HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Garnet76]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I do think Dickinson is playing in the NHL next season. I don’t think you can send him back to the OHL. He has nothing else to show and he’s already 6’3 210lbs.

Agreed. I think ideally you shelter the shit out of him on a third pairing so he can adapt to the pace, but the physical aspect is not going to be much of an issue there.

He’s in that rare mould of D man that can play in the NHL at 18.

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

He’s a couple tiers ahead of Guhle at the same age.

 

[Balthazar]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

Dickinson is significantly better than Guhle at the same age. He has the highest floor in this draft after Celebrini and should become a #1 dman with size and smarts.

 

[1000eeer]

Which team is better long term:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Ignila/Lindstrom - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Kapanen
Tuch - RHP - Heineman

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron


OR

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras/Necas - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Kapanen
Tuch - RHP - Heineman

Dickinson - Mailloux
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron

 

[Balthazar]

Which team is better long term:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Ignila/Lindstrom - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Armia
RHP - Evans - Heineman

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron


OR

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Zegras/Necas - Dach - Newhook
Roy - Beck - Armia
RHP - Evans - Heineman

Dickinson - Mailloux
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron

The team at the bottom with Zegras and Dickinson.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lev to CHI
Silayev to ANA
Dickinson to CBJ

Right?

Dickinson/Silayev/Yakemchuk to ANA
Dickinson/Silayev/Lindstrom to CBJ

Would be the considerations you'd need to get Demidov to 5.

I also have the feeling that if Levshunov Lindstrom and Demidov are gone they will pick Dickinson.

And probably will try to get into the mid teens somehow and grab a good forward among the ones left.

I'd be happy with this outcome if it happens.

They won't, the one thing they shut down is they will not be drafting a LD and would trade down in that scenario if it came to it.

 

[le_sean]

Dickinson is significantly better than Guhle at the same age. He has the highest floor in this draft after Celebrini and should become a #1 dman with size and smarts.

If he “should” become a #1, why isn’t he the consensus 2nd rated prospect? In fact, if his upside was 1D with the high likelihood of getting there, the conversation would be him vs Celebrini, like it was for Tavares vs Hedman.

 

[Balthazar]

If he “should” become a #1, why isn’t he the consensus 2nd rated prospect? In fact, if his upside was 1D with the high likelihood of getting there, the conversation would be him vs Celebrini, like it was for Tavares vs Hedman.

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

 

[jaffy27]

I do think Dickinson is playing in the NHL next season. I don’t think you can send him back to the OHL. He has nothing else to show and he’s already 6’3 210lbs.

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

 

[le_sean]

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

It’s not a weird conclusion. You said a 1D with a high chance of getting there. So why isn’t he even the top rated D in this draft? Why would anyone pass on that player for a “maybe” at the same position?

The kid is getting vastly overrated because he’s the one everyone watched recently.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

Chicago isn't taking a LD like we aren't, they're taking Levshunov or Demidov.. their beat writer said Silayev is on the periphery of that convo.

I can see Anaheim preferring Dickinson to Silayev, that might be our ticket to the pick of Lindstrom/Demidov.

But you're right, there's a congestion already, they aren't adding to that congestion on LD in Montreal unless it was a can't miss stud and if that were the case, he'd be gone before 5 as this draft is not full of can't miss studs like last year was in the top 3.

 

[Balthazar]

It’s not a weird conclusion. You said a 1D with a high chance of getting there. So why isn’t he even the top rated D in this draft? Why would anyone pass on that player for a “maybe” at the same position?

I just said that he'll likely be the highest rated D in this draft. Just wait a little.

 

[le_sean]

I just said that he'll likely be the highest rated D in this draft. Just wait at little.

If anything, he’s the one defenceman at the top of the draft that’s already close to peaked. I think scouts see that.

 

[jaffy27]

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

Ya, Hedman is not only #1 on his team but NHL

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If anything, he’s the one defenceman at the top of the draft that’s already close to peaked. I think scouts see that.

After seeing Levshunov’s hairline, pretty sure that’s not the case.

lol

 

[Runner77]

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

If Habs drafted him, you gotta believe that Hughes already has irons in the fire on deals he can close. It’s all about getting the BPA in the end, with that early pick.

We should be seeing moves that reflect emphasis on adding forwards, in a number of ways.

 

[le_sean]

Ya, Hedman is not only #1 on his team but NHL

And Celebrini isn’t John Tavares as a prospect. The point was NOT a 1v1 comparison. The point was that it would be a legitimate debate if you had a surefire 1C vs a surefire 1D in the draft. But it isn’t the case here, there is no debate because Dickinson isn’t that.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If Habs drafted him, you gotta believe that Hughes already has irons in the fire on deals he can close. It’s all about getting the BPA in the end, with that early pick.

We should be seeing moves that reflect emphasis on adding forwards, in a number of ways.

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

 

[jaffy27]

After seeing Levshunov’s hairline, pretty sure that’s not the case.

lol

Hairlines are comparable…..Andrei turned out ok I think

My wife’s cousin is Belarusian, he’s 26 and has the same name and hairline as Lev’s….it’s a Russian thing I think lol

 

[WeThreeKings]

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

Hughes closed the book on the LD.

Levshunov would be picked by us if he was there because Hughes left that door open, but its moot because Levshunov isn't getting passed 3.

 

[Scintillating10]

I know we have a huge volume of prospects and early round picks and we need to prioritize quality picks but holy smokes it would be interesting to know what kind of offers we'll get at #5 from teams who want to jump up to grab one of the D.

Be chance to get top young forward and still get Ignila or Catton type

 

[Saundies]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

So you think this draft is absolutely garbage then is what you're saying.

No top D and no top line forwards except for 2 dudes.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Hughes closed the book on the LD.

Levshunov would be picked by us if he was there because Hughes left that door open, but its moot because Levshunov isn't getting passed 3.

Just because he said it doesn’t mean anything. Its the equivalent of a GM saying he’s not going to trade a player then he trades the player a week later.

By saying he doesn’t want an LD it can create a false sense of a security for a team chasing a LD that is picking 1-2 spots behind us.

Never show your cards.

 

[ReHabs]

Just because he said it doesn’t mean anything. Its the equivalent of a GM saying he’s not going to trade a player then he trades the player a week later.

By saying he doesn’t want an LD it can create a false sense of a security for a team chasing a LD that is picking 1-2 spots behind us.

Never show your cards.

Remember when Marc Bergevin closed the book on trading Subban?

 

[McGees]

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

Lindstrom won CHL top prospect despite missing most of of the year!
Many believe he'd easily be #2 overall without injury.
Easy pick if he is there and his medicals look ok.