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Whether they win or lose, that is outside of my control, but I will not be rooting for losses any longer. There’s a point where you just become the Senators or Sabres.
HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread
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Top 5 bad?
We might not be out of the woods yet, injuries can occur, regression and all that jazz.
But management seem to indicate they’ll want “progression” and I feel like they will play a part in that scenario with more moves propping up this said “progression”. Bottom 12 finish might be in the cards for the upcoming season. At least it’s more talked about by the ones that can impact it instead of the speeches from the last three seasons.
Mrb1p
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A team full of talent ? Damn, thats cool. Sens started their rebuild the same year as us.
le_sean
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But he has a point - if a rebuilding/retooling team isn’t take steps forward every year despite their young core mostly being in place, then they might not be the right core.
While this Habs team is again picking 5th, it was very obvious that they were far more competitive than the year before. The next step is to win more games in which they are competitive, which should result in picking in that 10-15 spot next year.
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le_sean
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And it’s ignorant to judge a team before they even have a chance at making offseason moves.
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He's not that gritty actually which is the only reason why he's not a slam dunk top 5 pick IMO.
He isn't a perimeter player but he doesn't play the true power forward game like his dad or the Tkachuks unfortunately. There's a small chance that he gets meaner over time but who knows.
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What do folks think of moving our late-first, plus…to get to pick 18-20 and take Michael Hage?
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I think we're outside the playoffs. Barring health issues, I don't think we're a top five drafting team next year. We have a real top line. If Dach can actually stay healthy, we'll have a good 2nd line too.
My concern is the D. Still so green. I think that's our downfall.
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I don’t know who is. I’m not, it takes the time it takes. We certainly have a much better development contingent than we had under prior management, so we have comfort in knowing that a draftee will be handled competently.
Right. Assuming we will be significantly better is also a judgment, no? Just one that you happen to like.
le_sean
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I’d like to think adding a 2C in Dach and the youngest defence in the league to improve is a rational expectation, no?
That might happen. But it also might not. So I'm left wondering why it's rational to expect it.
Mrb1p
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He is gritty. You don't have to be Tom Wilson to be considered gritty. He thrives in traffic and in the corners. He's the literal definition of gritty.
Depends on whats available. There might be similar quality at our pick, also depends on the cost.
le_sean
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Now you’re just being purposely obtuse. Have a good day, if you’re even able to
Andrei79
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Watching the bubble teams this year, saying this is a potential playoff team isn't staying much at all. Those teams were really bad.
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I guess it depends on what your definition of high pick is. With 6 more points we would have been sitting 10th OA. With a healthy Dach we are probably in that 10-12 range, is that a high pick?
Mrb1p
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Yes. Washington for one. I'm pretty sure a series between the Habs and the Caps would probably even be a 60/40 Habs even without Dach.
What teams ? Except WSH I don t think another team did not belong in the playoffs.
The Great Weal
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A lot of people forget the fact that the Devils injuries killed them because otherwise, they very clearly replace the Caps.
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Interesting comparison in terms of value.
From the potential trade partners in that range, I don't know if that many teams would entertain such a type of trade (apart from SJS as they're still pretty barren but even they will need quality over quantity sooner or later).
Devils, Sabres, Flyers, Wild and Wings will likely aspire to make the playoffs next season. I don't know enough about their holes but if one has need for young D a deal could be made but I'm not sure Harris/Barron has enough value to land a 10-15 range pick...
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Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face!
We'll see how we feel when one of Caufield, Dach, or Guhle goes down for months early in the season.
For me, I don't see this team getting much better unless they actually try to get better this offseason. If they add at least 1 top-6 W and a Vet RHD they should be in decent shape, if they add 2 top-6 W we should be in really good shape.
If we don't add anything it is almost guaranteed to be another top-10 pick
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