HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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BeliveauFan4ever

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Me too. 2025 has Hagens Ryabkin Frondell Martone and I'd have a hard time picking any forward not named Celebrini over these guys and even then.
Question for you. Habs have - if I read things right - have seven picks in the first three rounds of 2025.

Let’s say they pick 12th.

Would you lean toward moving/bundling that
No. 12 ( with a 2nd, and/or a young D) for an established player?

I just can’t imagine they’d hang on to all seven.
 

Habs7631

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Question for you. Habs have - if I read things right - have seven picks in the first three rounds of 2025.

Let’s say they pick 12th.

Would you lean toward moving/bundling that
No. 12 ( with a 2nd, and/or a young D) for an established player?

I just can’t imagine they’d hang on to all seven.

Package them all to move up.

Package our 25 1st with CAL/FLA 1st to move into the top 10

Package all the seconds and the 3rd to move up too, turn them into 1st.

We have a very good young core and we’re gonna add even more this year.

At some point just consolidate and go for quality over quantity.

When our core will be in their prime making big money, we need as much talent on ELC contract as we can to extend the window.
 

BeliveauFan4ever

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Package them all to move up.

Package our 25 1st with CAL/FLA 1st to move into the top 10

Package all the seconds and the 3rd to move up too, turn them into 1st.

We have a very good young core and we’re gonna add even more this year.

At some point just consolidate and go for quality over quantity.

When our core will be in their prime making big money, we need as much talent on ELC contract as we can to extend the windows.
Sure feels like it would be the right time to move draft picks with rebuilding-time being of the essence and owning that kind of bundle.

I’d normally be opposed, and love the fact they have that bundle, but parting with two of 7, still leaves 5 in the first three rounds.
 

Habs7631

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+1 on Parekh, but I assumed he wouldn't last that long. I would consider him with the fifth pick. The offense and IQ are really something.

I had hope that his defensive flaws would drop him into the teens but after seeing how high he seems on a lot of draft mocks that came out recently I think he won’t fall too far sadly.
 

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Man, I absolutely hate HF from the 'after the season but before the draft' time period lol..

It's gone from
'Pffff EASY pick for Chicago @ 2, Demidov, lock.'
To
'Whoa Demidov fell and is there at 5, the Habs pick, ARE WE SURE HE'S THE GUY?? HMMM'

It's just unreal lol

If Demidov is somehow there at 5, they will take him. Let's stop this lol

It’s the worst lol
 
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dinodebino

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I think this draft is similar to 2008 in terms of defencemen.

Doughty, Pietro, Karlsson, Josi, Carlson, and to a lesser extent, Bogosian, Schenn, Myers.

All came out of that draft. This set up has the same feel, and I think 4 or 5 of these guys could end up threatening for a Norris at some point in their career. It wasn't a very strong draft for forwards outside of Stamkos.

I just hope that if we end up with Demidov that he is not our version of Nikita Filatov.

Drafts can be such a crapshoot!
That was an AMAZING draft!
 
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Question for you. Habs have - if I read things right - have seven picks in the first three rounds of 2025.

Let’s say they pick 12th.

Would you lean toward moving/bundling that
No. 12 ( with a 2nd, and/or a young D) for an established player?

I just can’t imagine they’d hang on to all seven.

We have seven picks right now for 2025....with Savard, Dvorak, Armia, Evans, Pezzetta and Kovacevic in their last year of contract before turning UFA, we should have a whole lot more picks than seven by then.
 

salbutera

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I think this draft is similar to 2008 in terms of defencemen.

Doughty, Pietro, Karlsson, Josi, Carlson, and to a lesser extent, Bogosian, Schenn, Myers.

All came out of that draft. This set up has the same feel, and I think 4 or 5 of these guys could end up threatening for a Norris at some point in their career. It wasn't a very strong draft for forwards outside of Stamkos.

I just hope that if we end up with Demidov that he is not our version of Nikita Filatov.

Drafts can be such a crapshoot!
Iirc 2OA - 5OA: Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn

Josi..2nd rounder

Drafting 18-year olds is an inexact science at the best of times, now throw in the job security or lack thereof aspect for hockey ops types, to better understand why they prefer the safer picks…
 
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Habs7631

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Sure feels like it would be the right time to move draft picks with rebuilding-time being of the essence and owning that kind of bundle.

I’d normally be opposed, and love the fact they have that bundle, but parting with two of 7, still leaves 5 in the first three rounds.
We have seven picks right now for 2025....with Savard, Dvorak, Armia, Evans, Pezzetta and Kovacevic in their last year of contract before turning UFA, we should have a whole lot more picks than seven by then.


Ok how about this.

We have 2 1st next year and 7 picks in the first 3 rounds. We have 12 picks in total so far.

Consolidate all our picks next year and trade for #1 to draft James Hagens.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Dach - Hagens - Demidov
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Ca sent la coupe

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BeliveauFan4ever

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Ok how about this.

We have 2 1st next year and 7 picks in the first 3 rounds. We have 12 picks in total so far.

Consolidate all our picks next year and trade for #1 to draft James Hagens.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Dach - Hagens - Demidov
Newhook - Beck - Roy

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Guess I better Youtube Hagens. Must have mad skills.

Earlier looked him up and he’s 5’9.

I like Porter Martone.
 

salbutera

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Outstanding article by MA Godin IMO, and it lends itself to this draft post Celebrini - the fan / media debate looking at a prospect thru the prism of multitude high end skill set attributes vs a real hockey player
 

AHShadow

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They're different because no one has said we aren't interested, most people connected still see us selecting Demidov just not that it's the slam dunk they originally thought.

I don't like the direction we are going though. It could become just like Michkov.



I think Demidov is closer to 6' than 5'10 but hey anyone can convince themselves out of a great offensive player if they want. They did it once for the best defenseman who had Size poise and a preferred handedness last year. I can't get behind it this year for the 3rd best defenseman especially when one is just the wish version of Hutson offensively and isn't particularly studly on the defensive side.
Would it be more palatable if we drafted for Parekh instead?

I'd be pretty pissed if we skip on a potential superstar winger again when we need offensive power in our top 6, but getting the potential best offensive defensemen of the class is not a bad consolation prize?

I just don't know who we play on PP1. Do we just put both Hutson and Parekh? When was the last time a team had 2 really good offensive defensemen in their lineup? Preds with Josi and Subban?

I'm trying to play gymnastics in my head and convince myself it's "fine" if Demidov is skipped on, but man I just hope Hughes doesn't overthink it this year.
 

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With all the draft capital in the coming years they will package those picks for sure but it won't just be for higher picks, it will be for young players closer to making it to the NHL. Utah is ripe for the picking.
 
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Man, I absolutely hate HF from the 'after the season but before the draft' time period lol..

It's gone from
'Pffff EASY pick for Chicago @ 2, Demidov, lock.'
To
'Whoa Demidov fell and is there at 5, the Habs pick, ARE WE SURE HE'S THE GUY?? HMMM'

It's just unreal lol

If Demidov is somehow there at 5, they will take him. Let's stop this lol
I mostly agree, but if Lindstrom and Demidov are both available, there's a chance Demidov isn't picked.
 
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Riggins

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Helenius getting overlooked. Prepare yourselves muchachos.

I wouldn't mind it in an alternate universe, but only if we had live footage of @KevSkillz4 smashing everything in his house as @Goldenhands celebrates.

I can't believe this is still 2.5 weeks away. The wait is brutal. And it won't be until draft week for the final McKenzie rankings and Pronman's final mock which he has nailed recently.
 

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Basu suggests that the Habs' invitation to dinner with Eiserman could be a sign that they will try to trade up to a position where he will be available. »


Reach I think Basu

I don't think they would move down later in the top 10 to grab an asset and take one of the best wingers available, either Tij Iginla or Beckett Sennecke, because they view the number five pick as an opportunity to Adding an important piece into their rebuild, and trading down would decrease the likelihood of that player being an important piece. » - Arpon Basu
I’m all for it.

Difficult to see it happening but adding say… Lidstrom and Eiserman would be incredible.
 

le_sean

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Seems to just be the Russian factor again, SKA can basically f*** his development next year by forcing him into the MHL if he doesn't extend. Then there's the skating not being the best and of course the small winger piece.

I just don't buy it this time, Michkov it made more sense because he already was there long term, and there were legit smoke about him as a teammate and coachability. Nothing like that here.
Arpon said both the Sharks and Habs had hockey reasons to pass over Michkov. Arizona because he had no interest in meeting them.

He’s not as infallible as a lot of posters make him out to be.
 
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