HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Balthazar]

It’s not a weird conclusion. You said a 1D with a high chance of getting there. So why isn’t he even the top rated D in this draft? Why would anyone pass on that player for a “maybe” at the same position?

I just said that he'll likely be the highest rated D in this draft. Just wait a little.

 

[le_sean]

I just said that he'll likely be the highest rated D in this draft. Just wait at little.

If anything, he’s the one defenceman at the top of the draft that’s already close to peaked. I think scouts see that.

 

[jaffy27]

That's such a weird conclusion. Not all dmen that project to be #1 in the NHL are Hedman level.

Chances are he'll end up in the top 3 on Bob's final list just like he did on McKeen's. We'll see.

Ya, Hedman is not only #1 on his team but NHL

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If anything, he’s the one defenceman at the top of the draft that’s already close to peaked. I think scouts see that.

After seeing Levshunov’s hairline, pretty sure that’s not the case.

lol

 

[Runner77]

It’s possible, I don’t think he cracks the NHL but as you mentioned, he’s pretty close to ready and has NHL size. Wouldn’t hurt to see him compete for a gold at U20 and lead London to another Memorial up final.

If Habs draft him, the congestion at D would be too much, they already like 10 guys competing for 7 spots…..we shall see, I fully expect him to be selected by Chicago worst case Anaheim

If Habs drafted him, you gotta believe that Hughes already has irons in the fire on deals he can close. It’s all about getting the BPA in the end, with that early pick.

We should be seeing moves that reflect emphasis on adding forwards, in a number of ways.

 

[le_sean]

Ya, Hedman is not only #1 on his team but NHL

And Celebrini isn’t John Tavares as a prospect. The point was NOT a 1v1 comparison. The point was that it would be a legitimate debate if you had a surefire 1C vs a surefire 1D in the draft. But it isn’t the case here, there is no debate because Dickinson isn’t that.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If Habs drafted him, you gotta believe that Hughes already has irons in the fire on deals he can close. It’s all about getting the BPA in the end, with that early pick.

We should be seeing moves that reflect emphasis on adding forwards, in a number of ways.

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

 

[jaffy27]

After seeing Levshunov’s hairline, pretty sure that’s not the case.

lol

Hairlines are comparable…..Andrei turned out ok I think

My wife’s cousin is Belarusian, he’s 26 and has the same name and hairline as Lev’s….it’s a Russian thing I think lol

 

[WeThreeKings]

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

Hughes closed the book on the LD.

Levshunov would be picked by us if he was there because Hughes left that door open, but its moot because Levshunov isn't getting passed 3.

 

[HuGort]

I know we have a huge volume of prospects and early round picks and we need to prioritize quality picks but holy smokes it would be interesting to know what kind of offers we'll get at #5 from teams who want to jump up to grab one of the D.

Be chance to get top young forward and still get Ignila or Catton type

 

[Saundies]

I understand the hype of Dickerson with everyone getting to see him in the Memorial Cup but I'm not sure his a #1 dman. I feel he's closer to Gulhe and is another LD. I don't see a true #1 dman in any of this guys at the top. I feel the dmen and forwards are top 4 and top 6 players except Demidov having the potential to be a first line player. Obviously besides the top pick.

So you think this draft is absolutely garbage then is what you're saying.

No top D and no top line forwards except for 2 dudes.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Hughes closed the book on the LD.

Levshunov would be picked by us if he was there because Hughes left that door open, but its moot because Levshunov isn't getting passed 3.

Just because he said it doesn’t mean anything. Its the equivalent of a GM saying he’s not going to trade a player then he trades the player a week later.

By saying he doesn’t want an LD it can create a false sense of a security for a team chasing a LD that is picking 1-2 spots behind us.

Never show your cards.

 

[ReHabs]

Just because he said it doesn’t mean anything. Its the equivalent of a GM saying he’s not going to trade a player then he trades the player a week later.

By saying he doesn’t want an LD it can create a false sense of a security for a team chasing a LD that is picking 1-2 spots behind us.

Never show your cards.

Remember when Marc Bergevin closed the book on trading Subban?

 

[McGees]

People too quick to close the books on Dickinson or Levshunov should they be there at 5.

Trust the process, because in terms of potential impact I think you’d be hard pressed to make a case that Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke belong in the conversation with those two D.

There’s so many other ways Hughes could address a Top 6 FWD. Adding one of those D opens up that opening even more so than it already is.

Lindstrom won CHL top prospect despite missing most of of the year!
Many believe he'd easily be #2 overall without injury.
Easy pick if he is there and his medicals look ok.

 

[crosbyshow]

Update from Anthony Martineau

Catton at 5.10 3/4 175 pounds.

He said that he should play in the NHl at 190 to 195 pounds

Question: who the habs should draft between you Lindstrom and Iginla;

Listen, the team who will draft any of us will be in good position down the road. I have a great IQ and good skills and you need it to win

 

[WeThreeKings]

Just because he said it doesn’t mean anything. Its the equivalent of a GM saying he’s not going to trade a player then he trades the player a week later.

By saying he doesn’t want an LD it can create a false sense of a security for a team chasing a LD that is picking 1-2 spots behind us.

Never show your cards.

Well they took him to dinner, so we will see if that meant anything.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Well they took him to dinner, so we will see if that meant anything.

If they take him I’ll take you for dinner.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If they take him I’ll take you for dinner.

I'm a big fan of Dickinson, so I wouldn't hate it at all.. I don't think it makes the most sense, but hey they could do a lot worse lol.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I'm a big fan of Dickinson, so I wouldn't hate it at all.. I don't think it makes the most sense, but hey they could do a lot worse lol.

I would’ve felt the same , but with so little going on the recency bias kicks in and with it being such a wild ride after Celebrini - who the hell knows who goes where anymore?!

Fun to speculate.

 

[Playmaker09]

Update from Anthony Martineau

Catton at 5.10 3/4 175 pounds.

He said that he should play in the NHl at 190 to 195 pounds

Question: who the habs should draft between you Lindstrom and Iginla;

Listen, the team who will draft any of us will be in good position down the road. I have a great IQ and good skills and you need it to win

Almost an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than Keller at the 2016 combine. Essentially the same size as Cooley who went 3rd. But he's too small.

 

[le_sean]

Well they took him to dinner, so we will see if that meant anything.

Months ago I had mentioned maybe the strategy is to pick the better version of Guhle and trade Guhle for offence. Who knows what they are thinking.

I understand he raised eyebrows at the Memorial Cup, but that is one heck of a loaded team and in the position we don’t really need.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Almost an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than Keller at the 2016 combine. Essentially the same size as Cooley who went 3rd. But he's too small.

Catton is one of my favourite players in this draft. Cant help but feel we will regret not drafting him.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

If he “should” become a #1, why isn’t he the consensus 2nd rated prospect? In fact, if his upside was 1D with the high likelihood of getting there, the conversation would be him vs Celebrini, like it was for Tavares vs Hedman.

That is a weird statement.

In 2018, 4 defenseman were taken before Dobson, does it mean he could not become a #1 defenseman..?

In 2016, 3 defenseman were taken before McAvoy, does it mean he was not considered a #1 defenseman?

In 2008, 2 defenseman were taken before Pietrangelo, based on that again, he was not a potential #1 defenseman?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Months ago I had mentioned maybe the strategy is to pick the better version of Guhle and trade Guhle for offence. Who knows what they are thinking.

I understand he raised eyebrows at the Memorial Cup, but that is one heck of a loaded team and in the position we don’t really need.

Trading Guhle doesn't make any sense with their whole trying to push the rebuild forward, that dials it back.

 

[le_sean]

That is a weird statement.

In 2018, 4 defenseman were taken before Dobson, does it mean he could not become a #1 defenseman..?

In 2016, 3 defenseman were taken before McAvoy, does it mean he was not considered a #1 defenseman?

In 2008, 2 defenseman were taken before Pietrangelo, based on that again, he was not a potential #1 defenseman?

Not what I said. Solberg might be a 1D in the future, who knows.

The comment made was that Dickinson was likely to become a 1D which is pushing it.

Trading Guhle doesn't make any sense with their whole trying to push the rebuild forward, that dials it back.

I’m not advocating for it, but if they are concerned with his injuries and want an actual impact forward, he’s the prime candidate because of his perceived value.