2024 NHL Draft Thread - Upd: Draft Lottery is May 7th

[Northernhawk]

I think the 2023 one was supposed to move to 2025, and the 2024 one to 2026. Since the 2023 pick conveyed to the Hawks, that's why Tampa was able to trade their 2025 pick to Nashville for Jeannot.

Oh okay…

 

[Darkstar]

Eiserman is a 1 trick pony=shooter goal scoreer..Tgerevis Valuev that BUT Hawks need a more well rounded player to drivexa line...not be a passenger without the puck and not bexa puck hog to only shoot first and not use his linemates.

I have rge draft considering Hawks needs vs.BOA left on the board regardless of position this way forca pick target list:

1.Macklin Celebrini (C) ...consensus#1by every rankibg service)..

2 .Cayden Lindstrom...Big 6'3 Center with great athleticism and skill...and projectionable upside to get even better with all these tools plus he is physical ..

Would make nice compliment to Bedard as the other top six Center ..
Some may prefer taking one ofvtgevoroze dmen ahead of him..but Big Centersxwith the abilities of Lindstrom hard to draftlater ifyou bypass them on your chance..so I put him ahead of draftibg a d-man despite 2 realkyvgood prizes you coukd get forvtge bkuekune.

3 Zayne Parekh(RD) ....tempting to put Sam Dickinson (LD) as the BDA (best dman available) ...but Hawks have greater need need for RD star .
Parekh has so far been just out of top ten Iin most rankings ...but I think Dobber has himat #3overall and Recutes com at #4 ...so #3on my target ranking is not out of tge question.

Parekh has been labeled as offenseman ....but that may also be a size bias since he only 6'0 181...so automatically that does not put him as high on some rankings as the bigger dmen targets like Dickinson 6'3;Levshunov 6'2 or Silayev at 6'8 or even Yakemchuk 6'3 (who might go 9-15 in a lot of asessments)..

But Parekh is tge most dynamic dmen..and maybe most dynamic player in this draft...superb skater.. elite on activations. Puck carrying is elite..on pace for 94 points including 28 goals pace (up from 21 as a D-1lsdt season)..Assistshave dramatically improved this season proving his passing ability too and his hockey sense. He is nota reckless too often leave tge d-zobe caught up ice type of dman..but ratger knows when to activate ..but when he goes itvis both thrilling to watch and very effective for driving the attack.. He can be the #1pp qb Hawks have been craving for...I justcthink hexwoukd make a tremendous impact for making the Hawks offense more dangerous and effective in attacking..Defensively he has vastly improved this season in processing and coverage decisions.. I do not think hexwillbexa defensive liability.. though he will need to defend with his stock and his brain as at his size he will lack the physicality of the big boy dmen tgat I mentioned above.
I think he is teachable ...Keith was never a big dnan and used his brain and his stock to be a defensive plus .but he never had Parekh's offensive abilities.
Parekh is 6'0 ...bigger by 2 inches over Quinn
Hughes ..

Think Quin Hughes or Cake Majar controlling games with their dynamism...Parekh can have the same effect for an offense ..

4.Sam Dickinson *LD(now you get a Big strong physical shutdown #1D projection with a great shot and improving offensive upside)...when Oliver Bonk left to play for Canada at the WJHC,Dickinson stepped up his offensive game for the London Knights playing more mitnutes and upping his scoring pace ...With Bonk back now on London's last 2 games; Dickinson has counted scoring goals and assists..It is easy to see why scouts are so high on him and his potential.. Hevisvon pace for 23 goals and 64vpoibts ...but it could go highervofvhis recent scoribg pace continues tgecremaibdercof the season.
He may indeed be a consensus top dman ranked above alk other dmen in thisxdraft ...butcas I said hevusxa KD and Oarekh is a RD.. Hawjs need a RD because so many of tgecHawjsxpupelibe dmen arexLD including Vkssic who is already tge bestcdefebsivecdman Hawjsxhave playing on the team currently.

I woukd botcrish eitgerxOarekh or Dickinson to thecNHK as 18 yrvokd dnen next sesson.. Ket them pmay anotgercyear of Juniircabd dominate even more next season there.
But big picture...Hawks must get rid of Murphy..who brings nothing offensively and us turning into a slow pylon now defebsiveky ...
Parekh could replace him at 2RD ($9.5 sadly is going be the1 RD many more seasons till his contract runs out ( BUT Oarekh coukd run Oo1 as RD on it when he getsxto the Show as I expect for the 25/26 season).

In a sense the issue is do you take Headman type (Dickinson( or Hughes/Makar type .Parekh)...

In this case Dickenson at LD woud be like adding a potential Headman.. Praekh at RD woujd be like adding Makar*also a RD) or a Quinn Hughes (if he played RDvibstead of KD(.

But I think kD would see the need for a top RD even if on his board he had Dickinson aheadvof Parekh for best overall dman.

5.IF Hawks drafted 5rh and all 4 I have above are off the board maybe KD continues the RD need with either Levshunov or Yakenchuk or tgey go for ,Eusernan or Catton at this point among tge forwards ..

Hard pass on Parekh, especially that high. I don't think he'll ever be even average defensively. I'd be happy with Catton, Lindstrom, Dickinson or Levshunov. Still hoping for Celebrini and Yakemchuk with our first two picks. Elick in the 2nd round would be nice.

 

[Castle8130]

Hard pass on Parekh, especially that high. I don't think he'll ever be even average defensively. I'd be happy with Catton, Lindstrom, Dickinson or Levshunov. Still hoping for Celebrini and Yakemchuk with our first two picks. Elick in the 2nd round would be nice.

Tij Iginla with our second pick would be sweet

 

[Darkstar]

Tij Iginla with our second pick would be sweet

I wouldn't have a problem with that. I also like Brandsegg-Nygard, Greentree, Hemming and Chernyshov.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Tij Iginla with our second pick would be sweet

Depending on where that pick is I like Tij a lot.

 

[TLEH]

I wouldn't have a problem with that. I also like Brandsegg-Nygard, Greentree, Hemming and Chernyshov.

Not as high on Nygard's upside. I mean if Buium is there at 10 due to his size or whatever. I love Buium.

I like Tij and Yakemchuk right now for that pick if its 10-12 range. Also love Basha but not sure we are in that range.. expect him to go 20s but he's a player.

 

[TLEH]

In other news.. my guy Berks at it again.





AT IT AGAIN.

 

[Malaka]

Jiricek out for season. Expect that the kid drops, wonder if the hawks could find him in the second?

 

[eklund2chicago]

Is there any chance Catton falls out of the top 10 and that we perhaps can take him with the Tampa pick? I really like his game but is it really someone you can jusitfy taking att 2nd or 3rd? Pick 2 to like 10 feels so open and unpredictable at this point.

Imagine if we would leave the draft with like Dickinson/Demidov/Lindstrom/Eiserman AND Catton.
Or even better, Celebrini AND Catton.

The future is bright

 

[HawksDub89]

Is there any chance Catton falls out of the top 10 and that we perhaps can take him with the Tampa pick? I really like his game but is it really someone you can jusitfy taking att 2nd or 3rd? Pick 2 to like 10 feels so open and unpredictable at this point.

Imagine if we would leave the draft with like Dickinson/Demidov/Lindstrom/Eiserman AND Catton.
Or even better, Celebrini AND Catton.

The future is bright

Zero chance he falls out of the top 10.

Better chance of him going 2/3

 

[kmwtrucks]

I think he goes behind all 3 big D and celebrini and lindstrom. I think his range is 6-12 right now. the problem with slight frame forwards at the D seems to be getting bigger. there is just no open ice. look the # of d going in the top 50 over 6-2 is probably 12-15. I think he is good but more of a Nazar level player.

 

[WarriorofTime]

There is absolutely a chance Catton is available after the 10th pick.

 

[TLEH]

He’s scored at a better rate than Benson, while being bigger than Benson, having worse line mates than Benson and skating much better. He’s got one of the better D0 in the WHL in the last 20 years.

I don’t think he falls out of the Top 10.. this draft stinks.

 

[clydesdale line]

Catton is for sure going top 10. But I highly doubt he's going top 3.

 

[kmwtrucks]

He’s scored at a better rate than Benson, while being bigger than Benson, having worse line mates than Benson and skating much better. He’s got one of the better D0 in the WHL in the last 20 years.

I don’t think he falls out of the Top 10.. this draft stinks.

I think the top 3-4 D are better then last year. last year top 5 is better but I think by the time you get 6-10 its very close.

 

[TLEH]

I think the top 3-4 D are better then last year. last year top 5 is better but I think by the time you get 6-10 its very close.

Guys like Ryan Leonard and Michkov blow this draft out of the water other than Celebrini.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Two of the three best USNDTP kids this year happen to be late birthdays not eligible until 2025. Hagens is better today than all these WHL high scoring kids, and really only second to Celebrini in the 06 year. Feels like a lot of the European guys keep getting hurt. The defensemen are miles better this year compared to last. No idea why the OHL can’t produce forwards anymore. I will reserve too much judgment until the Under-18 worlds.

 

[TLEH]

Two of the three best USNDTP kids this year happen to be late birthdays not eligible until 2025. Hagens is better today than all these WHL high scoring kids, and really only second to Celebrini in the 06 year. Feels like a lot of the European guys keep getting hurt. The defensemen are miles better this year compared to last. No idea why the OHL can’t produce forwards anymore. I will reserve too much judgment until the Under-18 worlds.

I mean maybe but what does that have to do with 24 WHLers in the 2024 draft

 

[hawksfan50]

A hatty for Zayne Parekh tonight +1a ...Elite game changer RD...IF Hawks do not draft 1st or 2nd ,he is my target for 3rd pickoverall..but if he does this sick level of scoring and beating goaliesxas a dman,I may change hi.to #2overall...forget the Big Center dram of Lindstrom(also a need
and just go with a game changer impact player like Parekh..
He may be the most dynamic player in th draft..

Coukl be better than Qunn Hughes or Cale Makar...

Any ranking org having this kid out of the top 5 is nuts...He is a very significant force in taking over a game with his elite talent..

Now 54 pts in 37GP 18 g 36a...

If he plays all pace he us on..68 games for Saginaw in the OHL regular season it projects to 33g 66a =99 points

 

[hawksfan50]

Wouldn't it be delicious IF TB is a bottom11-16 team heading into the lotto and it won onevofvtge 2 lotto draws moving up ten spot!

If they finished 10th worst or more worse than tgat ,tgey retain tgeirc2924 puck no doubt and Hawks get only their own first in this 2024 draft...BUT if from 11th -16 th worst finish then Hakjs get that TB pick (since they only had top ten protection) AND if this then wins a lotto draw moving up ten then Hawks would have 2 picks in top 6!!!

To be really lucky if Hawks move up to#1 with own lotto pick win and then #11 could only movev up 9 to #2...that would be optimum
outcome OR

IF the slot via TB wins the #1 from 11th pre-lotto and Hawks WOM TGE 2ND DRAW and retained the #2 overall from 2nd worst finish ,then thatctoo would be optimal result.

Chances of either happening very very very slim..butyou never cansay never with the lotto system.

It woukd just be delicious IF such a golden outcome ever occurred..

I THINK If TB pick moves from 11th to #1in first draw and Hawks end up with #2 after 2nd draw it is the effect that they moved back up 1 to #2 because the TB 11th which Hawkscown bumped tgevworst finisher (SanKose) and Hawks temporarily down 1 place each.. butvif Hawkswon2nd draw they move up to #2.

Dies this scenario mean Hawks lose ability to enter lotto draw for 2025 for a chance at #1 again(since thecTB pick won it) or does winning 2ndcdraw for #2 in2024also disqualify Hawks any chance in lotto for #1or#2 in 2025?

These limiting rules for not allowing 2 more tan 2 lotto wibs in 5 year period are unclear to me if scenarios lijevtjise above occurr...but does winning #2this year in a lotto way after winning#1in 2023 disqualify Hawks fron winning another lotto (for#1or#2) for5 more years? DOES WINNIG A LOTTO for the #1 or#2 with another team's pick traded to you also count in the limitation process or not?
It would seem it should not count...only a win with your own puck twice in5 years should count for the limitation rule of 3 wins i 5 yearsonly..

This if in 2025 the other first rounder Hawks own issonehow lotto pick and wins ,is it then not possible Hawks are allowed 3 lotto wins in 3 consecutive years?

A team would need super luck for all this to happen..but ...you mean there's a CHANCE?

 

[Section88]

No way catton makes it out of the top 10.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

Wouldn't it be delicious IF TB is a bottom11-16 team heading into the lotto and it won onevofvtge 2 lotto draws moving up ten spot!

If they finished 10th worst or more worse than tgat ,tgey retain tgeirc2924 puck no doubt and Hawks get only their own first in this 2024 draft...BUT if from 11th -16 th worst finish then Hakjs get that TB pick (since they only had top ten protection) AND if this then wins a lotto draw moving up ten then Hawks would have 2 picks in top 6!!!

To be really lucky if Hawks move up to#1 with own lotto pick win and then #11 could only movev up 9 to #2...that would be optimum
outcome OR

IF the slot via TB wins the #1 from 11th pre-lotto and Hawks WOM TGE 2ND DRAW and retained the #2 overall from 2nd worst finish ,then thatctoo would be optimal result.

Chances of either happening very very very slim..butyou never cansay never with the lotto system.

It woukd just be delicious IF such a golden outcome ever occurred..

I THINK If TB pick moves from 11th to #1in first draw and Hawks end up with #2 after 2nd draw it is the effect that they moved back up 1 to #2 because the TB 11th which Hawkscown bumped tgevworst finisher (SanKose) and Hawks temporarily down 1 place each.. butvif Hawkswon2nd draw they move up to #2.

Dies this scenario mean Hawks lose ability to enter lotto draw for 2025 for a chance at #1 again(since thecTB pick won it) or does winning 2ndcdraw for #2 in2024also disqualify Hawks any chance in lotto for #1or#2 in 2025?

These limiting rules for not allowing 2 more tan 2 lotto wibs in 5 year period are unclear to me if scenarios lijevtjise above occurr...but does winning #2this year in a lotto way after winning#1in 2023 disqualify Hawks fron winning another lotto (for#1or#2) for5 more years? DOES WINNIG A LOTTO for the #1 or#2 with another team's pick traded to you also count in the limitation process or not?
It would seem it should not count...only a win with your own puck twice in5 years should count for the limitation rule of 3 wins i 5 yearsonly..

This if in 2025 the other first rounder Hawks own issonehow lotto pick and wins ,is it then not possible Hawks are allowed 3 lotto wins in 3 consecutive years?

A team would need super luck for all this to happen..but ...you mean there's a CHANCE?

I'm not sure I followed this entirely but I think I can clarify a bit.

If Tampa finishes in the top 16 of the draft based on standings (the only teams eligible for the lotto), AND wins one of the lotteries for a top pick, Tampa keeps that pick. It is lottery conditional and Top 10 protected. The Hawks would receive an unprotected 2025 1st round pick.

As per the lottery rules, I believe you can't win a lottery draw with your OWN pick more than twice in a row. If it happens to be another team's pick, then you are fine. Additionally, if you are last place by the standings and the lottery selections don't alter your draft position, it is not considered a "win" of first overall, you just happen to maintain your draft position.

 

[ray c]

Craig’s List: Dominant defencemen set to take over 2024 NHL Draft | TSN

Boston University centre Macklin Celebrini is the crown jewel and favourite to go first overall in the 2024 NHL Draft but expect defence to dominate draft day.

www.tsn.ca

 

[WarriorofTime]

Just a bad game, but very unimpressed by Catton last night against Red Deer. The line was very passive as a whole and definitely needs to get stronger.

 

[Chuck Testa]

Catton seems like he could develop in to a player who can do a little bit of everything. I don't know if I take him in the top 3, per say, but definitely can't see him falling out of the top 10.

I still think that you gotta consider Eiserman if you don't end up picking 1st overall. He already has the goal scorers touch and you HOPEFULLY coach him up to develop his overall game. I hope to God that the Hawks strike gold in this draft and are able to draft an impact forward and an impact defenseman with their two 1sts.

Helenius seemed to have a very "meh" performance at the World Juniors tournament.