2024 NHL Draft Thread Part 2 - Picks 2 & 18 in the 1st Round

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Yikes.

Compelling argument.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Yeah, much like the Taylor Hall move, but I think it will cost more than the nothing we gave up for Hall.

I don't think it will.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Compelling argument.

Sorry, I couldn't tell if you were serious as to why you would want to bring Laine in.

So you're saying you would be fine with bringing in Laine if he were to give us 37 games a season all while making 8.7 mil?

If not, please explain.

 

[ClydeLee]

I don't think it will.

Teams will want Laine and CBJ isn't in caphell, it's much different

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Sorry, I couldn't tell if you were serious as to why you would want to bring Laine in.

So you're saying you would be fine with bringing in Laine if he were to give us 37 games a season all while making 8.7 mil?

If not, please explain.

No you're betting on the forty goal guy playing sixty something games a year and giving Bedard an elite skill set to play with if it's cheap and all it costs is two years of cap dollars. His last year is the outlier. Didn't think it needed explaining.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Teams will want Laine and CBJ isn't in caphell, it's much different

Somebody could pay through the nose but I think he comes cheap because of the cap hit. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

 

[Wally1112pac]

No you're betting on the forty goal guy playing sixty something games a year and giving Bedard an elite skill set to play with if it's cheap and all it costs is two years of cap dollars. His last year is the outlier. Didn't think it needed explaining.

Ok.

Well my counter argument was that Laine can't stay healthy as proven by his games played record over his career. You'd be lucky to get 60 games out him per season over the next 2 years.

I guess we'll leave it at that.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Enough with the Laine talk jfc

 

[belfour30]

Remind all of us what the entire team did without Bedard?

Was it......dead last in scoring by a mile? To pin that failure on Kurashev is extremely disingenuous at best.

Fair. I just don't think that Kurashev has a bottom 6 game and he's not good enough for a top 6 spot. He goes and puts up 60 pts next year he might change my mind.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Fair. I just don't think that Kurashev has a bottom 6 game and he's not good enough for a top 6 spot. He goes and puts up 60 pts next year he might change my mind.

I totally agree , I'd love to see him dealt . He over achieved playing with Bedard .

 

[hawksrule]

Kurashev flashes but then disappears for incredibly long stretches. I don’t think he’s top six material, and find him very expendable.

 

[ello]

Anyone watching the Cup Final can see that the best dman on the ice is Forsling. 6ft. Left Shot. Not super fast. Insanely smart, very skilled and very disclipined with defensive posture

Bet on skill and IQ. Draft the best player available when you're picking at number 2 and sort out the size/handedness/positions afterwards.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Kurashev is a guy but barely. He can play on the fourth line, the first line, the PP and the PK and in every role he's just alright. There's value in that but not much.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Anyone watching the Cup Final can see that the best dman on the ice is Forsling. 6ft. Left Shot. Not super fast. Insanely smart, very skilled and very disclipined with defensive posture

Bet on skill and IQ. Draft the best player available when you're picking at number 2 and sort out the size/handedness/positions afterwards.

Buium.

 

[TLEH]

1) Really feels like Levshunov is going to be the pick. Won't love it but looks like I'll watch even more Big10 next year.
2) MBN is just another Moore type pick. I just don't see real high end upside.

 

[Wally1112pac]

1) Really feels like Levshunov is going to be the pick. Won't love it but looks like I'll watch even more Big10 next year.
2) MBN is just another Moore type pick. I just don't see real high end upside.

MBN would make sense if Levshunov is picked at 2. There won't be a lot of high skilled forwards available at 18 unless someone really falls. MBN could be a middle 6, at least a top 9. Maybe Michael Hage at 18 as well if they pick Levshunov.

 

[Larmer83]

1) Really feels like Levshunov is going to be the pick. Won't love it but looks like I'll watch even more Big10 next year.

Between Greene, Levshunov, Moore, and Rinzel it could be a crowded Hawks roster come April of 2025.

 

[bwanajamba]

I will be disappointed if it isn't Demidov, but at 3 or 4 I'd have been thrilled with Levshunov so I'm not gonna get too down about it.

If they take Levshunov and can move up again in the range to grab a forward in the Catton/Iginla/Sennecke tier that's a great draft imo.

 

[TLEH]

MBN would make sense if Levshunov is picked at 2. There won't be a lot of high skilled forwards available at 18 unless someone really falls. MBN could be a middle 6, at least a top 9. Maybe Michael Hage at 18 as well if they pick Levshunov.

Middle 6/Top 9 projection is just meh at this point. We need to actually swing on guys like Hage if he is there. Guys with elite tools that need some things to go right. Maybe they take longer, but guys with real 70-80 point NHL upside

 

[clydesdale line]

I would be shocked if Detroit doesn't pick Brandsegg-Nygard. He just screams Yzerman type of player. I would like him alot though. He's the type of player you win cups with.

 

[TLEH]

I would be shocked if Detroit doesn't pick Brandsegg-Nygard. He just screams Yzerman type of player. I would like him alot though. He's the type of player you win cups with.

I agree. I mean I like him.. just like a 50 point upside guy for me.

 

[Kevin Musto]

SILAYEV

 

[x Tame Impala]

So what are the Hawks not seeing in Demidov to not want him at 2?

 

[HawksDub89]

I would be shocked if Detroit doesn't pick Brandsegg-Nygard. He just screams Yzerman type of player. I would like him alot though. He's the type of player you win cups with.

Bingo

He may not have the 80-90 point ceiling, but I do think he can be a 60ish point two way dominant forward. Like you said, you win cups with those type of players.

I am admittedly higher of his offensive ceiling than most.

I’d be thrilled with Hage at 18 too.

So what are the Hawks not seeing in Demidov to not want him at 2?

Literally not seeing him. Like no in person viewings, which is significant.

He’s also playing in a watered down MHL.

I like him a lot (more than Levshunov) but too many people are acting as if he doesn’t carry significant risk. He’s not a sure thing, just like most of these guys not named Celebrini.

 

[ClydeLee]

I'm not gaga for Demidov like some here because he doesn't seem too quick, and it's hard to judge because in any prospect highlights, I've never seen defensemen as bad as the ones he's making plays against.

He seems very perimeter in plays too. Things I loved about Michkov peope want to compare, is that Michkov made plays around the net all the time. That is what impressed me with him