HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Deebs]

If you use the draft pick trade value chart,

5th OA is worth 484 trade value
9th OA is worth 372 trade value

So you would want around 112 trade value to drop down if not more. The 36th OA is worth 111 trade value

Because we'd have them bent over a barrel, it would take a lot more for us to move that pick or at least it should. We need to take the guy we want and forget he trading down nonsense.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Because we'd have them bent over a barrel, it would take a lot more for us to move that pick or at least it should. We need to take the guy we want and forget he trading down nonsense.

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

Everyone is going defence except San Jose and Montreal, who is going Demidov.

Ask, believe, receive.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Everyone is going defence except San Jose and Montreal, who is going Demidov.

Ask, believe, receive.

I think we'll see Demidov go in that top 4 and then Montreal goes forward, but the teams behind us are all defenseman desperate. I'm sure they are happy with how the draft played out as next year the opposite looks very much true.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Well why would Calgary do it anyway.. if we are entertaining it, it means we don't want Tij Iginla.. so then why pull the trade with Montreal? Utah is going defense at 6, Ottawa is going defense at 7, Seattle would go defense at 8. If they wanted to trade with Montreal it'd be for a defenseman, not a forward.

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

 

[jaffy27]

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

Ottawa needs a General, Buium or Parekh are excellent choices and more then likely available

 

[WeThreeKings]

I wouldn't be top sure about Ottawa going d at 7. Their GM picked forwards in the 1st round in the O all but one year (Donovan)

Well, looking at their line-up, the need is on defense and that's been largely their problem. They might go forward if Yakemchuk, Dickinson, Silayev and Levshunov gone.. but they also have to trade Chychrun soon.

 

[Hannibal]

I have a hard time seeing Demidov being dominant when i watch the playoffs. The guy plays pond hockey

 

[Benstheman]

Well, looking at their line-up, the need is on defense and that's been largely their problem. They might go forward if Yakemchuk, Dickinson, Silayev and Levshunov gone.. but they also have to trade Chychrun soon.

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

 

[McGees]

The only way we trade down is if we have those forwards in a 100% completely equal tier.
But F*** the 2nd rd pick or whatever and just take the player you want the most.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

No, it's just funny that some people saw Iginla's round 1 and he was the flavor of the week, then they saw Buium in the frozen four games against Fowler/Hutson and he was the flavor of the week, now Dickinson has some excellent Memorial Cup games and he's the guy we need.

I take all 3.

 

[Gally11]

I have a hard time seeing Demidov being dominant when i watch the playoffs. The guy plays pond hockey

Because he can lol, he’s supposedly a really smart player so he’ll adjust his game according to competition.

 

[HuGort]

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

Still get Ignila and a late first sounds good to me. Use that late first to pay down the return on Necas. I think if Montreal can get Ignila and Necas with 5th overall Habs be very happy.

 

[The Great Weal]

Let's say Draft goes :

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev
4-Levshunov/Dickinson/Silayev

I think Ottawa might want to leapfrog Arizona for that remaining D and ask us to trade picks. I would ask for this deal :

5OA + 58OA
for
7OA + 25OA

That way we still are guaranteed one of Iginla or Lindstrom at 7OA.

Then we own the 25OA and the 26OA to trade up to 12-15OA or trade for an actual top 6 player.

Ottawa does need defense, but with Norris pretty much out of the equation I wouldn't completely rule them out of drafting a forward.

 

[Hannibal]

Because he can lol, he’s supposedly a really smart player so he’ll adjust his game according to competition.

I don’t think this a sure thing like many here think it is.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I guess every team picks by need, apparently, even though every gm says BPA.

In the NFL it makes some sense to pick by need, but in the NHL most players aren't making an impact for 2 or 3 years and most rosters flip over in about that same time.

 

[Andrei79]

Never saw that channel before but I was extremely impressed with the number of draft vids as I know that amount of work that they must have put into it and google doesn't pay shit unless you are getting say 1M views a month and even that I don't know if you could afford to live off that alone which for the amount of time it takes would be hard to work other jobs.

I don't always pay a lot of attention to the draft thread as it's not really my thing but since we have sucked lately I have been paying more attention to the draft. I haven't had time to watch too much lately as work is f***ing crazy busy but this will save me some time trying to watch some of these kids as there were a bunch of names I never even heard of as I haven't seen any WHL or Q games or USHL and I only saw the USNTDP once or twice.

Hes a really good YouTuber. I like how he gives the number of the player and highlights him during the shift by shift. Back in 2019, he had multiple videos of pretty much any player that was worth watching. He also has a website for anyone interested.

 

[Balthazar]

I guess every team picks by need, apparently, even though every gm says BPA.

The BPA are only at the very top and then it's all about tiers.

The #1 tie breaker is where the player projects to play in the NHL:

Center > RD >> LD >>> wing.

Wingers, even the high end ones, are easy to obtain so they have the lowest draft value by a large margin.

 

[vokiel]

I guess every team picks by need, apparently, even though every gm says BPA.

In the NFL it makes some sense to pick by need, but in the NHL most players aren't making an impact for 2 or 3 years and most rosters flip over in about that same time.

That's correct. All a bunch of bullshiters when it comes time to justify their picks, and the reason is: "The draft isn't an exact science."

Hell they might as well say it isn't science and it's a crap shoot... Well.. They are saying that sometimes right?

 

[G0bias]

Former Pierre McGuire hockey prospect crush

I memba.

80pts in 30 games in his draft year in US prep school. Was one of my potential early 2nd round sleeper picks... until PHI went all leeroy jenkins

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

It's not an exact science, there's no way of measuring every parameter and saying without a shadow of a doubt '' this kid is 5% better than that kid, therefore I'll pick him''. The only thing you CAN measure is how much you like a player and that's by definition as subjective as it gets. That's all BPA is.

 

[Goldenhands]

This is how I see the draft falling, top 15 mock draft.

1-Macklin Celebrini C

2- Ivan Demidov F

3- Anton Silayev D

4- Cayden Lindstrom C

5- Konsta Helenius C

6-

Artem Levshunov D

7- Sam Dickinson D

8- Zeev Buium D

9- Carter Yakemchuk D

10- Cole Eiserman F

11- Tij Iginla F

12- Berkly Catton F

13- Beckett Sennecke F

14- Zayne Parekh D

15- Michael Brandsegg-Nygard F

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[Blame the referee]

We always read, pick BPA.

I think you don’t have choice to consider position need in a lot of case.

Most of the time it’s pretty close between BPA and the BPA you need at your position.

Nobody really know for sure who is the BPA. You have proof when you look back at the draft years later.

Just dont do a big reach for position…aka KK

 

[Andrei79]

This is how I see the draft falling, top 15 mock draft.

1-Macklin Celebrini C

2- Ivan Demidov F

3- Anton Silayev D

4- Cayden Lindstrom C

5- Konsta Helenius C

6- View attachment 877613 Artem Levshunov D

7- Sam Dickinson D

8- Zeev Buium D

9- Carter Yakemchuk D

10- Cole Eiserman F

11- Tij Iginla F

12- Berkly Catton F

13- Beckett Sennecke F

14- Zayne Parekh D

15- Michael Brandsegg-Nygard F

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Would be really surprised if the Habs picked Helenius. They're not getting someone who pouted for being at the U18s.

 

[WeThreeKings]

This is how I see the draft falling, top 15 mock draft.

1-Macklin Celebrini C

2- Ivan Demidov F

3- Anton Silayev D

4- Cayden Lindstrom C

5- Konsta Helenius C

6- View attachment 877613 Artem Levshunov D

7- Sam Dickinson D

8- Zeev Buium D

9- Carter Yakemchuk D

10- Cole Eiserman F

11- Tij Iginla F

12- Berkly Catton F

13- Beckett Sennecke F

14- Zayne Parekh D

15- Michael Brandsegg-Nygard F

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I appreciate the dedication to your dream

Would be really surprised if the Habs picked Helenius. They're not getting someone who pouted for being at the U18s.

They're not, that's just his boy. If the Habs pick Helenius at 5 I'll admit Goldenhands is the golden God and I'll retire from the boards for good, the man would have grown too powerful.