HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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Some NHL people were also aware he had been accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent during a game in 2021, which he has denied. He was initially suspended after that allegation, though the suspension was not upheld, with the disciplinary committee for the California Amateur Hockey Association writing that the allegation could not be corroborated. Connelly told The Athletic he doesn’t use racial slurs. Some teams were also aware that Connelly had been involved with four amateur programs from 2020-22, an unusually vagabond career for a player with his talent; one of those stops, at Bishop Kearney, a high school in Rochester, N.Y., with a select hockey program, lasted less than two weeks.

Connelly played six seasons for the Anaheim (Calif.) Jr. Ducks, ending with the 2018-19 season when Connelly was around 13, and The Athletic interviewed more than a dozen parents who had a child who was a teammate of Connelly’s during at least one of those seasons. Ten of those parents said they witnessed behavior by Connelly that they considered troubling, and eight of those 10 parents described Connelly’s actions as bullying.

Four parents said they saw Connelly punch a teammate during practice; three of those parents said they saw it happen multiple times. It was usually in response to Connelly getting frustrated, those three parents say, such as when he lost a puck battle or a teammate wouldn’t allow him to cut in line during a drill. Five parents said he would slash teammates with his stick out of frustration. Four of those five parents said they also saw him slew-foot players — trip an opponent from behind with a leg or foot.

Individually, those incidents are not unheard of at the highest levels of youth hockey. And some parents chalked up Connelly’s behavior to the fact that he was intensively competitive. However, the incidents were frequent enough that eight parents said that at some point they felt concern for the well-being of their son or that of other players.

Parents said Connelly also picked on some teammates in the locker room and away from the rink. He seemed to focus on players who were small in stature and/or were among the less talented members of the team, according to eight parents. He would make fun of their appearance, tell them they were not good players and that they didn’t belong on the team, among other insults. “He wasn’t just a troublemaker; it wasn’t just that. He was mean,” said one parent.

One mother said her son avoided team activities, like bus rides or team meals, to avoid being around Connelly more than was necessary. Another mother said her son asked to not stay at the team hotel because he didn’t want to be around Connelly. Yet another parent said she went so far as to ask her son to assist a player Connelly repeatedly picked on. “It’s frustrating when you have to tell your kid to protect his teammate from another teammate,” she said. Two players left the Anaheim Jr. Ducks program prior to or during or the 2017-18 season in part because of how they were treated by Connelly, according to three parents associated with that program.

In 2020, Connelly, then 14, enrolled at Bishop Kearney, which started a boys select hockey program during the pandemic, drawing top players from around the country. Almost immediately, the school suspended Connelly, but he left Bishop Kearney shortly thereafter. A public relations official working with the family said that all that should be written about Connelly’s short stint at the school is: “He was there for a week and he left.”

Sources involved in the school’s hockey program said that Connelly was suspended after urinating on another student’s belongings, among other alleged acts. One source said Connelly was acting in response to hazing that Connelly had received earlier. That source said he witnessed the hazing Connelly endured and also saw students tease Connelly about being hazed.

Connelly instead joined Anaheim’s Jr. Ice Dogs, and in April 2021, when he was 15 and playing for that team versus the L.A. Jr. Kings, he was accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent. What happened remains in dispute. The player came off the ice “so visibly shaken and upset with tears streaming down his face after the incident that I had to sit him for the remainder of the first period so he could collect himself,” according to an email his coach, Brett Beebe, sent to Pacific District official Wayne Sawchuk, which was viewed by The Athletic.
Thanks for the info. DND is a fair assessment
 

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Some NHL people were also aware he had been accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent during a game in 2021, which he has denied. He was initially suspended after that allegation, though the suspension was not upheld, with the disciplinary committee for the California Amateur Hockey Association writing that the allegation could not be corroborated. Connelly told The Athletic he doesn’t use racial slurs. Some teams were also aware that Connelly had been involved with four amateur programs from 2020-22, an unusually vagabond career for a player with his talent; one of those stops, at Bishop Kearney, a high school in Rochester, N.Y., with a select hockey program, lasted less than two weeks.

Connelly played six seasons for the Anaheim (Calif.) Jr. Ducks, ending with the 2018-19 season when Connelly was around 13, and The Athletic interviewed more than a dozen parents who had a child who was a teammate of Connelly’s during at least one of those seasons. Ten of those parents said they witnessed behavior by Connelly that they considered troubling, and eight of those 10 parents described Connelly’s actions as bullying.

Four parents said they saw Connelly punch a teammate during practice; three of those parents said they saw it happen multiple times. It was usually in response to Connelly getting frustrated, those three parents say, such as when he lost a puck battle or a teammate wouldn’t allow him to cut in line during a drill. Five parents said he would slash teammates with his stick out of frustration. Four of those five parents said they also saw him slew-foot players — trip an opponent from behind with a leg or foot.

Individually, those incidents are not unheard of at the highest levels of youth hockey. And some parents chalked up Connelly’s behavior to the fact that he was intensively competitive. However, the incidents were frequent enough that eight parents said that at some point they felt concern for the well-being of their son or that of other players.

Parents said Connelly also picked on some teammates in the locker room and away from the rink. He seemed to focus on players who were small in stature and/or were among the less talented members of the team, according to eight parents. He would make fun of their appearance, tell them they were not good players and that they didn’t belong on the team, among other insults. “He wasn’t just a troublemaker; it wasn’t just that. He was mean,” said one parent.

One mother said her son avoided team activities, like bus rides or team meals, to avoid being around Connelly more than was necessary. Another mother said her son asked to not stay at the team hotel because he didn’t want to be around Connelly. Yet another parent said she went so far as to ask her son to assist a player Connelly repeatedly picked on. “It’s frustrating when you have to tell your kid to protect his teammate from another teammate,” she said. Two players left the Anaheim Jr. Ducks program prior to or during or the 2017-18 season in part because of how they were treated by Connelly, according to three parents associated with that program.

In 2020, Connelly, then 14, enrolled at Bishop Kearney, which started a boys select hockey program during the pandemic, drawing top players from around the country. Almost immediately, the school suspended Connelly, but he left Bishop Kearney shortly thereafter. A public relations official working with the family said that all that should be written about Connelly’s short stint at the school is: “He was there for a week and he left.”

Sources involved in the school’s hockey program said that Connelly was suspended after urinating on another student’s belongings, among other alleged acts. One source said Connelly was acting in response to hazing that Connelly had received earlier. That source said he witnessed the hazing Connelly endured and also saw students tease Connelly about being hazed.

Connelly instead joined Anaheim’s Jr. Ice Dogs, and in April 2021, when he was 15 and playing for that team versus the L.A. Jr. Kings, he was accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent. What happened remains in dispute. The player came off the ice “so visibly shaken and upset with tears streaming down his face after the incident that I had to sit him for the remainder of the first period so he could collect himself,” according to an email his coach, Brett Beebe, sent to Pacific District official Wayne Sawchuk, which was viewed by The Athletic.
Yeah,

f*** this guy. No way.
 

Schooner Guy

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We're talking about someone who was 13, 14, and 15.

Some kids are angry bullies at that age. And then they mature.
It isn't normal for a kid to get kicked off that many teams without at some point learning a lesson. The chronic bullying is disturbingly extreme. The racial slurs and swastika debacle take it to a new level. This kid has serious issues that are bigger than hockey.

Being a really good hockey player isn't enough reason to draft him. Not to mention the PR disaster this would cause in Montreal.
 

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Too bad about Catton and Lindstrom being out of the U18 tourney. I wonder if this will affect their ability to go through the testing at the Combine.
 

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Some NHL people were also aware he had been accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent during a game in 2021, which he has denied. He was initially suspended after that allegation, though the suspension was not upheld, with the disciplinary committee for the California Amateur Hockey Association writing that the allegation could not be corroborated. Connelly told The Athletic he doesn’t use racial slurs. Some teams were also aware that Connelly had been involved with four amateur programs from 2020-22, an unusually vagabond career for a player with his talent; one of those stops, at Bishop Kearney, a high school in Rochester, N.Y., with a select hockey program, lasted less than two weeks.

Connelly played six seasons for the Anaheim (Calif.) Jr. Ducks, ending with the 2018-19 season when Connelly was around 13, and The Athletic interviewed more than a dozen parents who had a child who was a teammate of Connelly’s during at least one of those seasons. Ten of those parents said they witnessed behavior by Connelly that they considered troubling, and eight of those 10 parents described Connelly’s actions as bullying.

Four parents said they saw Connelly punch a teammate during practice; three of those parents said they saw it happen multiple times. It was usually in response to Connelly getting frustrated, those three parents say, such as when he lost a puck battle or a teammate wouldn’t allow him to cut in line during a drill. Five parents said he would slash teammates with his stick out of frustration. Four of those five parents said they also saw him slew-foot players — trip an opponent from behind with a leg or foot.

Individually, those incidents are not unheard of at the highest levels of youth hockey. And some parents chalked up Connelly’s behavior to the fact that he was intensively competitive. However, the incidents were frequent enough that eight parents said that at some point they felt concern for the well-being of their son or that of other players.

Parents said Connelly also picked on some teammates in the locker room and away from the rink. He seemed to focus on players who were small in stature and/or were among the less talented members of the team, according to eight parents. He would make fun of their appearance, tell them they were not good players and that they didn’t belong on the team, among other insults. “He wasn’t just a troublemaker; it wasn’t just that. He was mean,” said one parent.

One mother said her son avoided team activities, like bus rides or team meals, to avoid being around Connelly more than was necessary. Another mother said her son asked to not stay at the team hotel because he didn’t want to be around Connelly. Yet another parent said she went so far as to ask her son to assist a player Connelly repeatedly picked on. “It’s frustrating when you have to tell your kid to protect his teammate from another teammate,” she said. Two players left the Anaheim Jr. Ducks program prior to or during or the 2017-18 season in part because of how they were treated by Connelly, according to three parents associated with that program.

In 2020, Connelly, then 14, enrolled at Bishop Kearney, which started a boys select hockey program during the pandemic, drawing top players from around the country. Almost immediately, the school suspended Connelly, but he left Bishop Kearney shortly thereafter. A public relations official working with the family said that all that should be written about Connelly’s short stint at the school is: “He was there for a week and he left.”

Sources involved in the school’s hockey program said that Connelly was suspended after urinating on another student’s belongings, among other alleged acts. One source said Connelly was acting in response to hazing that Connelly had received earlier. That source said he witnessed the hazing Connelly endured and also saw students tease Connelly about being hazed.

Connelly instead joined Anaheim’s Jr. Ice Dogs, and in April 2021, when he was 15 and playing for that team versus the L.A. Jr. Kings, he was accused of directing a racial slur at an opponent. What happened remains in dispute. The player came off the ice “so visibly shaken and upset with tears streaming down his face after the incident that I had to sit him for the remainder of the first period so he could collect himself,” according to an email his coach, Brett Beebe, sent to Pacific District official Wayne Sawchuk, which was viewed by The Athletic.
He also took a dump in a teammate’s hockey bag while on the Long Island Gulls a couple of years ago.
 

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Sloppy steaks, white ferraris, live for new year's eve.

I just don't think people can change to that degree
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It doesn't sound like they will. But we'll see if what they do corresponds with how things sound.

I think that it would be a mistake to avoid Dickinson Buium if they think they are BPA. To me it s like saying let s not take Dickinson because we have Guhle Hutson Struble is like saying let s not take Josi because we have McDonagh Girard and Edmundson.
 

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I think that it would be a mistake to avoid Dickinson Buium if they think they are BPA. To me it s like saying let s not take Dickinson because we have Guhle Hutson Struble is like saying let s not take Josi because we have McDonagh Girard and Edmundson.

Exactly.

It's like saying let's not take Quinn Hughes or Noah Dobson or Brady Tkachuk because we're desperate for a center, so we'll choose between KK and nd Barrett Hayton.

I mean, it really depends on how good you think the available D's are and how good you think the available wingers are.

But back to the D, especially since Guhle can play the right side, the left side is then Matheson, Xhekaj, and Struble or Hutson. Makes me think we really should go full rebuild and trade Matheson for a lottery pick, if it's an option, and use it to move up and get two of these stud prospects. This year good players should be at least available at 12 and 13.
 

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I think that it would be a mistake to avoid Dickinson Buium if they think they are BPA. To me it s like saying let s not take Dickinson because we have Guhle Hutson Struble is like saying let s not take Josi because we have McDonagh Girard and Edmundson.
There's been some talk about Dickinson not really improving his play through the year as much as you'd hope to see. Not that he's necessarily been stagnant, but apparently there hasn't been much growth or many notable additions to his game.

While I haven't followed him closely enough to speak to that issues directly, it's not something you want to hear when making a big call like that. He seems to project quite similarly to Reinbacher.
 

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I’ve been a big Barron hopeful fan for a while but he’s not connecting the dots at all. This leaves a lot riding on Mailloux, not sure if this management team are even interested in the circus that will come with his debut as he should’ve arguably been called up this year ahead of Struble or Barrron and wasn’t.

Prepping myself for a RHD pick at 5
 

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There's been some talk about Dickinson not really improving his play through the year as much as you'd hope to see. Not that he's necessarily been stagnant, but apparently there hasn't been much growth or many notable additions to his game.

While I haven't followed him closely enough to speak to that issues directly, it's not something you want to hear when making a big call like that. He seems to project quite similarly to Reinbacher.
I hear those comments and then I see he is not yet 18 plays top pairing minutes on a very good team, while score at PPG pace, being +56. I similarly dislike the comments about Silayev stagnating (and I am not as high as Goldenhands on him) but he has been playing in the KHL and not seeming out of place as a 17 year old. It is much easier to see an improving arc for a forward scoring at PPG in the second half of a season vs 0.5 before than to see the improvement for a Dman. From everything I read and seeDickinson and Buium have top pair potential. Hard to pass on that
 
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There's been some talk about Dickinson not really improving his play through the year as much as you'd hope to see. Not that he's necessarily been stagnant, but apparently there hasn't been much growth or many notable additions to his game.

While I haven't followed him closely enough to speak to that issues directly, it's not something you want to hear when making a big call like that. He seems to project quite similarly to Reinbacher.
I think the point is that it would be shortsighted to pick a player based on need if there's a player available that our hockey ops rate as a higher tiered player. None of these kids other than Celebrini are going to contribute in any meaningful way to the Habs for another 2-3 years. We're loaded in assets and have the goods to make trades to address needs.
 

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There's been some talk about Dickinson not really improving his play through the year as much as you'd hope to see. Not that he's necessarily been stagnant, but apparently there hasn't been much growth or many notable additions to his game.

While I haven't followed him closely enough to speak to that issues directly, it's not something you want to hear when making a big call like that. He seems to project quite similarly to Reinbacher.
Dickinson will fall like Chychrun, not to 16 but probably to 10
 
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