Ya that where I’m at as well, Dick played on a good team, Yak a bad one,
Could also be the other way around. I think they are much closer than that in talent level, Dickinson played for the powerhouse London Knights while Yakemchuk played for the offensively challenged Calgary Hitman, that makes a big difference.
You must really get off on being condescending all the time,
A consensus list is not the teams list though. Maybe we have Catton 5th, or maybe we have him 20th. Early in the draft, the gaps from one spot to the next tend to be bigger, teams often have strong preferences.
The point is that the difference may be negligible to you but even one spot or two or three at that point of the draft can lead to a significantly different quality of player.
If we drafted for need in 2020, maybe we don't have Sanderson and instead have Drysdale or Rossi.
You can argue the reverse as well, 7 could be a bum , 10 an all star. We’ve seen several examples of both over the years.
On whose list?
Yes agreed but that wasn’t my point. If you make the wrong pick because you misread the player that’s the draft, it happens. If you did it because you wanted a RD even though you suspected the other player was better then that’s just self-inflicted harm because of stupidity.
Sure, or you believed the RD was the better player, and chose the RD.
I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying I think these two players are close enough in talent level that they should consider need. It reminds me of the Dobson versus Bouchard discussion, Dobson is much better defensively & while Bouchard is slightly better offensively & depending on the team in a situation where the talent level between the two are close enough ... then why not go for need.
I don’t think we are having the same conversation. If they think Yakemchuk is the BPA, take him. I was just talking about picking players based on position and why it’s a bad idea.
That's not what I'm saying at all. IMO the two players in question are close enough in talent that it's a flip of the coin & given one is a RD a position of weakness in the Sens org I would take the RD. If one player was clearly better than the other I would take the better player regardless of left or right but IMO they are much closer in talent level than how they are ranked.
My opinion is watching him live and then watching him throughout the year, it’s not an opinion pulled out of thin air, and it’s not exactly one that goes against the grain. I’d say the same about your opinion of Yak, but I’m not going to ask you to change what you see or project, that’s your evaluation.
If the team sees them as a coin flip then fine, rather than flip a coin, go by position, but it's highly unlikely that the teams seems the guys available by their pick as a coin flip, teams very often have strong opinions on prospects and the difference in one teams opinion vs another is more likely to be differences in what they value from a prospect than an indication of the players being viewed as nearly identical talents
Except with this draft it's anybodies guess as to how the order will go, it's that close with half a dozen players maybe more, McKenzie said as much. Nobody is sure how it will go after Celebrini. They have a pretty good idea who the top 15 should be but the order is a different story. I'm sure you have seen some sites like I have that have Dickisnon outisde the top 10, in fact a few of these guys.
Looks like it's heading towards an OHL showdown.
There's a difference between people/teams having different orders for their ranks and people/teams having players ranked similarly. You mention Dobson and Bouchard, I thought Dobson was a sure fire stud, while I had serious questions about whether Bouchard could translate his offense in the pro game outside of perhaps the pp with his just ok skating, and didn't like his defensive play. They weren't in the same tier for me.Except with this draft it's anybodies guess as to how the order will go, it's that close with half a dozen players maybe more, McKenzie said as much. Nobody is sure how it will go after Celebrini. They have a pretty good idea who the top 15 should be but the order is a different story. I'm sure you have seen some sites like I have that have Dickisnon outisde the top 10, in fact a few of these guys.
Most here would have taken Dobson over Bouchard in their draft yr as Dobson looked to be more of a complete player & much better defensively & he's turned out that way. I argued that I thought Bouchard was better offensively & at the end of this past season he had 12 more pts than Dobson. And Bouchard just did what no other NHL defenceman has ever done in NHL history, he is the first blueliner in the 100-plus years of the league's existence to record 20 or more points in the first two rounds of the playoffs. You could argue that is because Edmonton is a better team than the NYI & I would agree, same for the London Knights being an offensive powerhouse while the Calgary Hitman were not even close. It would be funny if they took Catton though.
Looks like it's heading towards an OHL showdown.
Wow...
