2024 NHL Draft Thread - Upd: Draft Lottery is May 7th

[crazyhawk]

I do have a question why everyone is off on Eiserman. Hes scoring at an insane pace again. Hes a goal a game guy. Not many people on the planet can say that.

Eiserman-Bedard-Nazar
Draisaitl-Moore-
Reichel-Greene-Kurashev

Korchinski-Yakemchuk/Parekh/Jiricek
Vlasic-Jones
Del Mastro-

Is it not because of his one dimensionality?
Also does he play with a relentless motor coupled with incredible skating cause these are of course high on KD's shopping list.
Personally I wouldn't bite on Eiserman ... maybe in a year or two once we have solidified our top six and D -corp through draft and FA.

 

[hawksfan50]

Everyone is off off on Eiserman because heis a 1 trick pony...elite goal scorer
.but lackingbin compete,puck transport,playmaker,,defending.. Just a shooter who scores...whije Value in that,BUT he does not realky help the team in other ways..

Somebody has to due tge heavy lifting to transport the puck to o-zone to get him the puck in a good shooting oisition..And someone has to help in defending to cover up for his poor defending efforts.

So...love hiscshotcandcabikity to beat goalies with it...but otherwise beliw average in other areas of the game.

 

[BHawk21]

Tunnel vision, poor off puck play, no growth D-1 to D0, bad shot selection.

Eiserman was picked by many ahead of Celebrini and Celebrini blew him out of the water this year. I think the more alarming thing was the no improvement, from last year to this as well as no real improvement during the year this year.

A lot of the guys who are moving ahead of him are continually improving.

This is just the nitpick portion of the top end of a draft. To score more goals than everyone else you have to shoot more than everyone else. Hes 20 some goals from being the greatest scorer in the history of the NTDP.

I understand the positional strengths that go into the draft and center and defenseman have that value but we are talking about a potential 50 goal scorer here. Pasta Ovechkin lite.

I guess I place a lot of emphasis on high level production and that it will translate.

 

[hawksfan50]

Just a reminder where we stand for the draft:

Hawks have:

RD. 1 = own pick

TB pick ^
* Top 10 protected .... ( think this means if not in top ten pre'-loto that IIF TB becomes a Lotto team and can move up 10 spots with a win ,if if they win they would likely keep the pick and delay the pick they owe is till a later draft which pick would not be top 10 protected)..

OR top 10 protected may mean if they finish out of top ten pre-lotto they must give tge puck to CHI this draft.

If somebody can definitely say if TB has a lotto pick which is11-16 ,,do they get to enter the Lotto before the draws or must they give that pick to CHI and let CHI have a shot at moving up ten spots from that draft slit if this wins in tge lotto draws.


RD 2...Hawks have 3 picks:

CHI (own pick)
L A. (From PHI who had this pick and traded it to CHI)
VAN

If the points finish ends as per currentvLeague standings I believe ourx2nd round woukd be:

#34,# 54and #60 or # 62, or 63 or #64 (the lsst 2 if Van getsxtp Cup Final or wins the SC).


Van leads the NHL atop League Standings ...if that is true at schedule finish but they lose in WC Final they would puck at #62...if they lose a playoff round not getting to WC final they may get #60 which goes to the highest league finish that does not get to a Conference Final.


Rd 3: Hawks have ,2 picks:

CHI (currently #66)
OTT(currently #68)


Rd 4= no picks
Rd 5=no picks

Rd 6 = CHI

Rd7=no picks

I am hoping KD gets another 2nd if they trade Mrazek at TDL ....Dickinson off the TDL trade table as they just extended him 2 years.
But maybe they trade him at TDL in 2025 .where he would be more than a rental going to ufa since he had 1more season under contract and Hawkscthen could eat half his cap cost...making him very attractive depth C at a cheap price for 2 Cuo runs by a contender goinig all in for 2025 and2926 Cuo runs?

 

[clydesdale line]

This is just the nitpick portion of the top end of a draft. To score more goals than everyone else you have to shoot more than everyone else. Hes 20 some goals from being the greatest scorer in the history of the NTDP.

I understand the positional strengths that go into the draft and center and defenseman have that value but we are talking about a potential 50 goal scorer here. Pasta Ovechkin lite.

I guess I place a lot of emphasis on high level production and that it will translate.

I've long said if he happens to fall to the Tampa Bay pick, you absolutely take him and run. But I am not picking him at 2 or 3. Now at 4? (assuming Lindstrom and Levshunov are gone) If I'm the Hawks I'll think about it. But even then I'm probably picking Catton and then there's Demidov and others in the mix.

 

[belfour30]

I've long said if he happens to fall to the Tampa Bay pick, you absolutely take him and run. But I am not picking him at 2 or 3. Now at 4? (assuming Lindstrom and Levshunov are gone) If I'm the Hawks I'll think about it. But even then I'm probably picking Catton and then there's Demidov and others in the mix.

I kinda think Lindstrom is gonna go 2nd.
Hawks might be able to get Levshunov at 4.

 

[WarriorofTime]

If he goes off at the U18s, which he probably will, everyone will be back on board and he'll likely jump back over all these WHL guys

 

[Putt Pirate]

reading the article from Powers sayin the Hawks think they have enough prospects and they need to develop.....meaning that taking on cap dumps seems seems not likely unless this is a tactic for overpayment. I guess I see us needing another draft or two to really get to a point of well stocked. I didn't know you could have 'too many' prospects.

 

[TLEH]

I think there are real question marks about Levshunov even though I have him at 3 on my list of Top 16-18 guys I've watched. His tools are elite but when you watch Michigan State play.. his bad tape jumps off the screen. Legit lost at times. We should have a watch party to watch him this weekend vs Nazar and Michigan.. I love the tools but need to see some development 2nd half here to continue to have him ranked that high.

 

[WarriorofTime]

reading the article from Powers sayin the Hawks think they have enough prospects and they need to develop.....meaning that taking on cap dumps seems seems not likely unless this is a tactic for overpayment. I guess I see us needing another draft or two to really get to a point of well stocked. I didn't know you could have 'too many' prospects.

they'll have made a lot of picks between 2022-24 and also need to keep Bedard happy. I think that 3 drafts of making lots of additional selections is fairly normal, it's not bad to be overstocked so the cream can rise, but it can get a bit log-jammed and lead to a very young roster and not enough places between NHL/AHL to store everyone if you had 5 straight years of making a lot of extra picks

 

[Drumman44]

I am hoping KD gets another 2nd if they trade Mrazek at TDL ....Dickinson off the TDL trade table as they just extended him 2 years.

I believe Ben Bishop was traded to LA in 2017 for either a 3rd or 4th round pick. Would be hard pressed to see Mrazek bringing back more than that. But hey, we can dream!

 

[giza]

If a playoff team's #1 is out, the Hawks could get a 2nd----too important a position to be relying on the backup if you have any aspirations, but I will say that the #2 has to be pretty inexperienced or just average at best.

 

[Kevin Musto]

reading the article from Powers sayin the Hawks think they have enough prospects

They don't have enough high end prospects though.

After they make their pick + the Tampa pick this year, I might be inclined to agree.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Bedard being there is huge, but I think one more bonafide top line level forward would go a long way. From there, you can grind out a couple more to get your 4 PP1 caliber forwards via FA/trades/deeper level draft picks. Just like how last go around you had Toews (high level draft pick), Kane (high level draft pick), Hossa (big free agent), Sharp (lucky trade, unexpected rise).

 

[hawksfan50]

I have already solidified my top ranking ;

1.Macklun Cekebrini C
2 .Cayden Lindatrom C
3.Zayne Parekh RD
4.Sam Dickinson LD

In terms of Hawks needs a top Center for the 2nd Line who is a 1st line talent weellCelebrini isctgat solution and the BOA of the entire draft.. Lindstrom is 2ndvoveralk because he iscanitger C solution for the non-Bedard line i the top six forwards .. solving thex1-2 puch up the middle issue...Nazar as good as he is, is small as is Bedard and I just do not think the Hawks would go 2 smallish top 2 centers ...Besides Nazar has not shown to be a special threat in goal scoring impact..But he can create and play-make ...so either at wing in top 6 or a 3C which makes 3rd klbn very much more and offebsive linev than just a bunch of checkers who cannot create much offense....

So I think IF Hawks draftcat #1or #2 we are taking Centers with more size than Bedardxand Nazar ...

If Hawjsxdraftcat #3or#4 we will swith tobactop dman..

I have Parekh at #3overalk and top dman orosoectvin this draftvclass because heviscso dynamic and effective offensively to take iverxand impact games by his dynamic brilliance.. The NHL hadn't had a dynamic dman likevthiscekute class level since Quinn HughesvorcMakar.

That Parekh isxaRD is also going to be so coveted especially the Hawkscarecthin therevin the pipeline with really onlyRinzel who is very good and is now a 2 way dman but not ever going to impact the game like Quinn Hughes or Makar do...Parekh has the skating,the deception,the shot ,the attack I.Q. ,the dynamism for highlight reel scoring ...Youbcannotvpassvup talent like this for impacting and injecting life intonation poor team offensectgatvtgecHawks currently are.

He IS the PP1 qb solution as well as shift by shift ES director of the offensivecattack threat...
He woukd be game changing for the Hawks...IF wexare using our 1st pick overall to take a dman...which we should OF we draftcat #3or#5 .

If we draftcatx#4and Patekh off the boatd then even though LD is not our biggest need,nevertheless Dickinson to me is BOA at #4.

HEimoactsxa gamecdifferentlyvthatcParelkh...A Big Physical ,great skating shutdown D who also
has more offensive potential than just a Big Ohysical Stay -at-Home defensive dman..There is a 2 way ability with more offense to cone next sesson as he will get more opportunity with Oliver Bonk likely in the NHL next season and Dickinson will be given more minutes and a pp1 qb role as well as counting on his defensive shutdown abilities in ES and in the Pk.
Think Viktor Headman as a comparable ...
The Hawks would d be solid on LD with Dickinson eventually 1LD and Vlasic 2LD ...and Edm 3LD ...but on RD...we still get no PP or even much ES help from $9.5 as titular 1RD ...when Rinzel gets afterx2 nire seasons he coukd be a 2Rd but not going to be Elite level impact like a Makar or Hughes ..but he may become 2 way good 2Rd
...but imagine if the RD side was:

S.Jones
Zayne Parekh
Sam Rinzel

Of course $9.5:still is a problem since he is not much of an elite goal scoring threat nor an ekite assists guy as a playmaker and certainly stinkscas Pp qb...And hevis not great enough in shutdown to even get close to a Zero in plus /minus...

So still going to have 4 seasons with him after Rinzel arrives in 26/27 season(he needs 2 more to develop in college.

So Oarekh makes a lot of sense to grabboff ifvwe draftcat #3and he is still there..

He has imorivedcgreatly defensively thisxsrason...Never hoibgbto beca shutdown D.. but he conpets..hasctgecskatibg,and can learn lije Keith to use his stick to compensate for average-sized 6'180 ..but probablycadds 10 lbs next season and should be Keith size ..whicjid fine ifvyou can skate. Ian notcwirriedxabout hom in thed-zone ..Itvtook QuinnHughesxacwhikecto be morevcomittedctobdefendingvbetter..Hevnkwvhas done that.

SO ibannotvconcerned ..Parekh will be fine..


However all of this is moot IF we draftcatc#1or#2...Weare going to take Celebrini at #1or Lindstrom if we draft at #2

IF we draft at #4 then KD must choose between tge best RD option remaining =Levshunov or Yakenchuk...I would take Yakemchuk over Levshunov in such a scenario.

With ourTB pick if they do not keep it (top 10 protected) I would draft BIG center Dean Ketourneau ..a unicorn player..great athlete...power sjatibg explosive stride ..great hands shot andc3 zone play ..to me hevis tge BPA regardless of position at that point in the draft = 15 to 22 range but he has legit top 5 talent +sizex+ sjating...the only reason hevis notbin the top 5 is that he only played in Prep School level hockey (St Andrews College) ...so the NHL teams never risk on that level in a top ten pick.

If the TB pick was as high as #11,I would still take Letourneau unless Yakemchuk sonehowxlasted that long .

 

[TLEH]

Good ole Macklun

 

[MicronMega]

Hoping for a lottery win and using 2023 NHL Mock Draft | NHL Projected Lines as a draft number guide:

CHI 1-Celebrini
TB 1 - Connelly
2nd - Basha
2nd - Mustard
2nd - Letourneau

Load up on forwards with speed and some size

 

[Castle8130]

Even with an impressive ending to his season, I'm not sure Eiserman will be able to push back into the top 5. I've watched 3 of his games and I can't honestly say he is much better than Teddy Stiga or Kamil Bednarik. James Hagens and Hensler are probably their best two players. Then you have guys like Humphreys, Plante, Ziemer, Van Vliet, and Austin Baker. I really hope the Hawks don't go after Eiserman

I'm sure with how much the Hawks love drafting local Americans, we will get one or two of these guys

 

[BHawk21]

Even with an impressive ending to his season, I'm not sure Eiserman will be able to push back into the top 5. I've watched 3 of his games and I can't honestly say he is much better than Teddy Stiga or Kamil Bednarik. James Hagens and Hensler are probably their best two players. Then you have guys like Humphreys, Plante, Ziemer, Van Vliet, and Austin Baker. I really hope the Hawks don't go after Eiserman

I'm sure with how much the Hawks love drafting local Americans, we will get one or two of these guys

I mean hes clearly better then everyone besides maybe Hagens who is going 1 next year and only 2 months younger then Eiserman.

Stiga is having a great season no doubt but hes about 5'9" and not an elite skater. Hes also playing with Hagens.

Bednarik is a great player I hope we can get him with one of our 2nds. Hes no Eiserman in terms of ceiling.

If the draft goes.

Eiserman
Parekh
Humphreys
Bednarik
Stiga/Plant

Id be very happy. They are all very talented. Size would be an issue tho.

 

[Castle8130]

I mean hes clearly better then everyone besides maybe Hagens who is going 1 next year and only 2 months younger then Eiserman.

Stiga is having a great season no doubt but hes about 5'9" and not an elite skater. Hes also playing with Hagens.

Bednarik is a great player I hope we can get him with one of our 2nds. Hes no Eiserman in terms of ceiling.

If the draft goes.

Eiserman
Parekh
Humphreys
Bednarik
Stiga/Plant

Id be very happy. They are all very talented. Size would be an issue tho.

Hagens is most definitely the better player right now. Hensler is 2025 eligible as well and is probably their best defenseman imo. I'd select Eiserman over Stiga and Bednarik, but I'm trying to point out that the difference isn't that big. Stiga looks bigger than 5'9". I thought he was 5'10"/5'11"ish. Still small, but he reminds me a lot of Joel Farabee. A player that surprised me a lot was Austin Baker. He is really smart and plays well everywhere. The u18 team is really tough to break apart because the difference between guys like Stiga and Bednarik to their fourth line players is not very significant.

Outside of Eiserman, there's a lot of players on that team that will get drafted in rounds 2-5

 

[MicronMega]

I mean hes clearly better then everyone besides maybe Hagens who is going 1 next year and only 2 months younger then Eiserman.

Stiga is having a great season no doubt but hes about 5'9" and not an elite skater. Hes also playing with Hagens.

Bednarik is a great player I hope we can get him with one of our 2nds. Hes no Eiserman in terms of ceiling.

If the draft goes.

Eiserman
Parekh
Humphreys
Bednarik
Stiga/Plant

Id be very happy. They are all very talented. Size would be an issue tho.

Parekh seems more like a Boqvist type pick. You just don't see those small D translate in the NHL playoffs. They can be good regular season players but when it gets rough and tough they tend to disappear.

Elite shot and play making ability but an avg to below avg skater and weak defensively

 

[hawksfan50]

Well youvare doodling Vancouver (Hughes) or Colorado (Makar) and theircekitecsmall D superstars to not being goidvin pkayoifs?

Hawksccannotcwingajesvib regular season and no dnan they have has proven any godcwith offensive ekitecsoeciaknproduction..

But ifvyou still do not think Praekh is special then ok take Yakemchuk or Levshunov..But Ivstill would take Parekh first among thse 3 top RD for this draft..

I just think he has the ability like Highesvand Makar to game change and take over with muki-point production and directing both transition attacks and in-o-zone puck control leadibgvtobscores.

 

[TLEH]

Monday we get Bobs list. Predictions?

 

[Drumman44]

Monday we get Bobs list. Predictions?

Eiserman at #8

 

[BHawk21]

Parekh seems more like a Boqvist type pick. You just don't see those small D translate in the NHL playoffs. They can be good regular season players but when it gets rough and tough they tend to disappear.

Elite shot and play making ability but an avg to below avg skater and weak defensively

I think hes the perfect partner for Vlasic. Rover offensive playmaking dynamic right handed D. Hes a puck possession monster.

Jiricek would be my other pick with Tampa 1st.