HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[WeThreeKings]

Lol. David Fischer turned down a contract offer ?. Well if anybody was going to turn down a contract from us glad it was him.

Yes, they offered it right after the draft with the specific intention of him turning it down to go to college. It's common practice between NHL teams and NCAA prospects.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Buffalo not signing Mats Lindgren.. he was a pet prospect for a few of us in that class. Didn't really progress at all.

Sucks but it happens.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Sucks but it happens.

It mostly happens haha.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I don't think his puck skills are a big issue, I just don't see the offensive upside that people are projecting on him. Not a lot of deception, not much creativity, okay passing. I think he can be a good #2 at his higher end, but I'd say the chances of him being a Chara or a Hedman are slim to none.

The same things were said about Chara and Hedman. Chara didn't put up any offence in his life before the NHL and didn't get 40 points until he was 27 years old. Hedman had 4 points in his first season in the SEL. Many in here crucified Hedman for his low production in two WJC tournaments.

To me it means a lot if I’m picking Top 10 in a draft absolutely loaded with defencemen. Silayev would be a great project on a team that is close to competing, not a team desperate for talent.

Again, this is what folks were saying during Slaf's draft year and D+1 year. Silayev's not a sexy pick so public lists don't rank him as high as NHL teams do (#3 on Bobby Mac's poll of NHL scouts). Big raw kids take a few years to catch up with their bodies but provide huge rewards when/if they realize their potential.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

The same things were said about Chara and Hedman. Chara didn't put up any offence in his life before the NHL and didn't get 40 points until he was 27 years old. Hedman had 4 points in his first season in the SEL. Many in here crucified Hedman for his low production in two WJC tournaments.

Again, this is what folks were saying during Slaf's draft year and D+1 year. Silayev's not a sexy pick so public lists don't rank him as high as NHL teams do (#3 on Bobby Mac's poll of NHL scouts). Big raw kids take a few years to catch up with their bodies but provide huge rewards when/if they realize their potential.

The same things were also said about Tinordi, Oleksiak, Morin, and Stanley.

You left out Hedman's draft year in the SEL where he put up 0.5 ppg, and anyone projecting based on the WJC should stop.

 

[le_sean]

Do you have Iginla and Sennecke's?

This is from a user on Reddit so I don’t personally have access to a bunch, if people start asking for more.

 

[le_sean]

Here is Eiserman which backs what a lot of people have said - all he has is a shot

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

This is from a user on Reddit so I don’t personally have access to a bunch, if people start asking for more.

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I wish they'd mention which games they were tracking so we could see the progression as the year goes on. Pretty much shows what you'd expect though - Sennecke needs to hire a shooting coach, Iginla needs to work on softening up his hands a bit, especially when passing the puck.

 

[skidcells]

Here is Eiserman which backs what a lot of people have said - all he has is a shot

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Love all these stats but his sample size is the problem. The results would be much more meaningfull if he tracked more games. We also have no idea which games he tracked.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Here is Eiserman which backs what a lot of people have said - all he has is a shot

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Also backs that he's tried to add some playmaking to his game, but man if he thinks his defense is fine he's in for a hell of a surprise at the next levels.

Anyone interviewing him needs to grill him on that and figure out if he's really willing to put the work in, because he needs a lot of it.

 

[le_sean]

Catton. Think this shows he’s likely a winger at the next level.

Love all these stats but his sample size is the problem. The results would be much more meaningfull if he tracked more games. We also have no idea which games he tracked.

I mean you can’t expect someone to watch 60 games of every prospect. He has a big enough sample size to get a fair understanding of a player.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Catton. Think this shows he’s likely a winger at the next level.

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I think he'll be a Keller-like winger (a bit better though) in that he takes the winger's job off faceoffs and in the defensive zone but transitions and attacks through the middle of the ice like a center.

 

[le_sean]

I wish they'd mention which games they were tracking so we could see the progression as the year goes on. Pretty much shows what you'd expect though - Sennecke needs to hire a shooting coach, Iginla needs to work on softening up his hands a bit, especially when passing the puck.

To me I’m less concerned about the shot and I would want a player with his puck skills to carry the puck through the neutral zone more. The stats show he’s got a great success rate when he does, so why not do it more? Next season will be big for him.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Of course Wheeler has us taking Catton in the Atheltic's new mock today.

 

[le_sean]

Of course Wheeler has us taking Catton in the Atheltic's new mock today.

Yes if he were GM. It’s not a prediction of who they think teams will take.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Of course Wheeler has us taking Catton in the Atheltic's new mock today.

I’m ok with it, I really like Catton. Highly talented, that said it doesn’t seem like he’s on the clubs radar at all.

If the right player is picked it might not be a big deal, but Catton has potential to be that hindsight pick everyone here bitches about 4 years later.

 

[NotProkofievian]

This is from a user on Reddit so I don’t personally have access to a bunch, if people start asking for more.

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Thanks bud!

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

This is from a user on Reddit so I don’t personally have access to a bunch, if people start asking for more.

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So Iggy can actually make a pass, huh?

 

[Habs Halifax]

I’m ok with it, I really like Catton. Highly talented, that said it doesn’t seem like he’s on the clubs radar at all.

If the right player is picked it might not be a big deal, but Catton has potential to be that hindsight pick everyone here bitches about 4 years later.

Chances Catton ends up better than lets say Jarvis? Difficult to put odds to this because not even Catton knows how his development and adjustment to the pro game goes. This is tough business trying to predict growth and where they will be from age 20+.

How many top pairing D and top line assets come from this draft? I will say not as many as fans think with the prospect drools. Also, there are going to be busts/disappointments in this top 13. Talent looks very good and above average from the typical draft but yeah, I can see 2-4 guys who make you look like an idiot for picking them. It always happens.

Is Catton on the Habs radar? We don't know. All we know is what media and us fans are chit chatting about. Habs will create their board and have way more context to consider. Lets just be happy they are making the pick and we are not.

I'll be content if we walk away with one of (Demidov, Iggy, Lindstrom). One will be on the board when we pick and I'd put high odds of that. If we take someone else, I'll be surprised slightly. I really wanted Michkov last year and not sure how good Reinbacher will be. I understand their strategy though.

 

[salbutera]

Of course Wheeler has us taking Catton in the Atheltic's new mock today.

Wheeler does state he doesn’t love the choice but does it out of what he feels is a need for Habs

“Catton gives a dimension of skating and skill that the Habs core could really use”

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

To me I’m less concerned about the shot and I would want a player with his puck skills to carry the puck through the neutral zone more. The stats show he’s got a great success rate when he does, so why not do it more? Next season will be big for him.

I wonder how much of that is him deferring to Ritchie for the most part

 

[le_sean]

So Iggy can actually make a pass, huh?

Of course. He’s not a premier playmaker though so it’s unfair to create that expectation. I think it’s more indicative of a player willing to go to the front of the net or battle along the boards and opportunities stem from that. He’s not someone sticking to the outside and finding cross ice seams.

That’s why people say he already plays a pro game and it shows.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Of course. He’s not a premier playmaker though so it’s unfair to create that expectation. I think it’s more indicative of a player willing to go to the front of the net or battle along the boards and opportunities stem from that. He’s not someone sticking to the outside and finding cross ice seams.

That’s why people say he already plays a pro game and it shows.

It's also not his first instinct, I'd argue it's probably his 3rd or 4th instinct. He wants to shoot, if he can't shoot he will try to dangle to get into a spot to shoot, if he can't do that he'll try to jam inside with the puck, otherwise he's going to pass.

Nothing wrong with that style of game at all.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Yes if he were GM. It’s not a prediction of who they think teams will take.

I'm just sick of that guy always ranking the small skilled guys so high. He had Marco Rossi and Cole Perfetti 3-4 in 2020. Jake Sanderson was 17th and Guhle wasn't even in his first round.

And now to nobodies surprise, he hates the fact we drafted Reinbacher last year, a non flashy player. I just want him to kick rocks already.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm just sick of that guy always ranking the small skilled guys so high. He had Marco Rossi and Cole Perfetti 3-4 in 2020. Jake Sanderson was 17th and Guhle wasn't even in his first round.

And now to nobodies surprise, he hates the fact we drafted Reinbacher last year, a non flashy player. I just want him to kick rocks already.

He's a Leafs cuck. Scott Can'twheelher is the last guy I listen to.