HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Gally11]

Draft prospect hockey updated there mock draft simulator with McKenzie and Button list. Here is what I did

5: Tij Iginla
26: Michael Hage
46: Cole Beaudoin
66: Justin Poirier
78: Ben Danford
130: Alexandre Blais
166: Austin Burnevik
198: Justin Gendron
222: Jack Pridham

I feel like Chicago traded up two picks to take a swing at Hage as they’ll be picking a D man at 2

 

[McGees]

Yes if he were GM. It’s not a prediction of who they think teams will take.

If it isn't a mock of who he thinks team will take then isn't it just a ranking?

 

[WeThreeKings]

If it isn't a mock of who he thinks team will take then isn't it just a ranking?

Not necessarily because there's 3 guys doing the mock.

 

[RationalExpectations]

You seem to be correct judging by Mitch Brown’s player cards

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Always feels nice when advanced stats corroborate the eye test

 

[Steve Shutt]

How much would Calgary need to offer to move from #9 to #5 so they can snag Iginla?

 

[WeThreeKings]

How much would Calgary need to offer to move from #9 to #5 so they can snag Iginla?

They can probably sit there and get him at 9. But they'd have to pay their additional first and a 3rd to make that move, I believe. Doubt we'd entertain it.

 

[McGees]

Iginla at 14 and Helenius at 16 in that mock.
Don't quit your day job Wheeler and crew...oh wait, this is their day job.

 

[The Great Weal]

How much would Calgary need to offer to move from #9 to #5 so they can snag Iginla?

I'd ask for the Canucks 1st. And frankly, if Celebrini/Demidov/Lindstrom are gone, I'd make that trade. I don't really see much (if any) separation between the other forwards. Not to mention that Arizona/Ottawa/Seattle are all likely taking dmen too.

 

[montreal]

How much would Calgary need to offer to move from #9 to #5 so they can snag Iginla?

If you use the draft pick trade value chart,

5th OA is worth 484 trade value
9th OA is worth 372 trade value

So you would want around 112 trade value to drop down if not more. The 36th OA is worth 111 trade value

 

[morhilane]

Always feels nice when advanced stats corroborate the eye test

Mitch Brown's cards are not really what people call advanced stats in hockey. There is no corsi, or xGF% on them. Some of the stats in there are used to calcualte corsi and its friends thought. It's more a counted version of the "eye test".

It is made with small sample size (usually 10 games) thought and the percentile comparison doesn't care about leagues from what I remember.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Iginla at 14 and Helenius at 16 in that mock.
Don't quit your day job Wheeler and crew...oh wait, this is their day job.

Not that farfetched.. really the only names I see going earlier that might not would be Eiserman, MBN and Solberg.

 

[Deebs]

If you use the draft pick trade value chart,

5th OA is worth 484 trade value
9th OA is worth 372 trade value

So you would want around 112 trade value to drop down if not more. The 36th OA is worth 111 trade value

Because we'd have them bent over a barrel, it would take a lot more for us to move that pick or at least it should. We need to take the guy we want and forget he trading down nonsense.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Because we'd have them bent over a barrel, it would take a lot more for us to move that pick or at least it should. We need to take the guy we want and forget he trading down nonsense.

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

Everyone is going defence except San Jose and Montreal, who is going Demidov.

Ask, believe, receive.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Everyone is going defence except San Jose and Montreal, who is going Demidov.

Ask, believe, receive.

I think we'll see Demidov go in that top 4 and then Montreal goes forward, but the teams behind us are all defenseman desperate. I'm sure they are happy with how the draft played out as next year the opposite looks very much true.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

 

[jaffy27]

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

Ottawa needs a General, Buium or Parekh are excellent choices and more then likely available

 

[WeThreeKings]

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

Well, looking at their line-up, the need is on defense and that's been largely their problem. They might go forward if Yakemchuk, Dickinson, Silayev and Levshunov gone.. but they also have to trade Chychrun soon.

 

[Hannibal]

I have a hard time seeing Demidov being dominant when i watch the playoffs. The guy plays pond hockey

 

[Benstheman]

Well, looking at their line-up, the need is on defense and that's been largely their problem. They might go forward if Yakemchuk, Dickinson, Silayev and Levshunov gone.. but they also have to trade Chychrun soon.

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

 

[McGees]

The only way we trade down is if we have those forwards in a 100% completely equal tier.
But F*** the 2nd rd pick or whatever and just take the player you want the most.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

No, it's just funny that some people saw Iginla's round 1 and he was the flavor of the week, then they saw Buium in the frozen four games against Fowler/Hutson and he was the flavor of the week, now Dickinson has some excellent Memorial Cup games and he's the guy we need.

I take all 3.

 

[Gally11]

I have a hard time seeing Demidov being dominant when i watch the playoffs. The guy plays pond hockey

Because he can lol, he’s supposedly a really smart player so he’ll adjust his game according to competition.

 

[Scintillating10]

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

Still get Ignila and a late first sounds good to me. Use that late first to pay down the return on Necas. I think if Montreal can get Ignila and Necas with 5th overall Habs be very happy.

 

[The Great Weal]

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

Ottawa does need defense, but with Norris pretty much out of the equation I wouldn't completely rule them out of drafting a forward.