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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
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le_sean

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BergevinBurner said:
I think it's very unlikely we'll see Silayev be our pick, he's under contract in the KHL until the end of the 2025-26 season, so even if we took him with the plan of replacing Guhle with him, he'd still be 3 seasons away from joining us.

Helenius is a real possibility IMO, if Lindstrom is gone at our pick or his medical report is too concerning, then I could see management going with Helenius as their #2 preferred center.

Eiserman is in the same boat as Catton for me, I'd be fine with either guy since I think they both have pretty game changing upside, but I'd be shocked if management is overly high on either guy.
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I don’t think there’s any justification for taking Helenius over Sennecke or Iginla, if Demidov and Lindstrom aren’t there.

These guys picked two big and toolsy players the last two drafts. I can’t see them going for a vanilla 5’11 player.
 
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le_sean said:
I don’t think there’s any justification for taking Helenius over Sennecke or Iginla, if Demidov and Lindstrom aren’t there.

These guys picked two big and toolsy players the last two drafts. I can’t see them going for a vanilla 5’11 player.
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They're not taking Helenius. Basu didn't even entertain it and Pronman mentioned he's dropping.
 
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le_sean said:
I don’t think there’s any justification for taking Helenius over Sennecke or Iginla, if Demidov and Lindstrom aren’t there.

These guys picked two big and toolsy players the last two drafts. I can’t see them going for a vanilla 5’11 player.
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Would you call Suzuki or Hischier vanilla players?
 
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They want skill up front and size is also a priority.
They've brought this up multiple times.
I don't think high floors, or D are as important for the #5 pick
 
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Seems Lindstrom is kinda sliding which is to be expecting considering he’s barely played in months. I don’t think it’s totally unhinged to think we could have our pick of forwards not named Celebrini. Demidov would be top of my list but he’s Russian so who knows. Very well could come down to Lindstrom and Sennecke.
 
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Riggins said:
Waiting for the tournament he's going to excel at. First it was the U18, then it was the World Championship because he's used to playing with pros. You got anything scheduled Helenius can show off at? :sarcasm:
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1 average u18 on a terrible Finland team wont change much in their evaluations. Kid was playing exhibition games with the senior national team where he was one of their top players when he got told to report to the U18. He also played ton of hockey including hard playoffs games in Liiga... A kid like Dvorsky was playing 4th line minutes near the end of the season and barely played in the playoffs, u18 was his last chance to shine and improve his draft stock...

I know what this kid is about and capable of.
 
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Goldenhands said:
1 average u18 on a terrible Finland team wont change much in their evaluations. Kid was playing exhibition games with the senior national team where he was one of their top players when he got told to report to the U18. He also played ton of hockey including hard playoffs games in Liiga... A kid like Dvorsky was playing 4th line minutes near the end of the season and barely played in the playoffs, u18 was his last chance to shine and improve his draft stock...

I know what this kid is about and capable of.
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Agreed that he shouldn't be evaluated based on short tournaments.
 
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Helenius is the 2nd best 100% center in the draft and there is no chance of getting the best, If the organization wants a center then there is really only one choice.

That being said Demidov, Lindstrom, Levshunov, are all ahead of him in BPA. Anyone else you can argue deep in the weeds about which is the next BPA.
 
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Xirik said:
Helenius is the 2nd best 100% center in the draft and there is no chance of getting the best, If the organization wants a center then there is really only one choice.

That being said Demidov, Lindstrom, Levshunov, are all ahead of him in BPA. Anyone else you can argue deep in the weeds about which is the next BPA.
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Yeah that worked out well for the team before, reaching specifically for a centre who happens to be from Finland while passing on the son of a former NHL legend, among other clearly better players.
 
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le_sean said:
Yeah that worked out well for the team before, reaching specifically for a centre who happens to be from Finland.
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basing a draft pick on a player drafted in the past who did work out and isn't relevant to the current player being talked isn't very sound unless you uncovered that all of Finland drinks "suck at hockey" water.

Also if you read my post I never said that they should draft Helenius.
 
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le_sean said:
Yeah that worked out well for the team before, reaching specifically for a centre who happens to be from Finland while passing on the son of a former NHL legend, among other clearly better players.
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Except Helenius wouldn’t be a reach since there’s no clear BPA after Celebrini-Demidov-Lev.

Also what happened with KK is irrelevant with today.
 
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Xirik said:
basing a draft pick on a player drafted in the past who did work out and isn't relevant to the current player being talked isn't very sound unless you uncovered that all of Finland drinks "suck at hockey" water.

Also if you read my post I never said that they should draft Helenius.
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I’m not basing it on what happened in 2018. I’m just saying it parallels it.

Habs7631 said:
Except Helenius wouldn’t be a reach since there’s no clear BPA after Celebrini-Demidov-Lev.

Also what happened with KK is irrelevant with today.
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Lots of scouts would disagree with that. He’s clearly a tier below Iginla, Lindstrom, Silayev.
 
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MarkovsKnee said:
Preliminary rankings dont come out til Hlinka tournament.

Rough top 25 rankings:

1. Macklin Celebrini (C) - Boston University
1. Cole Eiserman (LW) - US NTDP
3. Ivan Demidov (C) - MHL (Russia)
4. Artyom Levshunov (RD) - Green Bay (USHL)
5. Aaron Kiviharju (LD) - HIFK (Liiga)
6. Igor Chernyshov (LW) - MHL (Russia)
7. Berkley Catton (C) - Spokane (WHL)
8. Zeev Buium (LD) - US NTDP
9. Linus Ericksson (C) - Djurgardens J20
10. Konsta Helenius (RW) - Jukurit (Liiga)
11. Cole Hutson (LD) - US NTDP
12. Zayne Parekh (RD) - Saginaw (OHL)
13. Cayden Lindstrom (C) - Medicine Hat (WHL)
14. Beckett Sennecke (RW) - Oshawa (OHL)
15. Tomas Lavoie (RD) - Cape Breton (QMJHL)
16. Trevor Connelly (C) - Tri-City (USHL)
17. Anton Olsson (LD) - Mora J20
18. Carter Yakemchuk (RD) - Portland (WHL)
19. Liam Greentree (RW) - Windsor (OHL)
20. Maxim Massé (RW) - Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
21. Sam Dickinson (LD) - London (OHL)
22. Ryder Ritchie (RW) - Prince Albert (WHL)
23. Henry Mews (RD) - Ottawa (OHL)
24. Jesse Heslop (LW) - Everett (WHL)
25. Tij Iginla (C) - Kelowna (WHL)
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Interesting seeing these rankings from June 30 , 2023 from Page 1
 
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