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HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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Nicko999 said:
I would agree with you but even the trade you offer will not be enough to get the 1st overall. There is a big gap between Celebrini and the rest so 4th overall pick will not move the needle in that hypothetical trade. The 2 late 1st are not of big value as the chances of an NHLer decrease dramatically after the top 10/top 15.

Hutson would be nice asset but he has yet to turn pro. He's still a much bigger question mark than Celebrini will ever be.

Anderson has zero value.

So your offering a much lesser prospect (4th OA), 2 bottom 6 players (avg value of late 1st rounders), a question mark for Celebrini. No team holding the 1st overall will agree to that.

If you want the other team to consider, it starts with 4th OA + Suzuki for the 1st OA.
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Honestly, if we gave that all up including Hutson, I’d be pissed. I don’t want to trade that guy.

Anderson? Agree, he wouldn’t move the needle at all.
 
le_sean said:
I would say it all depends on who is available. For all we know, the top 4-5 forwards are gone by the time the Habs pick. Pick the BPA, and then you can try and complete a Romanov->Dach move again. I wouldn’t pigeonhole myself because I’m dead set on getting a forward.

When you draft for need, you end up getting guys like Kotkaniemi and Galchenyuk. When you draft the BPA, you get guys like Guhle and Sergachev.

I wouldn’t dismiss picking a defender. It would be met with an additional move for a more established player.

For instance, you can say we need a Catton more than a Dickinson, but I am 100% certain someone like Dickinson will always have far more value on the market than someone like Catton. If you want an example of Habs players that are more established, Guhle has a lot more value than Newhook despite them being fairly similar in age.
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Nothing wrong with the Chuck pick.

A lot wrong with how he was developed.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Which is a pretty subjective thing when you get passed a certain point in a draft.. in this draft, that subjectivity starts at 2.
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Agree.

Would you trade our picks say 7OV, assuming Demidov and Lindstrom are already picked, for Kent Johnson?

ginomini said:
Yes, this is why the whole BPA talk is extremely overblown in amateur scouting. There is no such thing as BPA really. Every year has a few (1 to 4) guys who really stand out, but after that, who knows?
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Its a subjective concept to disregard need.

hence is why i argue we may draft a D if its the subjective BPA at our spot.
 
Jaynki said:
Agree.

Would you trade our picks say 7OV, assuming Demidov and Lindstrom are already picked, for Kent Johnson?


Its a subjective concept to disregard need.

hence is why i argue we may draft a D if its the subjective BPA at our spot.
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No tf Johnson wouldnt even go top 10 in this draft, thats before seeing him develop very slowly.

Dach got a 14th in a much weaker draft and was always a better player.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Lots of great potential in this draft. Cartton could be awesome. Lidstrom, Demidov… all awesome. And of course, your fave: Eiserman. :)
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I have no problems with Eiserman.. he's got an elite tool, I just know why he is sliding down boards and he doesn't seem to be of the make up that the front office would be willing to take.

Now if Catton Lindstrom Demidov are all off the board, it'd be interesting to see if they prefer Eiserman to Helenius.
 
WeThreeKings said:
I have no problems with Eiserman.. he's got an elite tool, I just know why he is sliding down boards and he doesn't seem to be of the make up that the front office would be willing to take.

Now if Catton Lindstrom Demidov are all off the board, it'd be interesting to see if they prefer Eiserman to Helenius.
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There was serious debate at the start of the year as to whether Eiserman could pass Cellebrini for first.

I know Eiserman’s total game has been called into question. But nobody doubts his talent. MSL has shown the ability to have players reach their potential. If we got him at 6th or whatever, I would be ecstatic.

The biggest question I’d have would surround ‘coachability’. If he’s coachable then it’s an easy decision.

He’d easily be the most talented player we’d have drafted since Carey Price.
 
WeThreeKings said:
I have no problems with Eiserman.. he's got an elite tool, I just know why he is sliding down boards and he doesn't seem to be of the make up that the front office would be willing to take.

Now if Catton Lindstrom Demidov are all off the board, it'd be interesting to see if they prefer Eiserman to Helenius.
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I think they should. Can’t pass on elite traits. I like Helenius but he’s that type i’m not sure of because he’s not elite in anything in particular
 
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SOLR said:
3, I think Demidov is that good that he's in a tier of his own and Celebrini in a tier of his own as well better than Demidov.
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Sure we can all have our own opinions but its clear from Bob's list which is still the definitive ranking we have, the scouts don't share that opinion.

Maybe that changes by the end of the year, but I don't know.. the 6'7 unicorn defenseman in the KHL and the right shot defenseman tearing up the NCAA probably remains more attractive to NHL GMs.
 
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McGees said:
Won't be surprised if the top 3 picks all end up being forwards
1. Celebrini
2. Lindstrom
3. Demidov
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I would be shocked if Demidov goes top 3. In my opinion, he's probably going after top 5 as teams are going to like Silayev/Levshunov/Dickinson more.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Sure we can all have our own opinions but its clear from Bob's list which is still the definitive ranking we have, the scouts don't share that opinion.

Maybe that changes by the end of the year, but I don't know.. the 6'7 unicorn defenseman in the KHL and the right shot defenseman tearing up the NCAA probably remains more attractive to NHL GMs
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I don't disagree, but I think there are some years where every team picks their favourite after the first few players; this looks like one of those years. And that's not always showing on Bobby's list.
 
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