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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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Habs Icing

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All Canadians should be as fluently bilingual as this kid but our school system sucks so most Canadians can't even speak their mother tongue properly. I can remember seeing an interview with an Iraqi immigrant. When asked about the flaws of Canadian schools he brought that up. Said Iraqi schools were behind Canadian schools in so many areas except in the teaching of languages. With the two official languages and all the immigrants in this country, Canucks should be like Europeans and speak several languages or at least two. But no, we decided to go the American route.

Okay, my rant is over. I promise to go back to my stupid remarks.

I'd take Karlsson over Pietrangelo in a redraft, cups or not. He's just a better player. For me it's about the ceiling.
Yeah and that ceiling is leaky.
 

bcv

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You gotta have 5 names if you're picking 5th. I think those names for me are Celebrini, Lindstrom, Buium, Parekh, and Iginla.

Post your 5 names people.

Celebrini
Lindstrom
Demidov
Dickinson (Buium)
Levshunov (Parekh)

In brackets are the players that the habs seem to be in on replacing my personal choices.
 

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All Canadians should be as fluently bilingual as this kid but our school system sucks so most Canadians can't even speak their mother tongue properly. I can remember seeing an interview with an Iraqi immigrant. When asked about the flaws of Canadian schools he brought that up. Said Iraqi schools were behind Canadian schools in so many areas except in the teaching of languages. With the two official languages and all the immigrants in this country, Canucks should be like Europeans and speak several languages or at least two. But no, we decided to go the American route.
Yeah it's beyond me why language education is so bad in Canada but until QC picks up its own general and overall education outcomes we cannot complain.

Bilingualism should be the minimum not a loftly ambition.
 

NotProkofievian

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Yeah it's beyond me why language education is so bad in Canada but until QC picks up its own general and overall education outcomes we cannot complain.

Bilingualism should be the minimum not a loftly ambition.

Bilingualism is a function of necessity, not education. I'm trilingual for shits and giggles essentially, seen 0 payoff for it. I like languages though, so I'm working on a 4th. People will learn a language under exactly two circumstances: they have to, or they want to. Almost always just the first one though.
 

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I'd take Karlsson over Pietrangelo in a redraft, cups or not. He's just a better player. For me it's about the ceiling.
I'd do the same (esp looking at ceiling) but you have to be careful with d-men from Jrs. How they interpret defense will matter a LOT more than their point totals. Dickinson is a better defender and highly productive = it is likelier he does better in the NHL. So imo Parekh's ceiling is below Dickinson's.
 
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waitin425

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Okay, go draft a perfect player then, his name is Macklin.
Do you remember the old HF rankings system? I feel like it would be the best way to rank all of these guys.

Celebrini - 9.5B
Demidov - 9.0C
Dickinson - 8.5A
Levshunov - 8.5B
Parekh - 9.0D
Buium - 8.5C
Lindstrom - 9.0C
Iginla - 8.0B

Etc, Etc. I didn't think too much on it....but it is an interesting way for people to rationalize their rankings.
 

NotProkofievian

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Do you remember the old HF rankings system? I feel like it would be the best way to rank all of these guys.

Celebrini - 9.5B
Demidov - 9.0C
Dickinson - 8.5A
Levshunov - 8.5B
Parekh - 9.0D
Buium - 8.5C
Lindstrom - 9.0C
Iginla - 8.0B

Etc, Etc. I didn't think too much on it....but it is an interesting way for people to rationalize their rankings.

I remember. Using that system I would have Buium as an A. I'm just so certain about him. 8.5A. somewhere between 1st pairing and Norris winner, but he's going to play and he's going to be good.

Parekh has special offensive talent. I can't think of anyone else better offensively that I've watched in juniors. 9 or 9.5 C. It's only a question of translating his game, he seems like a really good kid.

You can’t be serious. Unless you consider ceiling like a strictly offense thing?

I can't be serious in preferring a 3 time Norris winner? I think I can.

Surely speaking to people who speak those language is a payoff in and of itself?

I like it, of course, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. But my life wouldn't really be different if I didn't learn these languages.
 

Benstheman

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I remember. Using that system I would have Buium as an A. I'm just so certain about him. 8.5A. somewhere between 1st pairing and Norris winner, but he's going to play and he's going to be good.

Parekh has special offensive talent. I can't think of anyone else better offensively that I've watched in juniors. 9 or 9.5 C. It's only a question of translating his game, he seems like a really good kid.



I can't be serious in preferring a 3 time Norris winner? I think I can.



I like it, of course, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. But my life wouldn't really be different if I didn't learn these languages.
Yeah that’s what I thought. We all know Norris = points production.
 

Mrb1p

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You gotta have 5 names if you're picking 5th. I think those names for me are Celebrini, Lindstrom, Buium, Parekh, and Iginla.

Post your 5 names people.
Celebrini
Demidov
Iginla
lindstrom
catton

but "having five names" kind of discredits the group of players available. I have Catton at 5 for us but Buium ranked ahead on my list. I will be happy with the pick regardless, unless its the FTOM pick.
Do you remember the old HF rankings system? I feel like it would be the best way to rank all of these guys.

Celebrini - 9.5B
Demidov - 9.0C
Dickinson - 8.5A
Levshunov - 8.5B
Parekh - 9.0D
Buium - 8.5C
Lindstrom - 9.0C
Iginla - 8.0B

Etc, Etc. I didn't think too much on it....but it is an interesting way for people to rationalize their rankings.
Dickinson is more like a 8 and levshunov a 8.5, the potential is greater in the latter. Buium needs to be a 9 too. Unsure how Lindstrom gets 9, I'm not even sure he's 8.5
 

WeThreeKings

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Athletic staff did a mock draft based on what they heard at the combine/know of their teams.

1 - Celebrini
2 - Levshunov
3 - Silayev
4 - Lindstrom
5 - Demidov

Pronman's analysis of it after speaking with scouts: The first five picks going Celebrini, Levshunov, Silayev, Lindstrom then Demidov seems to be the emerging “chalk” scenario for the somewhat consensus top five prospects. There is plenty of room for surprises in the top five, but this seems to be the most likely scenario. It would also fit how NHL teams tend to prioritize centers and defensemen over wings and players in North America versus Russia.

And an interesting tidbit with our 26th pick:

26. Montreal Canadiens: Andrew Basha, RW, Medicine Hat (WHL)​

I’m not convinced the Canadiens will be making this pick; it will in all likelihood be included in a trade prior to the draft. But if they hang on to it, and he’s still on the board the way he is here, Basha is a player they really like; his speed, compete and motor really pop. The Canadiens met with Basha five times over the course of the season, even after his linemate Cayden Lindstrom was injured, and they see an NHL projectable game. Basha says he can play anywhere in the lineup, from the first line to the fourth, and the Canadiens seem to see something similar. — Arpon Basu
 

NotProkofievian

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Celebrini
Demidov
Iginla
lindstrom
catton

but "having five names" kind of discredits the group of players available. I have Catton at 5 for us but Buium ranked ahead on my list. I will be happy with the pick regardless, unless its the FTOM pick.

Dickinson is more like a 8 and levshunov a 8.5, the potential is greater in the latter. Buium needs to be a 9 too. Unsure how Lindstrom gets 9, I'm not even sure he's 8.5

That's the draft Meng. You can like as many players as you want, but you can only pick one. I don't like leaving Catton or Demidov out of my 5, but it's the way she goes.
 

JeffreyLFC

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How would Catton compare against guys like Seth Jarvis, Zach Benson and Logan Cooley at the same age. How would you rank them..?
He is number 1 for me. This would be my list in their draft year.

1. Catton
2. Benson
3. Cooley
4. Jarvis
 

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