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right. Why was he even in that league to begin withWith Makar you also had the play style questions. He played like a forward
right. Why was he even in that league to begin withWith Makar you also had the play style questions. He played like a forward
Wanted to go to US college.right. Why was he even in that league to begin with
I'm more comfortable with the options at 18 than at 2 personally.if Chernyshov is still there (at 18), I'd be hard pressed to pass on him
Maybe you should post this on Twitter then?So I want to clarify the reason I'm posting here. There are guys on Twitter dumping on Levshunov and claiming it'd be the dumbest move for the hawks ever. So this post is for those guys :
Might as well draft Cole Eiserman 2OA thenSo I want to clarify the reason I'm posting here. There are guys on Twitter dumping on Levshunov and claiming it'd be the dumbest move for the hawks ever. So this post is for those guys :
First, no it wouldn't. Demidov is a great prospect and picking him is a great move, but Levshunov is not a bad pick. Especially when James Hagens is right at the top of the 2025 draft. Hagens and McKenna(2026 virtual lock 1st overall, also Bedards distant cousin) just lit the u18 worlds up. Taking a D this year and then taking the electric forward to pair with Bedard next year, seems like a pretty good idea from a long term perspective. I doubt the D group next year is as good and I think Hagens is gonna be better than Demidov.
Now, the main thing I want to say is a player like Levshunov is absolutely not "In every draft". Is he a guaranteed star? No, but nothing is guaranteed. I would say the odds are pretty good. I looked through the last few drafts and am going to list the top D selected out of the NCAA recently/played in the NCAA after the draft. I think it is a decent way to test just how many Levshunov's really are "in every draft" :
Noah Hanafin 23 points in 37 games 2015 5th overall
Zach Werenski 25 points in 35 games 2015 8th overall 2nd NCAA D in draft
Charlie McAvoy 25 points in 37 games 2016 14th overall
Cale Makar 21 points in 34 games 2017 4th overall. Started after draft
Quinn Hughes 29 points in 39 games 7th overall 2018
Cam York 16 points in 39 games 2019 14th overall. Started after the draft
Jake Sanderson 15 points in 22 games 2020 5th overall. Started after the draft
Owen Power 16 points in 26 games. 2021 1st overall.
Luke Hughes 39 points in 41 games. 2021 4th overall
Levshunov 35 points in 38 games
Buium 50 points in 42 games
First thing I would like to say is wow. This quite the list. A lot of great D there. If you only took the top D from or going to the NCAA, it seems like you'd have a pretty great success rate. Second, Levshunov has the 3rd best(2nd if you don't include Buium) production for a freshmen D since 2015. That's ignoring that he produced like this while playing for a team with so much less NHL affiliated talent than say a team like...UM, BC, BU, Denver. He is not a dime a dozen. Given most of the guys on this list are great in the NHL and Levshunov actually has better Freshman production than most of them, I think the likelihood of Levshunov being very good is pretty high. Plus he seems like fun dude.
Even if the Blackhawks have two more nightmare seasons in a row and finish dead last in each of them, you're talking about a 25% shot at each of them. It's 56% that they miss on both. Again, that is with two more years coming in dead last, which nobody wants (and which this year should prove may be harder to achieve than you might think). That's not a reason to pass on a forward who can be a star in this draft if that's how you see Demidov. If they like Levshunov better then so be it but that should be the sole consideration.Demidov is a great prospect and picking him is a great move, but Levshunov is not a bad pick. Especially when James Hagens is right at the top of the 2025 draft. Hagens and McKenna(2026 virtual lock 1st overall, also Bedards distant cousin) just lit the u18 worlds up. Taking a D this year and then taking the electric forward to pair with Bedard next year, seems like a pretty good idea from a long term perspective. I doubt the D group next year is as good and I think Hagens is gonna be better than Demidov.
The logic is impeccable.First, no it wouldn't. Demidov is a great prospect and picking him is a great move, but Levshunov is not a bad pick. Especially when James Hagens is right at the top of the 2025 draft. Hagens and McKenna(2026 virtual lock 1st overall, also Bedards distant cousin) just lit the u18 worlds up. Taking a D this year and then taking the electric forward to pair with Bedard next year, seems like a pretty good idea from a long term perspective. I doubt the D group next year is as good and I think Hagens is gonna be better than Demidov.
IIs he a guaranteed star? No, but nothing is guaranteed.
His logic isn’t bad. There are Demidov’s and Levshunov’s every year. There’s a better Demidov (Ryabkin) coming next year that is bigger and a center. There are like 6 other really great forwards most of them with great size. Theres one great defensemen (Hensler) defenseman.The logic is impeccable.
Hockey gods? That's your justification for drafting Levshunov? Make a case that he is the BPA instead of such nonsense.His logic isn’t bad. There are Demidov’s and Levshunov’s every year. There’s a better Demidov (Ryabkin) coming next year that is bigger and a center. There are like 6 other really great forwards most of them with great size. Theres one great defensemen (Hensler) defenseman.
It is legitimately like the hockey gods are trying to provide the Hawks with our needs in order. Bedard, Levshunov, Martone.
I’ve already made like 100 posts explaining why he’s BPA. The other guy hit the highlights.Hockey gods? That's your justification for drafting Levshunov? Make a case that he is the BPA instead of such nonsense.
Any GM that makes a pick in the current year based upon next years draft deserves to be whacked.
Edit: Thankfully we can put a fork in this in another week.
I just ********* said that.You draft the best player between Dem and Lev. You don't draft what you think is a worse player because of future drafts.
He would bring a much needed power forward element. No way they draft 3 Russians in a row, but Surin at 34 would be tempting if he’s availableif Chernyshov is still there (at 18), I'd be hard pressed to pass on him
He would bring a much needed power forward element. No way they draft 3 Russians in a row, but Surin at 34 would be tempting if he’s available
I keep telling myself "only 1 more week"
But somehow these stupid Demi vs Lev debates will continue to persist beyond that
Don't jinx yourselfBeing put into a coma for a week seems like a nice option. If only.
You gotta post these man, we’re desperate here.Apparently, there’s rumors on Twitter (X) that Davidson and the Russian scouts want Demidov and that the other scouts want Levshunov.
It's just made up shit. No legitimate source.You gotta post these man, we’re desperate here.
You gotta post these man, we’re desperate here.
Yeah, not exactly sure if there’s any validity to it. He is a legitimate hockey YouTube channel but not sure if he has actual sources or not.It's just made up shit. No legitimate source.
I think he's going in the 1st. I'm starting to like Colton Roberts at 50. He seems a little raw but he moves well for a guy his size.He would bring a much needed power forward element. No way they draft 3 Russians in a row, but Surin at 34 would be tempting if he’s available