HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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Lafleurs Guy

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I really love the idea of Lidstrom. He’d be a makeup for passing on Tkachuk. Big power forward. We don’t really have that in our lineup right now. Slaf is developing nicely but he doesn’t have the mean edge that Lidstrom seems to have. I just hope the scoring talent can live up to the physical talent.
 

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I really love the idea of Lidstrom. He’d be a makeup for passing on Tkachuk. Big power forward. We don’t really have that in our lineup right now. Slaf is developing nicely but he doesn’t have the mean edge that Lidstrom seems to have. I just hope the scoring talent can live up to the physical talent.

I think a lot will depend on where Lindstrom goes.. and it may be the best thing for his career if he ends up with us and our skill coaches.

I really feel like his potential would be wasted in Columbus where they can't develop anyone up front.
 

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I really love the idea of Lidstrom. He’d be a makeup for passing on Tkachuk. Big power forward. We don’t really have that in our lineup right now. Slaf is developing nicely but he doesn’t have the mean edge that Lidstrom seems to have. I just hope the scoring talent can live up to the physical talent.
He's been my choice for most of year.
Hoping the injury drops him a few spots as I pictured him top 3 before injury.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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I think a lot will depend on where Lindstrom goes.. and it may be the best thing for his career if he ends up with us and our skill coaches.

I really feel like his potential would be wasted in Columbus where they can't develop anyone up front.
Our skill coaches didn’t hurt Slaf, I don’t think it would hurt Lidstrom.
 

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Current top 32.
Name
Position
League
Macklin Celebrini​
C
NCAA
Ivan Demidov​
F​
MHL​
Cayden Lindstrom​
C​
WHL​
Sam Dickinson​
LHD​
OHL​
Berkly Catton​
C​
WHL​
Zayne Parekh​
RHD​
OHL​
Artyom Levshunov​
RHD​
NCAA​
Tij Iginla​
LW​
WHL​
Cole Eiserman​
LW​
USHL​
Konsta Helenius​
C​
Liiga​
Michael Brandsegg-Nygard​
LW​
Allsvenskan​
Carter Yakemchuk​
RHD​
WHL​
Anton Silayev​
LHD​
KHL​
Zeev Buium​
LHD​
NCAA​
Adam Jiricek​
RHD​
Czechia​
Emil Hemming​
RW​
Liiga​
Liam Greentree​
RW​
OHL​
Sacha Boisvert​
C​
USHL​
Beckett Sennecke​
RW​
OHL​
Nikita Artamonov​
C​
KHL​
Michael Hage​
C​
USHL​
Andrew Basha​
C​
WHL​
Dean Letourneau​
C​
PHC​
Ryder Ritchie​
C​
WHL​
Terik Parascak​
RW​
WHL​
Igor Chernyshov​
LW​
MHL​
Matvei Gridin​
LW​
USHL​
Yegor Surin​
C​
MHL​
Cole Hutson​
LHD​
USHL​
Trevor Connelly​
F​
USHL​
Henry Mews​
RHD​
OHL​
Alfons Freij​
LHD​
J20​

You have Iginla in your Top 8 now you magnificent bastard.

 

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No one is taking Helenius, a projected middle 6 forward, in the top 9.
Helenius has more skills than Lindstrom, Im not sure why you think he's a middle 6 forward.
Greentree reminds me of Robertson. Habs could trade down, pick up a top 6 forward for doing so along with draft next Robertson
He has a lot of snarl to his game, Robertson is a bit soft and a bit of a perimeter player, Liam goes hard in the corners and is always around the paint. Very little doubt in my mind there's a player in there. He reminds me a lot of Joshua Roy and Corey Perry actually. A little bit of Wood too.
 

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Helenius has more skills than Lindstrom, Im not sure why you think he's a middle 6 forward.

He has a lot of snarl to his game, Robertson is a bit soft and a bit of a perimeter player, Liam goes hard in the corners and is always around the paint. Very little doubt in my mind there's a player in there. He reminds me a lot of Joshua Roy and Corey Perry actually. A little bit of Wood too.
I’ve read conflicting reports on Greentree. Either here or another forum there’s a guy that follows Windsor and he says he is very passive player. Others find he is involved in the play. In any case, the one constant is he has great iq and poor skating, which is actually a good combo. The poor skaters that have made in the nhl all have elite hockey iq to compensate.
 

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Helenius likely to go to the Worlds rather than the U18s.. gonna make that skill level evaluation even tougher.
That would be good news for his own draft stock. Few kids in their draft year can make the WC, last year Leo Carlsson (2nd OV), Adam Fantilli (3rd OV), David Reinbacher (5th OV). 2022 Slafkovsky (1st OV), Jiricek (6th OV), Nemec (2nd OV). 2021: Owen Power (1st OV) Beniers (2nd OV). 2020: None.

You guys are selling the kid short, 36 pts in 51 GP, 0,71 ppg, 6pts in 6 playoffs games in Liiga. Kid was centering Jukurit 2nd line and was trusted by the coach with a lead or a deficit at any moments of the game.

Kid statistically outperformed Slafkovsky and many other great NHLers in Liiga their draft year.

The toolkit is what makes this player special, he isnt elite at anything, but if you combine his talent level with his skating, motor, compete level and IQ, you get a great top 6 who helps you winning games. He is one of the best players in this draft in tight areas, his puck management is high end level, he has quick hands and processes the game at a very high level. He is relentless on pucks, has great anticipation, great positioning, great pace and just forces his opponents to mistakes or puck losses. He is great at keeping possession, very hard to steal the puck from despite his smallish frame. Has great body strength and wins alot of puck battles in all 3 zones. I would add that he is absolutely great in transition and his passing rate very very high.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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That would be good news for his own draft stock. Few kids in their draft year can make the WC, last year Leo Carlsson (2nd OV), Adam Fantilli (3rd OV), David Reinbacher (5th OV). 2022 Slafkovsky (1st OV), Jiricek (6th OV), Nemec (2nd OV). 2021: Owen Power (1st OV) Beniers (2nd OV). 2020: None.

You guys are selling the guy short, 36 pts in 51 GP, 0,71 ppg, 6pts in 6 playoffs games in Liiga. Kid was centering Jukutit 2nd line and was trusted by the coach with a lead or a deficit at any moments of the game.

Kid statistically outperformed Slafkovsky and many other great NHLers in Liiga their draft year.

The toolkit is what makes this player special, he isnt elite at anything, but if you combine his talent level with his skating, motor, compete level and IQ, you get a great top 6 who helps you winning games. He is one of the best players in this draft in tight areas, his puck management is high end level, he has quick hands and processes the game at a very high level. He is relentless on pucks, has great anticipation, great positioning, great pace and just forces his opponents to mistakes or puck losses. He is great at keeping possession, very hard to steal the puck from despite his smallish frame. Has great body strength and wins alot of puck battles in all 3 zones.
Sounds like a solid player.

One thing I'd say though is that Montreal really needs is an elite scorer. We've needed it forever. Maybe we've got it in the lineup and don't know it but we need a guy who's really good at scoring.

This guy would be such a Montreal pick. :laugh: Not great at anything but a solid player. Cool, but you can't blame people for not being excited.

Again, I'll defer to the team and our scouts. They know what they're doing. If we draft this guy, great. I'll support it. But I'd be so much more excited about taking a Lidstrom or an Eiserman. Maybe they aren't the all around player but they bring a dimension the club really needs.
 
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John B

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I’ve read conflicting reports on Greentree. Either here or another forum there’s a guy that follows Windsor and he says he is very passive player. Others find he is involved in the play. In any case, the one constant is he has great iq and poor skating, which is actually a good combo. The poor skaters that have made in the nhl all have elite hockey iq to compensate.
I've seen him live a couple times, and on TV a bit more. He has skill, but he doesn't stand out much. He's not flashy at all. I've seen a lot of Spitfire players over the years, and he looks very blue collar. Not sure he's anything more than a 3rd liner in the NHL if he can improve his skating. I liked Vilardi (who also had skating issues) a lot more. He was much more noticeable out there.

Greentree isn't a bad gamble, but I don't think he has a real high ceiling.
 
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Sounds like a solid player.

One thing I'd say though is that Montreal really needs is an elite scorer. We've needed it forever. Maybe we've got it in the lineup and don't know it but we need a guy who's really good at scoring.

This guy would be such a Montreal pick. :laugh: Not great at anything but a solid player. Cool, but you can't blame people for not being excited.

Again, I'll defer to the team and our scouts. They know what they're doing. If we draft this guy, great. I'll support it. But I'd be so much more excited about taking a Lidstrom or an Eiserman. Maybe they aren't the all around player but they bring a dimension the club really needs.
Eiserman's decision making under pressure is execrable and his game away from the puck a major work in progress, I would rather trade up for a kid like Hemming if you want goalscoring, he is bigger, faster and less of a risk than using a top 8 pick on Eiserman IMO.

As for Lindstrom, well I agree, the package is just too attractive and the top 6 would get bigger, something you need in playoffs. But I would be absolutely thrilled with Helenius as well.
 
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