HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Matteus]

Demidov was taken by Chicago in the mock draft scenario. Lindstrom still on board.

But i don't think the habs pass on Lindstrom if he's still there, i would be surprised he's too much of what they like in a player. Sennecke screams everything they like too.

I also feel they might have Lindstrom higher on their list.

 

[ReHabs]

Lev to CHI
Silayev to ANA
Dickinson to CBJ

Right?

Pretty sure ANA (or MTL) would jump and thank the heavens if they could take Dickinson.

 

[Jaynki]

Pretty sure ANA (or MTL) would jump and thank the heavens if they could take Dickinson.

I would be very surprised if he is available at 5 but if he is, its a no brainer.

Legitimate potential 1D with his profile are 10M players. He is in my opinion a better prospects than anyone in our d-corps not named Hutson. Dont care how good our defenseman pools look like, he would be top of the chain and an overall big improvement.

Demidov was taken by Chicago in the mock draft scenario. Lindstrom still on board.

But i don't think the habs pass on Lindstrom if he's still there, i would be surprised he's too much of what they like in a player. Sennecke screams everything they like too.

I dont think they pass on Lindstrom too, depending on the injury.

We can talk about his linemates and his high shooting percentage.

Potential 1C, oversized, very athletic, paced for 50+ goals in his DY, mean physical presence.

Those are top 3 pick profile in any given year.

Its a gift at 5. Or a poison pill. Depends of the injury.

 

[Lockin17]

 

[ReHabs]

I dont think they pass on Lindstrom too, depending on the injury.

We can talk about his linemates and his high shooting percentage.

Potential 1C, oversized, very athletic, paced for 50+ goals in his DY, mean physical presence.

Those are top 3 pick profile in any given year.

Its a gift at 5. Or a poison pill. Depends of the injury.

I asked around, it's safe to say he's inferior to Leo Carlsson as a prospect. If that's the case, I don't think he's a top3 pick in any given year. There are too many good prospects around to make such claims.

 

[Jaynki]

I asked around, it's safe to say he's inferior to Leo Carlsson as a prospect. If that's the case, I don't think he's a top3 pick in any given year.

Well in any given year except 2023

 

[Lockin17]

Draft Dickinson at #5
Trade Matheson + #26 for a Forward or a top 15 pick

line up defense 2024-2025
Ghule-Reinbacher
Hutson-Savard
Dickinson-Mailloux
Wifi-Struble

 

[Schooner Guy]

I know we have a huge volume of prospects and early round picks and we need to prioritize quality picks but holy smokes it would be interesting to know what kind of offers we'll get at #5 from teams who want to jump up to grab one of the D.

 

[Balthazar]

Draft Dickinson at #5

If Demidov and Lindstrom are gone and Dickinson is available then yes he should be the pick.

Passing on a top dman to draft a lesser winger would be a draft crime. It's easy to trade for top 6 wingers in the NHL when you need one.

 

[jaffy27]

Pretty sure ANA (or MTL) would jump and thank the heavens if they could take Dickinson.

I cannot envision a scenario where I feel disappointed after our pick.

Demidov, Lindstrom and even Sennecke

Dickinson, Lev

It’s a massive win no matter how you look at it…..obviously a grand slam with Demidov but anyone else on my list and I’m cracking open my Yamazaki 12yr old whiskey.

I may even shed a tear lol

If Demidov and Lindstrom are gone and Dickinson is available then yes he should be the pick.

Passing on a top dman to draft a lesser winger would be a draft crime. It's easy to trade for top 6 wingers in the NHL when you need one.

Correct, #1 D usually get locked up for 8yrs

 

[jaffy27]

Draft Dickinson at #5
Trade Matheson + #26 for a Forward or a top 10 pick

line up defense 2024-2025
Ghule-Reinbacher
Hutson-Savard
Dickinson-Mailloux
Wifi-Struble

Yes, but no….

Dickinson is not plying NHL next season and Savard is gone at TDL

 

[SlafySZN]

I would be very surprised if he is available at 5 but if he is, its a no brainer.

Legitimate potential 1D with his profile are 10M players. He is in my opinion a better prospects than anyone in our d-corps not named Hutson. Dont care how good our defenseman pools look like, he would be top of the chain and an overall big improvement.



I dont think they pass on Lindstrom too, depending on the injury.

We can talk about his linemates and his high shooting percentage.

Potential 1C, oversized, very athletic, paced for 50+ goals in his DY, mean physical presence.

Those are top 3 pick profile in any given year.

Its a gift at 5. Or a poison pill. Depends of the injury.

Was he on a hot streak his first 30 games?

Does he look dominant because he’s much stronger than anyone else?

Things teams has to analyze and project.

 

[ReHabs]

I cannot envision a scenario where I feel disappointed after our pick.

This year seems most fun because of how wide open the draft is after 2. It'll go Celebrini, Lev/Dickinson, and then it's open.

I wasn't even that disappointed with Reinbacher (and posted as much on HFBoards during and after the draft). I was personally disappointed because I wanted a high-octane forward prospect Michkov or Benson but Reinbacher himself was a valid, if boring, pick. His D+1 being a dog's breakfast puts a damper on things but he's going to be in Laval next year and likely get back on track.

The only prospects in 2024 that give me doubts (but not enough to dislike if we drafted them) are Silayev, Lindstrom, and Sennecke but as can be seen in the Slafkovsky case I have no idea how to judge hockey IQ so I'm gonna keep mum and only talk about good things!

 

[le_sean]

Yes, but no….

Dickinson is not plying NHL next season and Savard is gone at TDL

I do think Dickinson is playing in the NHL next season. I don’t think you can send him back to the OHL. He has nothing else to show and he’s already 6’3 210lbs.

 

[Garnet76]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I do think Dickinson is playing in the NHL next season. I don’t think you can send him back to the OHL. He has nothing else to show and he’s already 6’3 210lbs.

Agreed. I think ideally you shelter the shit out of him on a third pairing so he can adapt to the pace, but the physical aspect is not going to be much of an issue there.

He’s in that rare mould of D man that can play in the NHL at 18.

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

He’s a couple tiers ahead of Guhle at the same age.

 

[Balthazar]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

Dickinson is significantly better than Guhle at the same age. He has the highest floor in this draft after Celebrini and should become a #1 dman with size and smarts.

 

[1000eeer]

Which team is better long term:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Ignila/Lindstrom - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Kapanen
Tuch - RHP - Heineman

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron


OR

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras/Necas - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Kapanen
Tuch - RHP - Heineman

Dickinson - Mailloux
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron

 

[Balthazar]

Which team is better long term:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Ignila/Lindstrom - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Armia
RHP - Evans - Heineman

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron


OR

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras/Necas - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Armia
RHP - Evans - Heineman

Dickinson - Mailloux
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron

The team at the bottom with Zegras and Dickinson.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lev to CHI
Silayev to ANA
Dickinson to CBJ

Right?

Dickinson/Silayev/Yakemchuk to ANA
Dickinson/Silayev/Lindstrom to CBJ

Would be the considerations you'd need to get Demidov to 5.

I also have the feeling that if Levshunov Lindstrom and Demidov are gone they will pick Dickinson.

And probably will try to get into the mid teens somehow and grab a good forward among the ones left.

I'd be happy with this outcome if it happens.

They won't, the one thing they shut down is they will not be drafting a LD and would trade down in that scenario if it came to it.

 

[le_sean]

Dickinson is significantly better than Guhle at the same age. He has the highest floor in this draft after Celebrini and should become a #1 dman with size and smarts.

If he “should” become a #1, why isn’t he the consensus 2nd rated prospect? In fact, if his upside was 1D with the high likelihood of getting there, the conversation would be him vs Celebrini, like it was for Tavares vs Hedman.

 

[Balthazar]

If he “should” become a #1, why isn’t he the consensus 2nd rated prospect? In fact, if his upside was 1D with the high likelihood of getting there, the conversation would be him vs Celebrini, like it was for Tavares vs Hedman.

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

 

[jaffy27]

I do think Dickinson is playing in the NHL next season. I don’t think you can send him back to the OHL. He has nothing else to show and he’s already 6’3 210lbs.

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

 

[le_sean]

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

It’s not a weird conclusion. You said a 1D with a high chance of getting there. So why isn’t he even the top rated D in this draft? Why would anyone pass on that player for a “maybe” at the same position?

The kid is getting vastly overrated because he’s the one everyone watched recently.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

Chicago isn't taking a LD like we aren't, they're taking Levshunov or Demidov.. their beat writer said Silayev is on the periphery of that convo.

I can see Anaheim preferring Dickinson to Silayev, that might be our ticket to the pick of Lindstrom/Demidov.

But you're right, there's a congestion already, they aren't adding to that congestion on LD in Montreal unless it was a can't miss stud and if that were the case, he'd be gone before 5 as this draft is not full of can't miss studs like last year was in the top 3.