HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[SOLR]

Considering there could be a case made to choose any one of Buium, Dickinson or Silayev in the top 5, I disagree.

You're hindering your ability to trade down at max value if the teams you're trading with don't think you have the same target as them. It's one position, but it represents a number of the most desirable players available at the top of the order this year.

2 will be gone in the top 5, that's my point. Thus this is a complete nothingburger.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I'm calling it now... If the Canadiens keep Winnipeg's pick, we're drafting Teddy Stiga.

As a Teddy Stiga fan, I support your movement...

 

[skidcells]

MBN with a goal at the worlds. Realistically, iginla and sennecke will be gone if we want to trade back up to the 12-15 range. MBN would be my personal target at that spot. Love his game

 

[NotProkofievian]

There's a guy named Zetterberg in this draft?

Let's just draft all these former Wings. What could possibly go wrong?

Yes. He is very small. Saw him in the hall way in Espoo.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I wonder if a team would really trade up for Silayev though. He’s risky enough to select in the Top 5, I can’t imagine a team trading multiple assets to do so.

Pronman mentioned multiple scouts from NHL teams he's talked to said they'd consider him as early as 2. Seems like he has a lot of major backers in the NHL which makes sense with Bob's polls so far.

 

[morhilane]

I wonder if a team would really trade up for Silayev though. He’s risky enough to select in the Top 5, I can’t imagine a team trading multiple assets to do so.

Going by what the pundits are saying, NHL scouts/teams don't find Silayev risky if many teams are considering him at #2. If he somehow make it to #5, there is probably quite a few team ready to climb up to take him.

 

[Leto]

Really the worst case scenario for us is if Lindstrom/Demidov go with Levshunov in the top 4.

But I guess at that point you're pretty much locked in to getting paid to slide down 2-3 slots and still get Iginla/Sennecke.

I would gladly overpay Chicago to get the Russian kid. My proposal would something like this :

• 5th OV
• 1st 2024 WPG
• Joshua Roy
• One of Struble , Harris or Barron.

In the words of Bergevin, that's me trying to make a PlayStation trade .

 

[le_sean]

I feel like this might play into their desicion making

Unless Demidov is on a tier by himself and a clear and undisputed 2, I think they go D

While they are all smaller, none of them other than Bedard and Nazar inspire much confidence moving forward. The Hawks are lacking talent everywhere.

I think what plays more in their decision making is that next year they should be just as bad and there are better forward than defence options.

 

[WeThreeKings]

While they are all smaller, none of them other than Bedard and Nazar inspire much confidence moving forward. The Hawks are lacking talent everywhere.

I think what plays more in their decision making is that next year they should be just as bad and there are better forward than defence options.

Levshunov would be tough to turn down for them.. but then it's really just allowing Columbus to go Demidov at 4.

What it might do is allow Anaheim to be open to trading down to Montreal.

They may feel better at taking Helenius/Yakemchuk at 5. We get Demidov at 3, and CBJ gets Silayev.

 

[le_sean]

Going by what the pundits are saying, NHL scouts/teams don't find Silayev risky if many teams are considering him at #2. If he somehow make it to #5, there is probably quite a few team ready to climb up to take him.

I get it gambling if you have a pick there already, it’s a big gamble. But I find trading up to get him if you’re outside the Top 5 would be an even bigger gamble on a guy we know will be an NHLer, but at what capacity? Just not a move I’d personally make as a GM

 

[Runner77]

I wonder if a team would really trade up for Silayev though. He’s risky enough to select in the Top 5, I can’t imagine a team trading multiple assets to do so.

That could be good news for the Habs if the pick being transacted belongs to a team drafting 2-4, and say that team favored drafting a forward but got an offer too good to turn down.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I get it gambling if you have a pick there already, it’s a big gamble. But I find trading up to get him if you’re outside the Top 5 would be an even bigger gamble on a guy we know will be an NHLer, but at what capacity? Just not a move I’d personally make as a GM

I personally wouldn't take him top 10 but if NHL scouts and GMs see him as a clear top 4 player in the draft, some at 2, then paying a high 2nd to jump up 2 spots and get your guy isn't that horrible.

 

[McGees]

I wonder who our Swedish scout will pound the table for this year. He's produced interesting picks 2 years in a row now.

LUKAS VEJDEMO MAY STILL PAN OUT!

 

[Takeru]

Plus how many Top 5 picks truly need 3 years of development anymore before being in the NHL? At most they seem to need 2. Of course they develop further in the NHL, but they still have an impact far earlier these days.

Right, especially a forward. At most a year back in whatever junior league + maybe another in AHL and brought up by the end or following season.
Maybe 1-2 NHL season before having a significant impact depending how long he spent in lower leagues.
Plus the bonus of having that player on his ELC and 1st RFA contract.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

That's an enticing idea on paper, until you start trying to find that specific team that has a young established player they spent time developping and would now rather turn back the clock and take a chance on a younger less proven player in hopes of getting better value.

Very specific circumstances needed for that to happen, I feel the bar was set unrealistically high with the Dach trade on year 1, people expect that kind of high impact trade each year. (Newhook was similar but not as high value).

CHI was going full scorched earth mode back then even though they'd had a recent top 3 pick with some injury history which is why they were willing to let him go. I don't see another team with an equivalent incentive and asset, do you?

That debater was talking of Mason McTavish of Anaheim Ducks.
3rd overall in 2021. 88 pts in 153 games played and a -38. Not that impressive. A top scout should be needed to evaluate that player, he's playing for a bottom team. But he said it's just an example, there can be other players.
That debater is among the worst of the medias and he said very stupid things in the past. His initials are NF.

I'm not agree with him cuz this year there are very interresting players available at #5 and even interresting at #10 spot.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Also, don't be shocked if Yakemchuk's name starts popping up for Chicago or Anaheim.

If you like Levshunov there is no reason why you wouldn't also be interested in Yakemchuk. Yakemchuk is a mean and tough SOB, someone I really see Verbeek liking, and Chicago has always really trusted their whl scouts with great success.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

That’s a very conservative estimate, especially if the Habs are picking a forward.

The quality of players available at such an early juncture would normally suggest a faster arrival at the NHL level. Two years or less would be my guess for someone like Lindstrom (should they be lucky to select him) who is already physically mature, for instance.

Yeah maybe too conservative. I should have said in 2 years and Slaf is a good example. If Slaf was picked 1rst in a bad year, what would be a 5th in a good year? Comparable?

Another point, sometimes high picks tends to developp slowly, like Lafreniere for example. Seems like just this PO this year he's showing he have matured. And folks on HFB kept bashing him for a while. I often write wait and see. I often write patience in some cases. Posters like Rehab doesn't listen to me, lol. Sorry Rehab, .

 

[Habs Icing]

I would gladly overpay Chicago to get the Russian kid. My proposal would something like this :

• 5th OV
• 1st 2024 WPG
• Joshua Roy
• One of Struble , Harris or Barron.

In the words of Bergevin, that's me trying to make a PlayStation trade .

This is a strange post. Rejean Houle quoting Bergevin.

The difference between Demidov & Lindstrom =/= 2nd - (5th + 27th + Roy + Struble/Harris/Barron)

 

[Hannibal]

If Chicago picks Lev, does CLB pick Demidov? I think so.

I think we have a legit chance of Lindstrom to us.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If Chicago picks Lev, does CLB pick Demidov? I think so.

I think we have a legit chance of Lindstrom to us.

It's looking good as of today for Lindstrom to be ours.

I'd hug your ass on draft night if it happens.

 

[Leto]

This is a strange post. Rejean Houle quoting Bergevin.

The difference between Demidov & Lindstrom =/= 2nd - (5th + 27th + Roy + Struble/Harris/Barron)

I was being facetious, it is not a serious proposal. The very notion of trading within the top 5 has not happened in recent memory. You would have to go back to 2008 when the Leafs traded to get the 5th OV. I am cool with whomever we get at the 5th spot, be it Lindstrom, Iginla or somebody else.​

 

[CaptnNemo]

It's looking good as of today for Lindstrom to be ours.

I'd hug your ass on draft night if it happens.

Whomever Columbus picks the other one will be ours win/win as far as I'm concern as I would be happy with any of the two.

 

[Mrb1p]

If Chicago picks Lev, does CLB pick Demidov? I think so.

I think we have a legit chance of Lindstrom to us.

Tough to say, but I think Anaheim picks Demidov.

 

[Hannibal]

My early top 5 mock draft:

Celebrini
Levshunov
Silayev
Demidov
Lindrstrom

Demidov + Fantilli duo could be deadly for CLB

 

[Runner77]

Listening to Preds scout Jean-Philippe Glaude who is an 11-year scout with the Preds, he states like many others have, that this draft, there is no consensus after the 1st pick (and sheds some light on Lindstrom and Iginla, among others).

Tij Iginla a tous les outils

Jean-Philippe Glaude discute des meilleurs espoirs en vue du prochain repêchage.

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Which makes Iginla a possibility, esp. if Demidov and Lindstrom are off the table at Pick 5.

Some attributes:

- serious, good work ethic
- explosive
- natural goal scorer
- good frame (6’, 186 lbs at age 17)
- disciplined
- has likely mental makeup to play in fishbowl market
- prepped by father in the off season, optimally trained, always looking to improve

I’ve seen him listed as a C/ LW. How comfortable is he as a C?