HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Skip Bayless]

Make it 3 Skip

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Gahd damn.

That's three whole mfers.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Of course.

But the kid plays a very physical game in a very physical sport and has already been sidelined many months because of it.

This not a benign thing here, obviously. It must have been very symptomatic if it meant the kid had to miss playoffs and Canada U18 because of it in the most important year of his young career, his draft year.

Nothing is of course 100% and I wish him the best, but this is a significant injury that is a big red flag.

Many players needed to retire because of herniated discs.

I don't know a single doctor or physio in the world that would look at this kid's MRI and be able to say 100% it won't cause problem in the future, no matter what it looks like.

Like I said, there are many others very good players from #2-12 in this draft, and margins between them are razor thin. This is enough for me to say you don't gamble on that and you pick someone else. At #15-20? Sure, if he's by far the best talent.

He's no Bedard or McKenna.

Of course I wish him the best and hope he has a great, healthy career. Still would not risk it at #5 OA.

There’s enough uncertainty with healthy draft picks!

With the back, everything’s a little uncertain.

They can say it can be treated non-surgically, like most can, but have it reoccur down the road.

 

[Andrei79]

Yeah, I'm dumbass that knows nothing. Only been dealing with those patients for 15 years. You know better for sure.

Don't worry, I've had posters here literally try to educate me on what I do for a living. It's the nature of the internet, I get a good chuckle out of it and try not to flash my credentials as it's not worth it. That said, so many MDs on these boards. I know of at least 5 on HF. Maybe that's the issue with HFhabs

 

[MasterMatt25]

Anaheim is leaning towards Silayev and Yakemchuk right?

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Anaheim is leaning towards Silayev and Yakemchuk right?

According to mccagg they're leaning towards sennecke and yakemchuk. Apparently Verbeek isn't too fond of Russian players lol

 

[WeThreeKings]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801346288178352630

 

[Ozmodiar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801346288178352630

The Blackhawks have their own Dregs.

 

[jaffy27]

Make it 3 Skip

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Now there’s a playoff warrior if I’ve ever seen one……

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I trust our medical staff to do all the due diligence possible on Lindstrom. If there's legit concern, they'll just go in a different direction. Plenty of good prospects at #5.

 

[Rapala]

If you have players in front of him on your list and you skip them to take him because you don’t want to pass on ‘’genes’’ it isn’t the thing to do.

Why even bring that up then it's a no brainer?
It's just one of many boxes that can have an impact on the total value of the pick.
My take on Iginla hasn't changed he's a very good fit for what we need going forward.
I'm not convinced Demidov or even Lindstrom check all the boxes Tij does including genes and or environmental influence.
I just think Iginla will end up being the best complete package which includes durability.

 

[Saundies]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801346288178352630

Let these other teams worship false idols (prospects). Keep faith in the Demigod and his foretold coming will commence!

Praise be to Demigod!

And yeah that Lindstrom injury does scare me. He's still young but who knows.

 

[Rapala]

Interesting blog about herniated discs and hockey players. The Lumbar Disc Herniation & Hockey Athletes - Remi Sovran

The prognosis is rather discouraging, though who knows, perhaps orthopedics will get better over time.

One wrong jar and it doesn't have to be a violent one can cost a season. I can't see us touching that given our recent history with man games lost.
We still don't have a handle on Kirby Dach's durability despite what some may think.

 

[Genghis Keon]

I trust our medical staff to do all the due diligence possible on Lindstrom. If there's legit concern, they'll just go in a different direction. Plenty of good prospects at #5.

I agree. All teams have medical staffs, actually have access to all the medical reports, and are obviously more invested and have more riding on their picks than we do as fans. You have to assume if he's available at 5 and he's the pick, they don't think it's an issue or have done the calculus that their forecasted outcome of him is high enough above their next ranked player's forecasted outcome to be worth the risk, whatever they determine the risk to be. Now they might end up being wrong, but that wouldn't change the fact that they have medical expertise, access to the information, and a tonne riding on the success of the pick, so wouldn't select damaged goods on a whim.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Don't worry, I've had posters here literally try to educate me on what I do for a living. It's the nature of the internet, I get a good chuckle out of it and try not to flash my credentials as it's not worth it. That said, so many MDs on these boards. I know of at least 5 on HF. Maybe that's the issue with HFhabs

Great humility often goes hand in hand with expertise (and vice versa). Many of the physicians I work with are very circumspect in the manner that characterizes you as well, to your credit.

 

[The Real Timo]

I too am a doctor.
An armchair draft doctor.
Prognosis?
Drink lots of water and Draft Lindstrom

Agreed. Should be able to walk it off.

 

[Rapala]

There's no point being hysterical about a herniated disk if we don't know the severity or the location.

It's as vague as the term 'ligament injury'.

Could mean anything or nothing.

Yeah but you'd much rather draft a player who doesn't have one.
We already know after Celebrini anything can happen and the scouts are all over the place.
How much better will Lindstrom have to be perceived to take a chance on him over one of the other players who is in that same tier?

 

[Gally11]

Yeah, I'm dumbass that knows nothing. Only been dealing with those patients for 15 years. You know better for sure.

Thanks for what you do, I don’t feel like enough people appreciate that lately.

 

[Seb]

Don't worry, I've had posters here literally try to educate me on what I do for a living. It's the nature of the internet, I get a good chuckle out of it and try not to flash my credentials as it's not worth it. That said, so many MDs on these boards. I know of at least 5 on HF. Maybe that's the issue with HFhabs

I know only of @Harry22

 

[Schooner Guy]

I am an ER physician and let me tell you that an lumbar herniated disc, with or without surgery, can cause problems to even do basic life stuff like walking and lying down.

A hockey player that is already sidelined at 18 and that misses almost half a season because of it is a very, very bad sign.

Possible career ending kind of problem for a hockey player. I'd not gamble it at #5, especially in a loaded draft with a lot of nice options.

He missed half the season after injuring his hand in practice and having hand surgery. His back issue came to light when he returned.

Lots of posters who don't follow the top prospects closely all year come in here seemingly knowing everything as we get closer to the draft. It must be frustrating to have people showing up your ER who know everything about their issue because of what they read on their phone in the waiting room.

 

[sampollock]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801624042559955400

This may have already been mentioned, this thread is hard to keep up with.

Hmmmm. Hope he is ok

 

[Benstheman]

Sennecke/Demidov seems to be the obvious choice here. And I would be ok with it.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Lots of talk about Lindstrom's back but nobody seems concerned about Demidov's knee that ended his season and that he traveled to Miami to have evaluated last week.

 

[Agalloch]

I want Demidov or Sennecke.

 

[Michoulicious]

He missed half the season after injuring his hand in practice and having hand surgery. His back issue came to light when he returned.

Lots of posters who don't follow the top prospects closely all year come in here seemingly knowing everything as we get closer to the draft. It must be frustrating to have people showing up your ER who know everything about their issue because of what they read on their phone in the waiting room.

Pronman is the first one who said his back problem is in fact a herniated disk. Before all we heard is he had a "back injury". The back was always the big concern, nobody cared about the healing of the hand, really.

He didn't go to U18 because of it.

"Lindstrom had dealt with multiple injuries in the second half of the season. He broke a hand in the middle of the season, and has also been dealing with symptoms of a back injury. Lindstrom returned in time for Game 1 of Medicine Hat’s playoff opener but looked off in the series."

If that is true and those back issues are indeed related to that kind of injury, all I am saying is it is certainly concerning if you plan to make the guy your top pick in what looks to be a very good draft.

Like I said, I wish the best to the kid.

 

[Zilo44]

Pronman is the first one who said his back problem is in fact a herniated disk. Before all we heard is he had a "back injury". The back was always the big concern, nobody cared about the healing of the hand, really.

He didn't go to U18 because of it.

"Lindstrom had dealt with multiple injuries in the second half of the season. He broke a hand in the middle of the season, and has also been dealing with symptoms of a back injury. Lindstrom returned in time for Game 1 of Medicine Hat’s playoff opener but looked off in the series."

If that is true and those back issues are indeed related to that kind of injury, all I am saying is it is certainly concerning if you plan to make the guy your top pick in what looks to be a very good draft.

Like I said, I wish the best to the kid.

Go safe and pick Iginla if it’s worrisome