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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
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My personal choice for pick #5. If the top 2 (Lindstrom, Demidov) are gone by #5, I'd be disappointed if we took a lower ranked Forward (Iginla, Helenius) over the better D man to fill a need.

1. Cayden Lindstrom
2. Ivan Demidov
3. Artyom Levshunov
4. Sam Dickinson
 
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If both Demidov and Lundstrom are gone when #5 comes along I simply.draft Dickinson or Buium.

If Guhle is the ask for any Defense for Forward trade, then trade Guhle get your top 6 forward and Dicky or Boom will be ready in 2 years when we start competing
 
SannywithoutCompy said:
He is, and if he turned out as good as Struble I'd rather have him since he's a righty, but I think he'd be redundant and not worth the opportunity cost of a potential top 6/9 forward we could get at 26
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I wouldn't put the chances of getting a top 6 forward very high at 26. Maybe some centers if they're given space to develop.
 
Grand Admiral Thrawn said:
If both Demidov and Lundstrom are gone when #5 comes along I simply.draft Dickinson or Buium.

If Guhle is the ask for any Defense for Forward trade, then trade Guhle get your top 6 forward and Dicky or Boom will be ready in 2 years when we start competing
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They might not be ready. They might just be starting out in the NHL. They might never become as good as Guhle will be. It often takes a dman 200 NHL games before you know what you've got.

I love your username by the way!
 
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I had to shoutout @Goldenhands in the top right.
 
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Kent Nilsson said:
NHL teams always try to copy whatever is working at the moment and rn if you want to fight a team like Florida you go Lindstrom.

I’m 100% he’s not making it to us now.
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It’s an imitation league, no doubt.

When you look at their top 6 (what you’re targeting with a top 5 pick), you see talent and grit, but not necessarily a lot of size.

Top 6: 2/6 over 200lbs.
… averages out to 194 lbs - below average for NHL forwards.
 
Schooner Guy said:
They might not be ready. They might just be starting out in the NHL. They might never become as good as Guhle will be. It often takes a dman 200 NHL games before you know what you've got.

I love your username by the way!
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Yeah idk. I don’t see Guhle’s potential as crazy high, especially offensively. He might progress and top out as a 30-40 point D, but I seriously doubt anything more than that. Defensively, he’s probably near his ceiling already - he’s already very good and plays on a shit team. The question is how much more room he has to improve offensively, like I said.

I’d take the gamble on all of Buium, Dickinson, Silayev, Levshunov, Yakemchuk, and possibly Parekh over keeping him, if we can trade him for a good young forward. All the top D in this draft have higher potential than Guhle, imo. And before you say anything, keep in mind I’m not saying all of them will for sure become better than Guhle - two different statements.
 
Garbageyuk said:
Yeah idk. I don’t see Guhle’s potential as crazy high, especially offensively. He might progress and top out as a 30-40 point D, but I seriously doubt anything more than that. Defensively, he’s probably near his ceiling already - he’s already very good and plays on a shit team. The question is how much more room he has to improve offensively, like I said.

I’d take the gamble on all of Buium, Dickinson, Silayev, Levshunov, Yakemchuk, and possibly Parekh over keeping him, if we can trade him for a good young forward. All the top D in this draft have higher potential than Guhle, imo. And before you say anything, keep in mind I’m not saying all of them will for sure become better than Guhle - two different statements.
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Dude...he's 22 years old and he's been playing against opponents top lines at the NHL level. He's 4-5 years away from his prime. A lot of strong D aren't even in the NHL at his age. He's going to be a very good dman.

All of the D you mentioned are strong prospects but every single one of them has question marks. Guhle's top 4 already and still improving.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
Dude...he's 22 years old and he's been playing against opponents top lines at the NHL level. He's 4-5 years away from his prime. A lot of strong D aren't even in the NHL at his age. He's going to be a very good dman.

All of the D you mentioned are strong prospects but every single one of them has question marks. Guhle's top 4 already and still improving.
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Agreed 👍
 
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Schooner Guy said:
Dude...he's 22 years old and he's been playing against opponents top lines at the NHL level. He's 4-5 years away from his prime. A lot of strong D aren't even in the NHL at his age. He's going to be a very good dman.

All of the D you mentioned are strong prospects but every single one of them has question marks. Guhle's top 4 already and still improving.
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Dude, Guhle himself has question marks. He’s a top-4 NHL D, but it’s very much up in the air how much more he’ll improve.

Some D take longer to develop, some hit their potential early and stay there - e.g., Doughty, Hanifin, Ekblad, Pietrangelo, McDonagh, etc. In fact, I’d say it’s more common for good D to get there early and maintain rather than late bloomer situations, although both happen regularly.

We really don’t know for sure, but there’s really no indication that Guhle is going to suddenly become an offensive D; that’s just not his game. And I’d say it’s pretty likely that at least one of these guys will become far better than Guhle.

Guhle is a solid young D, but doesn’t and has never looked like he has franchise D, or even true 1D potential. Pretty much all these guys have that, or they wouldn’t be ranked where they are.
 
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Garbageyuk said:
Dude, Guhle himself has question marks. He’s a top-4 NHL D, but it’s very much up in the air how much more he’ll improve.

Some D take longer to develop, some hit their potential early and stay there - e.g., Doughty, Hanifin, Ekblad, Pietrangelo, McDonagh, etc. In fact, I’d say it’s more common for good D to get there early and maintain rather than late bloomer situations, although both happen regularly.

We really don’t know for sure, but there’s really no indication that Guhle is going to suddenly become an offensive D; that’s just not his game. And I’d say it’s pretty likely that at least one of these guys will become far better than Guhle.

Guhle is a solid young D, but doesn’t and has never looked like he has franchise D, or even true 1D potential. Pretty much all these guys have that, or they wouldn’t be ranked where they are.
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Franchise D? Please. That's reserved for players like Makar and Dahlen.
Top 10 D prospects all look like sure things until they get exposed at the NHL level and it takes them 2-3 seasons before they make a positive impact IF they don't bust.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
Franchise D? Please. That's reserved for players like Makar and Dahlen.
Top 10 D prospects all look like sure things until they get exposed at the NHL level and it takes them 2-3 seasons before they make a positive impact IF they don't bust.
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I think it’s pretty consensus that Buium, Dickinson, Silayev, and Levshunov have franchise level ceilings. Yakemchuk and Parekh do too, but are seen as less likely to reach it. Now are they all going to become franchise D? Almost certainly not, but if you’re taking one of them, you obviously think your guy does or you wouldn’t be using a top ~10 pick on him. One thing is for sure though, nobody thinks Guhle has franchise potential, now or when he was drafted.

And it’s funny you say that about Makar specifically, because Buium just had a better draft year than Makar did a D+2. Hell, Levshunov had a better draft year than Makar did in his D+1 too. Thats not to say they’ll ever be as good as him, but the point is that they are very high level prospects.
 
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Garbageyuk said:
I think it’s pretty consensus that Buium, Dickinson, Silayev, and Levshunov have franchise level ceilings. Yakemchuk and Parekh do too, but are seen as less likely to reach it. Now are they all going to become franchise D? Almost certainly not, but if you’re taking one of them, you obviously think your guy does or you wouldn’t be using a top ~10 pick on him. One thing is for sure though, nobody thinks Guhle has franchise potential, now or when he was drafted.

And it’s funny you say that about Makar specifically, because Buium just had a better draft year than Makar did a D+2. Hell, Levshunov had a better draft year than Makar did in his D+1 too. Thats not to say they’ll ever be as good as him, but the point is that they are very high level prospects.
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The only ones you mentioned who I believe have franchise potential are Silayev and Parekh but that's an extreme longshot and both have question marks. Levshunov has great tools but doesn't have a brain. Will Buium be able to withstand an NHL playoff heavy style? Yakemchuk can't skate backwards. Are you watching Dickinson tonight in the Memorial Cup? Not good so far. He's always been very inconsistent.

These are all strong prospects but every single one of them will need to have a lot go right in their development to become a top pairing Dman in the NHL which is what Guhle's on the verge of becoming. Also Guhle fits well with Habs culture and what they're trying to build. He's a gamer, a good teammate, works hard on his game and has captain attributes.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
The only ones you mentioned who I believe have franchise potential are Silayev and Parekh but that's an extreme longshot and both have question marks. Levshunov has great tools but doesn't have a brain. Will Buium be able to withstand an NHL playoff heavy style? Yakemchuk can't skate backwards. Are you watching Dickinson tonight in the Memorial Cup? Not good so far. He's always been very inconsistent.

These are all strong prospects but every single one of them will need to have a lot go right in their development to become a top pairing Dman in the NHL which is what Guhle's on the verge of becoming. Also Guhle fits well with Habs culture and what they're trying to build. He's a gamer, a good teammate, works hard on his game and has captain attributes.
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Strange take, and I don’t think many would agree with you.

You question if Buium, of all players, can handle a playoff heavy style? He shut down Celebrini and Hutson in the Frozen Four semi-final and then absolutely shut down a team that featured Will Smith, Cutter Gauthier, Ryan Leonard, and Gabriel Perreault in the championship game. Like, held them completely off the scoresheet, neutralized. He was by far the biggest reason for that and his team’s championship win. He plays in a men’s league and he put up the best season by a draft eligible NCAA D of all time this year. That’s a very odd choice to have this specific concern about, and it makes me question just how familiar you are with these players.

Levshunov has “no brain”, but his season completely blows away guys like Quinn Hughes and Cale Makar in the same league at the same age.

Yeah, very interesting take, to say the least.
 
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Garbageyuk said:
Strange take, and I don’t think many would agree with you.

You question if Buium, of all players, can handle a playoff heavy style? He shut down Celebrini and Hutson in the Frozen Four semi-final and then absolutely shut down a team that featured Will Smith, Cutter Gauthier, Ryan Leonard, and Gabriel Perreault in the championship game. Like, held them completely off the scoresheet, neutralized. He was by far the biggest reason for that and his team’s championship win. He plays in a men’s league and he put up the best season by a draft eligible NCAA D of all time this year. That’s a very odd choice to have this specific concern about, and it makes me question just how familiar you are with these players.

Levshunov has “no brain”, but his season completely blows away guys like Quinn Hughes and Cale Makar in the same league at the same age.

Yeah, very interesting take, to say the least.
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Have you ever watched Levshunov play a game? I'm not talking highlight reels. Bad reads, decisions, positioning and all around defensive play. I believe this will catch up with him in the NHL when he can't simply rely on his tools. He does have amazing tools and strength/power but it's awfully hard to be a top pairing dman in the NHL with weak IQ.
 
Andrei79 said:
Its still too soon to tell, depending on your definition of franchise. I think he's trending as a future top pair and might be a number 1 if everything fits perfectly. When I watch Heiskanen, there are a lot of things Guhle does at the same level or that he's trending in that direction.
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Yup
He needs more time to grow
 
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