HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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le_sean

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I am all in for a d at 5 : Dickinson or Buium.

However if it's the case we should trade either Matheson or Arber for example to have an other pick in the Top 11.

So NJ at 10th or Buffalo at 11th and we draft one of those 3: Sennecke, Catton or Iginla.

That would be an awesome draft !!
Neither team would want either of those players. And no team would trade that much for either.
 
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Schooner Guy

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I don't think its just his memorial cup although there was a lot of eyes on him there.

Its the overall profile but also the fact that he is a member of the London Knight which is probably the best organisation in the CHL and so many great NHLers have come from this organisation. This teams actually operate like a real professional team.

Dickinson is such an obvious easy pick.
All I'm saying is there wasn't nearly as much top 5 talk around here for him before the Memorial Cup. The same question marks in his play are still there and if he was such an "obvious easy pick", he'd be top 3. He's in that same tier as so many in this draft who could go anywhere from 2-10. Lots of strengths but some question marks too.
 
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MTL Dirty Birdy

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Eiserman & Helenius not getting much buzz it seems. I think both will end up being good players.
I find the lack of real buzz around Helenius reminds me of Dvorsky last year. Another really solid overall center

How are Cgy going to swap 9OA for 4OA? When was the last time a team moved down or even traded a top-5 pick?
Probably when Ottawa and Colorado traded around Duchesne I think. But it wasn’t a draft day trade.
 
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salbutera

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I find the lack of real buzz around Helenius reminds me of Dvorsky last year. Another really solid overall center


Probably when Ottawa and Colorado traded around Duchesne I think. But it wasn’t a draft day trade.
Didn’t that trade happen in Nov (start of the season?). Sens we’re going for it, no one anticipated how it would actually end up w a bottom feeder iirc
 

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Basu just dropped an article, he guesses they would go Lindstrom over Demidov if both available. And a D is very possible if both are gone.

In the unlikely event both of them survive through the first four picks, I would guess (and it is just that, a guess) that the Canadiens would lean toward taking Lindstrom (more on that in a bit). If just one of Lindstrom or Demidov is available at No. 5, that makes the decision somewhat easier for the Canadiens.

But in the equally unlikely event that neither of them is available, I think the Canadiens would lean toward taking a defenceman. And I don’t think they would trade down later in the top 10 to recoup an asset and take one of the top wingers available in either Tij Iginla or Beckett Sennecke, because they view the No. 5 pick as an opportunity to add a significant piece in their rebuild, and trading down would lessen the likelihood that player is a significant piece.

He goes on to mention they like Buium and Parekh a lot! No mention of Dickinson. Maybe we can kill the Iginla and Sennecke debates and start up the Buium vs. Parekh ones.
 

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Basu just dropped an article, he guesses they would go Lindstrom over Demidov if both available. And a D is very possible if both are gone.





He goes on to mention they like Buium and Parekh a lot! No mention of Dickinson. Maybe we can kill the Iginla and Sennecke debates and start up the Buium vs. Parekh ones.
Nobody know for sure in my view.

Very few thought they would go with Slaf and Reinbacher
 

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Basu just dropped an article, he guesses they would go Lindstrom over Demidov if both available. And a D is very possible if both are gone.

He goes on to mention they like Buium and Parekh a lot! No mention of Dickinson. Maybe we can kill the Iginla and Sennecke debates and start up the Buium vs. Parekh ones.


I think we can throw away Basu's articles as predictors at this point, at least until draft week. None of his articles follow any branches of continuity, which is probably the goal for (insert conspiracy theory here).
 
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Hannibal

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Basu said Lindstrom before Demidov and i’m damn happy about it.

And if we go D, better be Dickinson.
 
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MTL Dirty Birdy

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Didn’t that trade happen in Nov (start of the season?). Sens we’re going for it, no one anticipated how it would actually end up w a bottom feeder iirc
I think you’re right man. As I said, it wasn’t draft day trade, but it’s the last time a top five was traded( although not known to be top five at the time). I feel like it’s been close to 20 years since we’ve seen a known top five pick traded. There were the Sdin pick trades and possibly 03 with Fleury? Not sure

Basu said Lindstrom before Demidov and i’m damn happy about it.

And if we go D, better be Dickinson.
After that memorial cup and now his combine testing, I have a feeling Dickinson will go top 4
 

salbutera

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It seems at least somewhat probable that Russian phenom Ivan Demidov could be available for the Canadiens at No. 5, but if that happens, there is some question as to whether they would take him there, depending on who else is available, namely Medicine Hat Tigers centre Cayden Lindstrom.

In the unlikely event both of them survive through the first four picks, I would guess (and it is just that, a guess) that the Canadiens would lean toward taking Lindstrom (more on that in a bit). If just one of Lindstrom or Demidov is available at No. 5, that makes the decision somewhat easier for the Canadiens.
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But in the equally unlikely event that neither of them is available, I think the Canadiens would lean toward taking a defenceman. And I don’t think they would trade down later in the top 10 to recoup an asset and take one of the top wingers available in either Tij Iginla or Beckett Sennecke, because they view the No. 5 pick as an opportunity to add a significant piece in their rebuild, and trading down would lessen the likelihood that player is a significant piece.
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It is worth remembering that Hughes, in stating his preference to draft a forward with the No. 5 pick, prefaced that by saying “all things being equal.”

In the scenario where neither Demidov nor Lindstrom are available at No. 5, I believe that would make all things unequal.

The Canadiens like University of Denver left-shot defenceman Zeev Buium and Saginaw Spirit right-shot defenceman Zayne Parekh a lot, both of whom have a major puck-moving element the Canadiens lack on the blue line aside from Lane Hutson, who is still not a sure thing to hit as an NHL defenceman. I think both Buium and Parekh would be considered at No. 5, though it’s difficult to handicap which one would be preferred despite Parekh having the added bonus of shooting from the right side.
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There are a lot of questions about Demidov, though.

From a strictly hockey standpoint, the Canadiens recognize Demidov has game-breaking qualities they lack in the organization. But there is some doubt about whether his style would translate well to playoff hockey in the NHL
 

TheBuriedHab

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I would hope between Buium and Parekh they'd go Parekh.

Right shot defenseman is weaker than left shot and Parekh simply has the more dynamic tools than Buium.

Guhle-Parekh
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Buium played mostly on the right side this year and thrived. So I'm not counting handedness against him. But I don't think we need RHD over LHD.

Buium-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Xhekaj

I like this top 4 D more for playoffs.
 

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I would hope between Buium and Parekh they'd go Parekh.

Right shot defenseman is weaker than left shot and Parekh simply has the more dynamic tools than Buium.

Guhle-Parekh
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Mailloux

Buium is better on the other side of the puck though, I think he can actually end up a pretty good two way defender. We already have Hutson as an all-offensive option.

I’d definitely go Buium.
 

McGees

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Damn. I do like Buium and there were reports before that they liked Parekh. For some reason I never thought they were truly enamored with Iggy.

Looks like a total toss up if Lindstrom/Demidov are not available.
 
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WeThreeKings

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Buium played mostly on the right side this year and thrived. So I'm not counting handedness against him. But I don't think we need RHD over LHD.

Buium-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Xhekaj

I like this top 4 D more for playoffs.

Engstrom has too, as has other guys but they like to have handedness in it's natural spot wherever possible when building a team.

Buium is better on the other side of the puck though, I think he can actually end up a pretty good two way defender. We already have Hutson as an all-offensive option.

I’d definitely go Buium.

Buium's defensive game is overstated, and Parekh is understated, I think they both have the same question marks defensively.. Buiums game is so similar to Hutsons that Parekhs dimensions are a better add.

Hutson and Parekh on the same blue line seems pretty risky. I'd go Buium too.

Same risk with Buium.
 
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Gally11

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Half of those guys (assuming Xhekaj significantly improves his defensive game) are not who you want on a PK. I don't see it as a championship D at all.

On the flip side the power play would be outrageous and our first PK unit would be elite, all you would need is an average second unit. Not saying it’s what I would do but I can see the appeal.

Also we’d spend a ton of time in O zone 5 on 5
 
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