HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[The Gr8 Dane]

Makes sense

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Imagine

 

[jaffy27]

Their dinners were all forwards, fans seem to think it's forward and Waddell mentioned getting goals is the most difficult thing

Someone should tell Waddell you’ll get more goals when your backend can orchestrate offense…..A #1 D is as crucial as a #1 PG

 

[The Great Weal]

Someone should tell Waddell you’ll get more goals when your backend can orchestrate offense…..A #1 D is as crucial as a #1 PG

Since coming into the league, Zach Werenski is 20th in points for defensemen while playing for a team that isn't good offensively. Mateychuk led the WHL in points/game for dmen. Not to mention that Jiricek isn't exactly a slouch, so not sure why they'd be pressed for an offensive dman.

 

[Jaynki]

Trade that 5th + Xhekaj for Buffalo's 11th + Peterka...
Pick the BPA at 11th... It'll be a good player

Well.

Imagine keeping Xhekaj and drafting a better player at 5 then at 11!

 

[jaffy27]

Since coming into the league, Zach Werenski is 20th in points for defensemen while playing for a team that isn't good offensively. Mateychuk led the WHL in points/game for dmen. Not to mention that Jiricek isn't exactly a slouch, so not sure why they'd be pressed for an offensive dman.

It’s not just about points but moving that puck forward……maybe they are not as good as you think…..Buium, Parekh are great options for puck movers AND can put up points

Makes sense

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Just a sec….did we just pass over Demidov for Iginla

 

[Archijerej]

I would imagine medical staffs know all this, so presumably the team that picks him will have ranked him high enough above their next rated player that they believe he's worth the risk (whatever their medical staffs determine the risks to be), whether at 2nd overall or 20th. He may or may not prove to be worth the risk or the right choice, but there's no way teams aren't aware of the issues (more aware than we are because they have the full reports and presumably access to the player) and there's no way they're not including the information into their decision making process.

At some point he's worth the risk. Who knows what that point is? There seem to be a tonne of good options at 5, so if Lindstrom is the pick, you have to assume that the medical staff has determined that the risks are minimal or the scouts like/love him enough to make management take the risk. I think we can always second guess the scouts, but it would be pretty arrogant to second guess the medical staff based on incomplete information (a two word diagnosis vs medical reports and potentially physicals with team doctors).

At some point, sure. I just don't necessarily feel comfortable investing the 5th OA pick. We're not going to have many more of those.

 

[jaffy27]

At some point, sure. I just don't necessarily feel comfortable investing the 5th OA pick. We're not going to have many more of those.

Investing?

 

[Archijerej]

Investing?

No hablo ingles.

 

[The Great Weal]

It’s not just about points but moving that puck forward……maybe they are not as good as you think…..Buium, Parekh are great options for puck movers AND can put up points

Werenski is definitely an excellent puck mover and has put up good points in the NHL, something Buium/Parekh haven't done. Mateychuk absolutely is a high end puck mover and dominated the WHL. Why would these two players not be as good as I think but the less proven Buium and Parekh are better options? If anything, Columbus could use more of a 2way/defensive dman that has a physical edge. Jiricek is a good start but he's pretty much the only one from their projected top 4.

 

[Jaynki]

Just a sec….did we just pass over Demidov for Iginla

I mean, i would also prefer Demidov, but no problem if we pick Tij above him personally, if we have the choice between them both.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

Do we know why Columbus is dead set at getting a forward at #4?

My guess is to help get Little Johnny going. He's struggled there and they're paying him a ton of money.

 

[Team_Spirit]

They don't make em like they used to

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801993070923116965

 

[Deebs]

They don't make em like they used to

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801993070923116965

One of my heroes growing up.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

They don't make em like they used to

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801993070923116965

Bro got drafted on his 32nd birthday

 

[Balthazar]

Bro got drafted on his 32nd birthday

Still looks younger than Levshunov.

 

[FormerLurker]

"Hold my next patient, MrB1P made a ridiculous claim again and I have to remind him of the time he overhyped Josh Brook"

I took my son to see Brook's first pro game, partly on the basis of that over-hyping!!

 

[McGuires Corndog]

"Hold my next patient, MrB1P made a ridiculous claim again and I have to remind him of the time he overhyped Josh Brook"

This is actually hilarious.

 

[HabsCode]

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Lindstrom
4. Iginla

What do?

 

[Skip Bayless]

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Lindstrom
4. Iginla

What do?

Pick the best D in the draft (Zeev Buium) or trade down if possible.

 

[The Last Red]

Why would you even think that? Every serious mock draft and expert that covered the combine have them interested in Lindstrom or Sennecke. Their fanbase is also certain that they are going with a forward, some even switched from Lindstrom to Iginla after yesterday's herniated disc news.

Waddell has drafted a forward in the first round the last 4 years. Pattern?

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Werenski/Jiricek/Mateychuk/Severson will be there for a very long time so there's really no room in that top 4. Only reason for them to go with a dman is if they trade Mateychuk for a forward, but that forward might not be better than the forward that will be available to them at 4 in this draft.

Considering many D drafted usually don’t see the nhl for 2-3 years I do t think that should be too big an issue

 

[Kent Nilsson]

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Lindstrom
4. Iginla

What do?

Levshunov or Sennecke

 

[The Last Red]

Yeah, actually. When discussing a health issue on a message board, I'd take a doctor's opinion over 90% of other participants. I know it sounds wild, but yeah.

It’s not wild, just misinformed. Lindstrom has a condition that neurosurgeons are best equipped to opine on, not ER doctors, et al. He doesn’t have a gunshot wound.

 

[Genghis Keon]

At some point, sure. I just don't necessarily feel comfortable investing the 5th OA pick. We're not going to have many more of those.

If I were making the pick with the info I have (basically a herniated disc caused him to miss games and kept him out of some combine testing, his doctor and agent say it's not or won't be a long term issue) and the resources I have (basically Google and unconfirmed medical professionals posting on hfboards), I wouldn't be comfortable picking him 5th either. I don't think many with the same limited info and limited resources would be comfortable either, including HuGo presumably.

But the teams have significantly more info and significantly more resources to gather more info and interpret the information. So if the Habs end up picking him at 5, I can do nothing but assume they and their medical staff did their due diligence (I don't think they think we have many more high picks either).

I might disagree with the pick for hockey reasons because I can watch him play, look at the data available, and form my own opinions. But I don't think I would legitimately be able to disagree with the pick for medical reasons because I have no where near the information or medical resources the Habs have.

 

[The Last Red]

If I were making the pick with the info I have (basically a herniated disc caused him to miss games and kept him out of some combine testing, his doctor and agent say it's not or won't be a long term issue) and the resources I have (basically Google and unconfirmed medical professionals posting on hfboards), I wouldn't be comfortable picking him 5th either. I don't think many with the same limited info and limited resources would be comfortable either, including HuGo presumably.

But the teams have significantly more info and significantly more resources to gather more info and interpret the information. So if the Habs end up picking him at 5, I can do nothing but assume they and their medical staff did their due diligence (I don't think they think we have many more high picks either).

I might disagree with the pick for hockey reasons because I can watch him play, look at the data available, and form my own opinions. But I don't think I would legitimately be able to disagree with the pick for medical reasons because I have no where near the information or medical resources the Habs have.

You make sense. Please find another board to post on.