HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[LaP]

They should not do it this year. Not something they should force to do every year.

We have no forwards prospects, it’s time to draft some.

If it's for a Newhook they should keep the pick.

 

[sampollock]

If it's for a Newhook they should keep the pick.

better be a bigger size of a version of newhook though

 

[WeThreeKings]

If it's for a Newhook they should keep the pick.

Nah if they can get another young middle 6 winger for a late 1st you do it every time, chances of that pick hitting at the same level is very very low.

 

[LaP]

Nah if they can get another young middle 6 winger for a late 1st you do it every time, chances of that pick hitting at the same level is very very low.

But where that player will play? You can't have 10 middle six players in a lineup and middle six players without size tend to not be very valuable trade wise. We already have Dac, Newhook and Roy who all look like NHLer who will play a role on the 2nd and 3rd line. Beck should join that group eventually too imo. Mesar still got the potential to be one. And we still need to add one solid bone fide top 6 talent. There's no room for an extra Newhook unless he has size and you wont get a Newhook with size for a end of 1st round pick.

 

[crosbyshow]

If we pick between 5th to 8th and Bobrov don't pick Catton if he is still availlaible because of his size......I'll destroy my tv....lol

I was all in for Quinn Hughes 3rd overall in 2018 and I am all in for Catton from 3rd overall this year.

This dude is smart, has a lot of creativity..Iq off the chart.

He makes people around him better

 

[WeThreeKings]

But where that player will play? You can't have 10 middle six players in a lineup and middle six players without size tend to not be very valuable trade wise. We already have Dac, Newhook and Roy who all look like NHLer who will play a role on the 2nd and 3rd line. Beck should join that group eventually too imo. Mesar still got the potential to be one. And we still need to add one solid bone fide top 6 talent. There's no room for an extra Newhook unless he has size and you wont get a Newhook with size for a end of 1st round pick.

Where would the prospect play if he made it and all those guys did too?

If you can get certainty, you should do it.

I would like them to draft with it too, I'm a draft junkie but if there's an opportunity to grab a Kent Johnson, you do it.

 

[LaP]

Where would the prospect play if he made it and all those guys did too?

If you can get certainty, you should do it.

I would like them to draft with it too, I'm a draft junkie but if there's an opportunity to grab a Kent Johnson, you do it.

We have four 1st round picks in the next two years. Some of them will fail. But i'd rather take a gamble and have 4 plate appearances. If we talk 4 times we have more chance to win the jackpot. Unless we can get something special with that pick i'd gamble and give my drafting team more chances to go to the plate.

 

[Naslund]

Winnipeg losing again today, and they play Edmonton next.

 

[Goldenhands]

If we pick between 5th to 8th and Bobrov don't pick Catton if he is still availlaible because of his size......I'll destroy my tv....lol

I was all in for Quinn Hughes 3rd overall in 2018 and I am all in for Catton from 3rd overall this year.

This dude is smart, has a lot of creativity..Iq off the chart.

He makes people around him better

Plan your budget for a brand new TV. Kidding.

 

[crosbyshow]

Plan your budget for a brand new TV. Kidding.

Lollll

 

[ryan callahan]

If we can find a way to add Brandsegg Nygard to our hopeful top 5 pick it would be absolutely incredible. Can't see MBN falling out of the lottery though.

 

[Mrb1p]

But where that player will play? You can't have 10 middle six players in a lineup and middle six players without size tend to not be very valuable trade wise. We already have Dac, Newhook and Roy who all look like NHLer who will play a role on the 2nd and 3rd line. Beck should join that group eventually too imo. Mesar still got the potential to be one. And we still need to add one solid bone fide top 6 talent. There's no room for an extra Newhook unless he has size and you wont get a Newhook with size for a end of 1st round pick.

I mean, you can pretty much have 9 middle six forwards and be a contender if you have a decent top line. Nick, Slaf, Cole, Roy and Dach are all top 6er, we need to find 4-6 more forwards to fill the spots Newhook and maybe RHP and Beck are going to cover. I wouldn't take back just anyone but adding another young forward that will gel and grow with this group isn't a bad idea at all, waiting 5 years for the pick to maybe pan out is not all that exciting to me.

Depending on what is available on either end of course. Lets not close any windows here.

If we pick between 5th to 8th and Bobrov don't pick Catton if he is still availlaible because of his size......I'll destroy my tv....lol

I was all in for Quinn Hughes 3rd overall in 2018 and I am all in for Catton from 3rd overall this year.

This dude is smart, has a lot of creativity..Iq off the chart.

He makes people around him better

I mean, I like Catton too, but there's like 10 other players I want too. If they pass on Catton I won't be mad unless it's like... Dickinson I guess ? And even he himself is an outstanding prospect.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I mean, I like Catton too, but there's like 10 other players I want too. If they pass on Catton I won't be mad unless it's like... Dickinson I guess ? And even he himself is an outstanding prospect.

It's crazy because other than Macklin or Demidov, my only other special players available are Catton and Dickinson. All other prospects have too many question marks that I don't like.

 

[Mrb1p]

It's crazy because other than Macklin or Demidov, my only other special players available are Catton and Dickinson. All other prospects have too many question marks that I don't like.

I think you're stretching the definition of special if you include Dickinson. Sure, he's good, but he's not special, there's at the very least a player like him in every draft, if not more. Last year there was Reinbacher, 2022 had Jiricek, Nemec and Mintyukov, 2021 had Sanderson and Guhle.

 

[LaP]

I mean, you can pretty much have 9 middle six forwards and be a contender if you have a decent top line. Nick, Slaf, Cole, Roy and Dach are all top 6er, we need to find 4-6 more forwards to fill the spots Newhook and maybe RHP and Beck are going to cover. I wouldn't take back just anyone but adding another young forward that will gel and grow with this group isn't a bad idea at all, waiting 5 years for the pick to maybe pan out is not all that exciting to me.

Depending on what is available on either end of course. Lets not close any windows here.

I mean, I like Catton too, but there's like 10 other players I want too. If they pass on Catton I won't be mad unless it's like... Dickinson I guess ? And even he himself is an outstanding prospect.

You need more than a decent top lines. You need guys able to score 40+ and do 80+ if you go down that route. I'd rather draft 4 kids in the next two drafts than hope for the best with Caufield, Suzuki and Slaf. Middle six players without size are not hard to find at all we can address that after 2025 without any issues.

 

[LaP]

I mean, you can pretty much have 9 middle six forwards and be a contender if you have a decent top line. Nick, Slaf, Cole, Roy and Dach are all top 6er, we need to find 4-6 more forwards to fill the spots Newhook and maybe RHP and Beck are going to cover. I wouldn't take back just anyone but adding another young forward that will gel and grow with this group isn't a bad idea at all, waiting 5 years for the pick to maybe pan out is not all that exciting to me.

Depending on what is available on either end of course. Lets not close any windows here.

I mean, I like Catton too, but there's like 10 other players I want too. If they pass on Catton I won't be mad unless it's like... Dickinson I guess ? And even he himself is an outstanding prospect.

You need more than a decent top lines. You need guys able to score 40+ and do 80+ if you go down that route. I'd rather draft 4 kids in the next two drafts than hope for the best with Caufield, Suzuki and Slaf. Middle six players without size are not hard to find at all we can address that after 2025 without any issues.

 

[Mrb1p]

You need more than a decent top lines. You need guys able to score 40+ and do 80+ if you go down that route. I'd rather draft 4 kids in the next two drafts than hope for the best with Caufield, Suzuki and Slaf. Middle six players without size are not hard to find at all we can address that after 2025 without any issues.

Suzuki is already a top 20, at the very least, center. (Id say +5-10, but for the sake.)
Caufield is at the very least one of the best 2nd line winger in the league, Slaf is clearly on track to be a top 30 W.

That line is gonna be elite. Dach is gonna be a top 40ish C. Roy too. There's no problem there. There is top end in the offense. It's STL, Vegas good at the very least.

 

[Andrei79]

I think you're stretching the definition of special if you include Dickinson. Sure, he's good, but he's not special, there's at the very least a player like him in every draft, if not more. Last year there was Reinbacher, 2022 had Jiricek, Nemec and Mintyukov, 2021 had Sanderson and Guhle.

Interestingly, Sanderson is who I was thinking of here. He wasn't popular around these parts, but I really liked him. Still do. I don't have enough viewings on Dickinson yet though and I need more comparison points with the other defensemen.

The upside of Levshunov though... He's a bit lackadaisical at times, but those tools... and as a RHD too. With the right development environment he could be a beast. If they're in a position to draft him, I would entertain trading Mailloux.

In any case, the way things are going, this team will get a really good player, whichever position/player they decide to go with.

Suzuki is already a top 20, at the very least, center. (Id say +5-10, but for the sake.)
Caufield is at the very least one of the best 2nd line winger in the league, Slaf is clearly on track to be a top 30 W.

That line is gonna be elite. Dach is gonna be a top 40ish C. Roy too. There's no problem there. There is top end in the offense. It's STL, Vegas good at the very least.

I've been watching a lot of teams around the league lately and I have to agree here. Suzuki pretty much always compared favorably to most other centers. There are some like Mackinnon, McDavid, Barkov and Draisaitl who are just a level above the rest of the competition (I'm deliberately not putting Matthews there as he has things to work on outside of his goal scoring). But, Suzuki competes with most of the rest. Give him Quinn Hughes on the backend and add JT Miller on the PP and he's above ppg, pacing for 90-100 while providing high level defense.

 

[Mrb1p]

Interestingly, Sanderson is who I was thinking of here. He wasn't popular around these parts, but I really liked him. Still do. I don't have enough viewings on Dickinson yet though and I need more comparison points with the other defensemen.

The upside of Levshunov though... He's a bit lackadaisical at times, but those tools... and as a RHD too. With the right development environment he could be a beast. If they're in a position to draft him, I would entertain trading Mailloux.

In any case, the way things are going, this team will get a really good player, whichever position/player they decide to go with.



I've been watching a lot of teams around the league lately and I have to agree here. Suzuki pretty much always compared favorably to most other centers. There are some like Mackinnon, McDavid, Barkov and Draisaitl who are just a level above the rest of the competition (I'm deliberately not putting Matthews there as he has things to work on outside of his goal scoring). But, Suzuki competes with most of the rest. Give him Quinn Hughes on the backend and add JT Miller on the PP and he's above ppg, pacing for 90-100 while providing high level defense.

Yep. To me just lasts years Cole and a better defense at 5v5 and he very easily flirts with 90, if not more.

I am not concerned at all with the top line. The center line too if you ask me, pretty sure we can say its set now. Its a gamble on Dach, but Beck and Newhook offer good alternatives for the 3rd spot, at least.

Ive been the negative nancy for a while around here, but I find theres a lot of... self-depreciation by Habs fans lately. Its like we cant appreciate the good we have, but then again its been true for a long time, with Price, Pac and Subban too.

 

[HuGort]

Where would the prospect play if he made it and all those guys did too?

If you can get certainty, you should do it.

I would like them to draft with it too, I'm a draft junkie but if there's an opportunity to grab a Kent Johnson, you do it.

Isn't he kind of soft playmaking center? Why you give up our pick for him?

 

[Mrb1p]

Isn't he kind of soft playmaking center? Why you give up our pick for him?

If its Winnipeg you gotta do it.

 

[LaP]

If its Winnipeg you gotta do it.

Obviously but they wont trade Johnson for that Winnipeg pick they would be dumb to do that imo.

 

[Mrb1p]

Obviously but they wont trade Johnson for that Winnipeg pick they would be dumb to do that imo.

Yes. But i think that's what was being discussed.

I mean Newie was moved for a worse package and was a similar player, if were honest. Its not unheard of. Dach too.

 

[LaP]

Yep. To me just lasts years Cole and a better defense at 5v5 and he very easily flirts with 90, if not more.

I am not concerned at all with the top line. The center line too if you ask me, pretty sure we can say its set now. Its a gamble on Dach, but Beck and Newhook offer good alternatives for the 3rd spot, at least.

Ive been the negative nancy for a while around here, but I find theres a lot of... self-depreciation by Habs fans lately. Its like we cant appreciate the good we have, but then again its been true for a long time, with Price, Pac and Subban too.

I still firmly believe you need more than 3 Newhook on your 2nd line. Newhok is a bit like Lehkonen. If you ice him with Rantanen and BigMac he'll do the job for a fair price. But if you ask him to drive a 2nd line you can forget about it. I still think we need to add an extra driver to this lineup and you wont get that extra driver in a trade unless KH fleece another GM. I like Dach and he definitely has the potential to be that guy but there's definitely enough concern injury wise to not be 100% sure he will be that guy. I'm confident about our defense though.

 

[Mrb1p]

I still firmly believe you need more than 3 Newhook on your 2nd line. Newhok is a bit like Lehkonen. If you ice him with Rantanen and BigMac he'll do the job for a fair price. But if you ask him to drive a 2nd line you can forget about it. I still think we need to add an extra driver to this lineup and you wont get that extra driver in a trade unless KH fleece another GM. I like Dach and he definitely had the potential to be that guy but there's definitely enough concern injury wise to not be 100% sure he will be that guy.

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