HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[jaffy27]

To what extent do Lindstrom 's injuries give you pause?

The docs will know better….if Habs select him it’s with their blessing

 

[waitin425]

Just tuned into the Knights Gens game to see the Knights go up 4-0 on a beauty heads up pass by Dickinson. Anyone been watching? How's Sennecke look?

 

[Rob Sense]

I don't understand how everyone want a forward no matter what with the history we have. The best pick we have make is Carey Price and the worst was Jesperi Kotkaniemi. The first one was the BPA no matter what and the second one was to fill a need.

Even if you don't need Hughes or Tkachuk, you do with it, because it's the guy to pick and in the long run everyone wins, more valuable assets/impact player you just need to be creative with it.

You don't build your team at the draft table it's a crapshoot even with a top pick if you want to build your team at the draft table you trade the pick for immediate help on a more mature players and not the potential of a young prospect; if you want something concrete you will reach your goal way faster with that.

People seem to have forget the last ERA of your next Big 3 with Hollywood Hainsey and Mike"I handle the puck like a grenade" Komisarek. We have a lot of d-man prospects but quantity doesn't mean quality we have 3 young guy with a special talent, Guhle can become a shutdown pair, Xhekaj a true heavyweight and Hutson a offensive dynamo. The first two are injury prone and the third one has size issue. After that, you have Reinbacher, Engstrom, Kornyushkov, Mailloux has potential top 4, maybe top 2 for the first one! We have 2 complete d-man in Guhle and Reinbacher, all the others have some flaws somewhere! Mailloux has all the tools in the world but how we will use him in the long run if Hutson and Matheson is here; I can't see Matheson stay if Hutson is ready in short term, I would have no use for an other offensive d-man like Barron or Mailloux knowing they will never touch the PP or close and how they respond at even strenght and their toolbox.

We need to stop thinking we are set at D, we are not even close yet. We can't keep a lead, we give 25 scoring chances each games and goalie need to do 5 miracle each games to be competitive and we can't keep the puck outside of the net in the PK! I know the young D-man will progress and become better, now it's like a jungle with the roster we have, but to believe the same pieces would become a shutdown D at maturity who will be able to contend year after year in the good window is to dream awaken! The team will change a lot in the next years and the "final" roster would not include 6 d-man coming from your prospects! When we will compete we will do like Colorado, Vegas and Tampa Bay looking for the best assets we can with what we have!

If the staff don't believe in the forward at your draft rank be creative and try to trade him for something you believe. I don't want to take a shortcut, we do the rebuild the right way, but because of their situation, I would make a call to Ottawa with a giant offer for Brady Tkachuk!
Your first + Mailloux or your first + Newhook has base to work on! Paid the big price for the guy you think who can help you to bring the next Stanley Cup and I think Tkachuk is a player like that; I would be ready to give one of my nuts to have him! With Tkachuk, everyone would be in the right chair in PP, Tkachuk-Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield on the 1st unit and Dach-Roy, 2 players who can drive the pp, on the second unit; it would be awesome and the best PP we have since 1995; HM to 2009!

I'm not sold on Newhook, not a bad player at all, but if everything goes well in 2 years it will be Newhook-Beck-Roy on the third line and if he not evolve his game to something else, became a PK guys or becoming a beast on 200 hundreds feets like Andrew Cogliano have do after understanding he was not good enough to be an offensive player, he would be a guy we need to replace for a guy like Lekhonen, a young Maroon, Paul or a young Perry because they add something valuable for a contender team more than a speedy player who can put some points on the sheets. Colorado have no use for him in their window, it will be the same case here if he don't improve and stop pencil this guy on the second line at least for the future, we are not losing since 3 years to contend with Newhook on the second line, be real for a second! I know we have lower your standard since 30 years because of the team we have over the time but it's not a reason to do the same mistake again and again!

I hope you used AI to generate that because it is a lot of work!

 

[FrankMTL]

Just tuned into the Knights Gens game to see the Knights go up 4-0 on a beauty heads up pass by Dickinson. Anyone been watching? How's Sennecke look?

He's not playing, still injured.

 

[Goldenhands]

To what extent do Lindstrom 's injuries give you pause?

I would lie if I said there is no concern at all, he still missed half of the season and clearly wasnt 100% in playoffs. But the reports looks good from what we hear. At the end, the package is too attractive for me to pass on, unless a kid like Helenius comes to shuffle the cards with a strong WC.

 

[waitin425]

He's not playing, still injured.

Thanks Frank! Noticed he wasn't out and figured that was it

 

[Andrei79]

Only 2Ds need to be off the board by our pick for us to draft either Demidov or Lindstrom.

I really, really like our chances. Teams don't often have the chance to draft high end defensemen. They will.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Dickinson has done a heck of a take charge, 1D job in these playoffs. I know if I was looking to draft a dman , he's be on top of my list, in front of the NCAA guys.

 

[Jaynki]

5 overall pick VS Matty Beniers.

Who say no?

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

5 overall pick VS Matty Beniers.

Who say no?

Seattle, for one It would be an easy win for us.

 

[McGees]

 

[No More Subban]

For what i remember many of us wanted Filip Zadina ( even the crazy chick in the crowd ).
kudos for you if you saw that Tkachuk was the best pick at #3 that year.

I still wake up in the middle of the night to imagine having Tkachuk on our rosters for years to come.
Damn it ! that would have been fun to watch .

I mean he's a Tkachuk. Keith and Matthew were great players. So I knew he was also going to be good and he's a 6ft+ center which we desperately needed at the time (and we still do).

Pretty damn sure Tij will also be a great player like his dad.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I was the only one who wanted Noah Dobson

Lol, there is a lot of "I was the only one who wanted _____ name".
Welcome to the club.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Yeah we agree Dickinson is a stud I would not be mad if he's the guy

No bad picks this year

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I mean he's a Tkachuk. Keith and Matthew were great players. So I knew he was also going to be good and he's a 6ft+ center which we desperately needed at the time (and we still do).

Pretty damn sure Tij will also be a great player like his dad.

I have the same feeling. Sometimes (like for this one) my take is my feeling, I let the flux of energy talking to me and beleive it or not, I'm right 90% of the time. What I've read this morning about Tij is he's an hard worker, when all the possible choices (for the Habs) were summerized in a short description. I like hard workers, it's almost a garanty of success because skills without hard work is nothing. These young players have a long path before making the nhl.

 

[Habs7631]

I have the same feeling. Sometimes (like for this one) my take is my feeling, I let the flux of energy talking to me and beleive it or not, I'm right 90% of the time.

What are the Lotto Max winning numbers for tomorrow?

 

[Gabouch04]

Might not be a popular take here, but if they don’t want to trade down the pick #5, it might be a possibility to draft Silayev/Dickinson if the draft go something like that

1- Celebreni to Sharks
2- Demidov to Hawks
3- Levshunov to Anaheim
4- Lindstrom to Columbus

I can see Silayev/Dickinson be high on their scouting list. Let’s remember we went BPA to select Price and it was the right choice. Let’s not act like the fact that we have a clear #1D. Reinbacher and Guhle have #2D upside and Hutson will probably be a #3D / PP specialist.

There’s no point I trading down, we have to go for quality as this point of our rebuild. When considering picking a D at 5, does it really matter that you have Struble/Harris/Mailloux/Barron/Xhekaj ? They’re most likely bottom pairing D.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

What are the Lotto Max winning numbers for tomorrow?

1-2-3-4-5-6

 

[le_sean]

Don’t understand how people conflate the reach for a CENTRE in 2018 with the need for a FORWARD in 2024. It’s not at all the same thing. Had they just said “forward no matter what” in 2018, we’d have taken Brady Tkachuk. There’s no handcuffing here, the Habs filled the pool of defencemen. So much so, they have to unload like 2 of them just this summer.

 

[Runner77]

Yeah we agree Dickinson is a stud I would not be mad if he's the guy

No bad picks this year

View attachment 868070

The issue appears to be more how good that crop in the say 11-16 range might be and whether the Habs can secure a 2nd pick in that range.

1-2-3-4-5-6

No, not your smartphone password!

Which is usually the same as your wifi and banking app passwords.

 

[Habricot]

I think people says that because Basha was the playmaker on his line while Lindstrom was the finisher. He does read the game very well thought from the shift I've seen, excellent anticipation in the ozone, even if it's mostly anticipating what Basha would do.

But even if those stats says "excellent playmaker", he's not the most creative guy with the puck. When Lindstrom has the puck, it usually goes to the net/near the net.

I would be afraid that we draft a younger Anderson in Lidstrom. Hope this is not true.

Don’t understand how people conflate the reach for a CENTRE in 2018 with the need for a FORWARD in 2024. It’s not at all the same thing. Had they just said “forward no matter what” in 2018, we’d have taken Brady Tkachuk. There’s no handcuffing here, the Habs filled the pool of defencemen. So much so, they have to unload like 2 of them just this summer.

I dont think so. If you go back to this draft and look at the comments on this board nobody wanted Tkachuck. Actually people where pushing for Zadina at number 3.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Really too bad Sennecke is hurt, was hoping we could see him back and dominate in the Memorial Cup, but Knights are too strong me thinks. Having him truly establish himself as one of the elite forwards in this draft would help me feel better about taking him. Do love the skill set, but his meteoric rise is heavily based on his epic playoffs and the concussion is putting a damper on that.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

The issue appears to be more how good that crop in the say 11-16 range might be and whether the Habs can secure a 2nd pick in that range.


No, not your smartphone password!

Which is usually the same as your wifi and banking app passwords.

1. I wonder in the history of lotteries if 1-2-3-4-5-6 ever happened? Afterall, it's a combination like any others. Only humans see that as unprobable, numbers and mathematics don't see that. Like animals don't see art like humans do.

2. A well-knowned hockey debater suggested Habs should trade their #5 pick for a young established player, similar to the Romanov-Dach trade. In the best world, the #5 pick will be ready in 3 years. His point was to accelerate the rebuilt. If a team wants the #5 pick so bad, if they really beleive in him, could they trade a young player to get that pick?

3. The second first round pick, do you beleive Habs could draft a player who could have some impact in the future or it will be like flipping a coin in the air and wish for best luck?

 

[Schooner Guy]

The Habs were able to get live viewings of Demidov in Russia.

That's great to hear! It's also great to have Bobrov on our payroll given his dad's intimate knowledge of St Petersburg SKA and their players.

 

[Runner77]

In the best world, the #5 pick will be ready in 3 years.

That’s a very conservative estimate, especially if the Habs are picking a forward.

The quality of players available at such an early juncture would normally suggest a faster arrival at the NHL level. Two years or less would be my guess for someone like Lindstrom (should they be lucky to select him) who is already physically mature, for instance.