HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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Locks

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Really too bad Sennecke is hurt, was hoping we could see him back and dominate in the Memorial Cup, but Knights are too strong me thinks. Having him truly establish himself as one of the elite forwards in this draft would help me feel better about taking him. Do love the skill set, but his meteoric rise is heavily based on his epic playoffs and the concussion is putting a damper on that.
Where did you get this info? Well, the meteoric rise started well before the playoffs and just accelerated in the playoffs. Some posters wondered about the slow start but it is really the final product that counts as long as the selecting team can be sure that the current level of play is what the player is. I think someone brought up Slaf's case where the player had a rather pedestrian first half of a season in Liiga and then took off after the Olympics.
 

SOLR

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Where did you get this info? Well, the meteoric rise started well before the playoffs and just accelerated in the playoffs. Some posters wondered about the slow start but it is really the final product that counts as long as the selecting team can be sure that the current level of play is what the player is. I think someone brought up Slaf's case where the player had a rather pedestrian first half of a season in Liiga and then took off after the Olympics.

That a player has a slow start after gaining 2 inch in a summer is absolutely normal. Not all slow starts are alike, this is a very very very biological one that he could not control in any way.
 

Schooner Guy

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That’s a very conservative estimate, especially if the Habs are picking a forward.

The quality of players available at such an early juncture would normally suggest a faster arrival at the NHL level. Two years or less would be my guess for someone like Lindstrom (should they be lucky to select him) who is already physically mature, for instance.
It may be 3 years before a Lindstrom is contributing in a meaningful way like many big players. That's ok though. He'd be under cost control unlike anyone the Habs would get in a trade for the #5 pick. HuGo has mentioned that they want to be contenders and stability for many years. I don't know why so many are pre-occupied with the next two years.

It was virtually unanimous too. In fact it was pretty much "anybody but Brady Tkachuk".
Speak for yourself. I wasted many hours debating why we should take Tkachuk and got mocked for it. But yes...most wanted Zadina. Also there were as many people wanting Adam Boqvist as Quinn Hughes...which was a very small percentage of posters on both counts.
 
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Justin11

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It's amazing how many times Hughes has said they're not taking a LD for fans who follow this team enough to post on these boards to continually bring up drafting one with a top 5 pick.
The D's potential for this draft class are just too good to ignore, that is why I'm confident a Demidov or Lindstrom will be available at 5. Habs will draft a Fwd. No doubt.
 

morhilane

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I would be afraid that we draft a younger Anderson in Lidstrom. Hope this is not true.
Not sure how you got Anderson from what I wrote. Anderson has shit anticipation.

Also, other differences with Anderson: Lindstrom is excellent along the wall to keep the puck into the ozone, can keep possession when doing zone entries and he's usually in the right spot in the ozone when he doesn't have the puck either to finish a play or get possession back (I haven't seen much of him in the dzone to comment on that side of the ice).
 

Favster

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I don't understand how some people say Lindstrom's skating isn't great. His technique is a bit odd (stands too upright) but to me it sounds a lot like what people were saying about Leo Carlsson last summer, the concerns are unfounded. If he's available at 5 I hope Hughes runs to the stage to pick him.
 

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Sam Pollock: “If you do what the fans want, you’ll eventually be watching the games with them.”

Which is why anybody should be wary of those pushing their agendas concerning players they want.

It's alright to have preferences, I mean, I do have mines like everybody, but it's wrong when for some, it becomes personal, at that point it's not being a fan, it's being entitled.
 

CaptnNemo

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I don't understand how some people say Lindstrom's skating isn't great. His technique is a bit odd (stands too upright) but to me it sounds a lot like what people were saying about Leo Carlsson last summer, the concerns are unfounded. If he's available at 5 I hope Hughes runs to the stage to pick him.
Kind of like Slaf since he started skating with his head up straight. Gimme an other one like Slaf any day loll
 
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Habs Icing

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Here is a shift by shift I made early in the season, before he starts climbing in the rankings.


I've read two (well 3) knocks against this kid. The first is that he lacks IQ. After watching that video I don't know how anyone can say that with a straight face. He oozes IQ. The second is that he is succeeding because of his size. From the few views I saw of him (and your video confirms it) it's actually one of his flaws. He doesn't use his size - bodying checking and outmuscling the opponents. He has to learn to use his monster size to his advantage. Right now he does use his reach to protect the puck but there's so much more he can do with that size that HE DOESN'T DO RIGHT NOW.

The third knock is his health. And that's the one that concerns me, especially his back problem. However, if the medical records say he's good to good he would be my pick even with Demi-god on the table. This kid has everything to be a superstar in the NHL - especially the NHL playoffs.
 
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Benstheman

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correct, he broke Tarasenko's record for most points in the KHL by a U-18 skater by 1 pt. He also crushed the record for most games played in the KHL by a U-18 skater, as only 6 others in the KHL's history played more then 21 games in the KHL before Silayev this year. So in the last 18 years only 6 U-18 skaters have appeared in more then 21 KHL games. Tarasenko, Kuznetsov, Kaprizov, Yurov, Mukhamadullin and Kitsyn


But keep in mind that his teammate Artamonov had more then double the points but because he's a mid Nov b-day he's considered his age 18 season.

Only 5 U-19 skaters in the KHL's history have had more points in a season then Artamonov, who put up more points then Michkov in his age 18 season though in much less games. He's also the 2nd youngest to do out of the 6, Tarasenko didn't turn 18 for another month later then Artamonov.

I like to ear it. Artanamov is my choice with Winnipeg’s pick.
 
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