. Sennecke cannot skate and is clunky as hell and Catton is a Keller type where he is gonna be a good player on a bad team.

 

[Naslund]

I still am flabbergasted at the thought that Helenius is a small player at 5'11 189 but Iginla gets a ''big'' ''gritty'' powerforward reputation at 6'0 191, when really he is smaller than Helenius. Also Sennecke and Catton are crazy overrated. Sennecke cannot skate and is clunky as hell and Catton is a Keller type where he is gonna be a good player on a bad team.

I think it's not the size difference per se, but more the way Iggy plays the game. Playing inside the crease and in the corners, relentless pursuit of the puck, high energy all over the ice. Iggy plays the game like Gallagher, but with talent.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

If Anaheim is set on a D, I'm sure theyd be willing to trade the 3rd OA for the 5th OA+

 

[The Great Weal]

Catton is a Keller type where he is gonna be a good player on a bad team.

Keller is an excellent player, not his fault he's stuck on a dog shit team. You'd be a fool not to trade the 5th OA for Keller if you want to improve the team. Catton doesn't have Keller's skating in my opinion so I don't think he'll be as good.

 

[Deebs]

If Anaheim is set on a D, I'm sure theyd be willing to trade the 3rd OA for the 5th OA+

Very possible. So what's the price....our 2nd rounder...the #26?

 

[McGees]

I think it's not the size difference per se, but more the way Iggy plays the game. Playing inside the crease and in the corners, relentless pursuit of the puck, high energy all over the ice. Iggy plays the game like Gallagher, but with talent.

Helenius is also a gritty player and plays very similar. Biggest difference is Iggy's shot I think and maybe Helenius higher IQ/200 ft game.

 

[sheed36]

Likely already posted somewhere on this board today but a mock draft from earlier today over at Montreal Hockey Now.

They have the Habs taking Demidov @ 5 and Hemming @ 26.

Top 10
1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Silayev
4. Lindstrom
5. Demidov
6. Sennecke
7. Parekh
8. Buium
9. Dickinson
10. Iginla

Full article.

MHN 2024 NHL Mock Draft: First-Round Picks (No.1-No.32)

The 2024 NHL Entry Draft is expected to be a wild weekend filled with unpredictable decisions. With NHL betting odds pegging Macklin Celebrini as the uncontested 1st-overall pick, the draft can seemingly go in any direction as of the 2nd overall pick. Writers Marco D’Amico and Franck Bernard...

montrealhockeynow.com

 

[Trabdy2]

I think it's not the size difference per se, but more the way Iggy plays the game. Playing inside the crease and in the corners, relentless pursuit of the puck, high energy all over the ice. Iggy plays the game like Gallagher, but with talent.

I think Iginla stands out for me above Helenius, because he has one true high end hockey tool: his shot.

Helenius strikes me more as a jack-of-all-trades, master of none, but he will likely be able to play as a center.

I think both will be NHL players, but I feel like a player like Iginla is harder to find in the NHL.

 

[Naslund]

I think Iginla stands out for me above Helenius, because he has one true high end hockey tool: his shot.

Helenius strikes me more as a jack-of-all-trades, master of none, but he will likely be able to play as a center.

I think both will be NHL players, but I feel like a player like Iginla is harder to find in the NHL.

Yes, Iggy's shot is special. However, he has other high-end hockey tools.

 

[ryan callahan]

Keller is an excellent player, not his fault he's stuck on a dog shit team. You'd be a fool not to trade the 5th OA for Keller if you want to improve the team. Catton doesn't have Keller's skating in my opinion so I don't think he'll be as good.

Keller is a -61 for his career with incredibly favorable usage and has single digit playoff games. Good players make themselves look good. Great players elevate players around them. Keller fits in this category. I don't think he has really ever made someone around him significantly better.

 

[The Great Weal]

Keller is a -61 for his career with incredibly favorable usage and has single digit playoff games.

Dahlin is -69 in his career with no playoff games. Again, not their fault that the rest of their respective teams suck.

Good players make themselves look good. Great players elevate players around them. Keller fits in this category. I don't think he has really ever made someone around him significantly better.

Keller has made every Coyote forward play significantly better. I've watched a decent amount of Yotes games in the past 3 seasons to know that what you're saying is wrong. Keller is a stud and we'd be lucky to draft a froward as good as him.

 

[ryan callahan]

Dahlin is -69 in his career with no playoff games. Again, not their fault that the rest of their respective teams suck.

Keller has made every Coyote forward play significantly better. I've watched a decent amount of Yotes games in the past 3 seasons to know that what you're saying is wrong. Keller is a stud and we'd be lucky to draft a froward as good as him.

Agree to disagree then. Dahlin also has to improve his defensive play imo to make the Sabres a winning team. Sabres top players sometimes play for themselves too much and it shows in their gargantuan goals allowed stat. Top players make their teams top, no excuses to get caved in or be average at 5v5 like that with favorable usage.

 

[The Great Weal]

Agree to disagree then. Dahlin also has to improve his defensive play imo to make the Sabres a winning team. Sabres top players sometimes play for themselves too much and it shows in their gargantuan goals allowed stat.

When McDavid and Draisaitl were top 4 in points in the league with a collective +5, were they not players that significantly improved their team even if they didn't make the playoffs?

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I still am flabbergasted at the thought that Helenius is a small player at 5'11 189 but Iginla gets a ''big'' ''gritty'' powerforward reputation at 6'0 191, when really he is smaller than Helenius. Also Sennecke and Catton are crazy overrated. Sennecke cannot skate and is clunky as hell and Catton is a Keller type where he is gonna be a good player on a bad team.

So 5'11">6'0" and 189>191? That's an interesting bit of math there.