HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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Habs Halifax

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TIG IGINLA! Tell me what flaw he has? This kid is going to top out at 6'-1" and 200 lbs and he's got it all. Skating, edge work, Shot, Grit, IQ. Look at that focus in his eyes.

Edge work and that Shot and not afraid of contact. SIGN ME UP!

 

Team_Spirit

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And....who's that?
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Mrb1p

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When a player is above 6ft1 and 200lbs, he is overrated bc of his size and dominate only bc of his strenght against his peers.

When a player is below 5ft10 and 190 lbs, he is too small and wont be able to recreate what he does in the junior stage.

The perfect size for a draft year player is truly 6ft, 190lbs. Therefore we can only focus on his skillset.
Nah they've been trying to discredit Iginla for his size in here too.
Intensity isn't one of Michkov's strong suits, especially defensive intensity. I'm a huge fan of Michkov, but I just don't know why you brought this up.
Michkov is pretty intense and a very strong competitor. Don't fall for the smear campaign.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Nah they've been trying to discredit Iginla for his size in here too.

Michkov is pretty intense and a very strong competitor. Don't fall for the smear campaign.

Who's been trying to discredit Iginla for his size? Are they crazy? He's already at 185 lbs and one of the youngest in this draft. Kid is going to top out at 6'-1" and 200 lbs. The type that shines in the playoffs when the going gets rough.

Love that edge work and his shot. Easy decision for me and taking him at 5 is the sweet spot for me. Is there any chance someone from 2-4 takes him? Doubt it right?

Teams in the 6-12 range are probably targeting him big time.
 

Doublechin

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Eiserman’s issues stem from concerns around coachability. He seems to be pretty arrogant and defiant in the face of criticism. And that wouldn’t be such a big deal except there are holes in his game.

To me, he has the highest ceiling. His goal totals are insane. But if you draft him and he doesn’t listen to what needs to be done? It’s a problem. I can see why he’s sliding.

Still would love to have him. Still think he’d work out here. But I’m perfectly fine with us going in a different direction. We can get sizzle from Demidov, Size and oughness from Lidstrom… lots of different options here.

Eiserman seems to be sliding. I like the idea of trading the Jets pick this year and Flames next year for Sharks second 1st round pick. I’d even throw in our first next year if it guaranteed we got Eiserman.

We have an abundance of prospects now. I’d rather we get higher quality. If we could somehow walk out of this draft with Lidstrom and Eiserman… I think we’re set.
I thought Laine would be a 45-60 goal scorer

Pure goal scoring talent without the coachability and IQ/heart isn't not something I'd want so high in the draft
 
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DramaticGloveSave

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Where did you get this info? Well, the meteoric rise started well before the playoffs and just accelerated in the playoffs. Some posters wondered about the slow start but it is really the final product that counts as long as the selecting team can be sure that the current level of play is what the player is. I think someone brought up Slaf's case where the player had a rather pedestrian first half of a season in Liiga and then took off after the Olympics.
I read it somewhere, can’t remember where.
 

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Gotta say

Dickinson looks like a future capitain and a playoff warrior

And yes, I'm saying that based on this one image
As I said yesterday, we're not picking a Dman, that much is very clear, but if we WERE, he would be my guy. His absolute floor is what Guhle is now IMO, his ceiling could be as high as a Heiskanen if his excellent offensive game translates.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Yup I remember this, happened with Matthew in his draft year too. I feel like players were getting overvalued because of size for so long by NHL management, us fans have a tendency of underrating guys with size and leaning more towards the smaller flashier players. In his draft year Brady had a very unique combination of size and soft hands that you don't see very often in players. This year I feel like Lidstrom has a unique combination of size and footspeed that does not come around very often. He moves like he's 5'9 out there, just a freak athlete.

This time around, I'm taking the sun of another former great. Tig Iginla. I've been trying and trying to find his flaws and can't.

That edge work and shot and weight at an early age. Very good IQ and he's not afraid of the physical areas of the game. The focus in his eyes tells me he's obsessive at improving and pays attention to everything around him.

Some say his top straight line speed is his flaw but man, it's a nit pick. His cross overs and edge work are top notch. Ability to escape pressure along the walls is something that takes players years to develop at in the NHL. Already has a NHL shot. Passing ability and vision is solid
 

BeliveauFan4ever

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Lots of people going by the few threads in here... so many want a dmen now. :laugh:
It’s kind of understandable though.

I like and feel good about Guhle.
I’m an Arbor fan.
I’m intrigued by Mailloux, Hutson.

But I don’t really see any of them garnering Norris votes. Maybe Guhle…
It’s also early in their careers.

YET, the forward needs are long-standing and obvious. Would be a gut punch to not secure a spark for the O.

Dickinson will be very good and would be a great add.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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I thought Laine would be a 45-60 goal scorer

Pure goal scoring talent without the coachability and IQ/heart isn't not something I'd want so high in the draft
Fair enough. The concerns are legit.

But I'd definitely love to trade some lower picks (and even next year's 1st) to get Eiserman after the 10th. Walking away with Lidstrom/Eiserman could set us up with a contending team. Getting Lidstrom would mitigate the risks in this draft. Getting Eiserman later would be awesome upside.

We have an abundance of prospects. It's time to start amalgamating some picks for higher grade upside. Eiserman's upside is extremely high. I personally think he's worth it.

But I totally understand anyone who says that he's not. The red flags are there.
 

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I find the "this is the last year for a high pick" talk amusing. This team is really bad. It takes time for the stink to wash off
They were 10 points away from competing for the last playoff spot with a handful of teams and in the most one goal games in the league despite injuries to key players. The team isn’t contending but they aren’t “really bad”
 

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I find the "this is the last year for a high pick" talk amusing. This team is really bad. It takes time for the stink to wash off
This team is not good enough for sure to be a cup contender. But picking another top 5 next year would be disappointing. Suzuki will be D+8, Caufield D+6, Dach D+6, Newhook D+6, Guhle D+5, Barron D+5, Struble D+6, Harris D+7. Montembault is supposed to be at least a 1B goalie, Matheson a 3D, Savard a 5D. Slaf will be D+3… If this core brings you another top 5 at this stage in their development maybe it is justnot the right core.
 

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I find the "this is the last year for a high pick" talk amusing. This team is really bad. It takes time for the stink to wash off
You think this team finishes bottom 5 again next year ? If its the case the rebuild is a bust and they need to salvage hard because most picks are D+2 or more now. Progress needs to happen. Although Im sure icing Matheson 28 minutes a game is going to hold the Habs off from the PO's again.
I didn't fall for the smear campaign. I just don't see how you bring in Michkov's intensity when comparing him to Demidov. There are so many incredible things that Michkov does, and he decides to bring in his intensity? It isn't Michkov's top attribute, and he can certainly be lackadaisical on the defensive side. Although I do like his tenacity on board battles for a small dude.

I don't follow what other people say about a player; this is from my own viewings on Michkov and I always was and still am a fan of him.
It is actually one of his top attribute. He's very competitive and it's probably the main thing that leads him to be so clutch.
 

Doublechin

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This team is not good enough for sure to be a cup contender. But picking another top 5 next year would be disappointing. Suzuki will be D+8, Caufield D+6, Dach D+6, Newhook D+6, Guhle D+5, Barron D+5, Struble D+6, Harris D+7. Montembault is supposed to be at least a 1B goalie, Matheson a 3D, Savard a 5D. Slaf will be D+3… If this core brings you another top 5 at this stage in their development maybe it is justnot the right core.
It's hard to tell

Most people thought Boston will or mightdrastically decline once Bergeron retired but nope

Team culture seems to indicate a healthy room and that's by far the top indicator to grow and eventually win as a team

If our young guys take another step up, we improve, simple as that, whatever we draft this year won't be a contributor next year
 

FrankMTL

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The next great NHL brother combo, Tij and Joe Iginla. Look out. This is a family of atheletes. Their sister Jade (19 years old), won gold with the Canadian U18's a couple of years ago and is the leading scorer of Brown University in the NCAA.

Those are damn good genes.
 
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