NHL Entry Draft 2024 NHL Draft Talk

[OgieO]

What actually happened to Cowen after Ottawa? He doesn't play anywhere it seems (quick look at HockeyDB). Maybe I'm crazy but I think he would have been a decent D had it not been for the injury. I thought he looked pretty good in his rookie year.

 

[KnockHobbler]

What actually happened to Cowen after Ottawa? He doesn't play anywhere it seems (quick look at HockeyDB). Maybe I'm crazy but I think he would have been a decent D had it not been for the injury. I thought he looked pretty good in his rookie year.

I think he was told by the Leafs that they weren’t going to actually use him and then in the offseason he tried to land a job somewhere in the nhl but retired after it was clear it wouldn’t happen

 

[Micklebot]

What actually happened to Cowen after Ottawa? He doesn't play anywhere it seems (quick look at HockeyDB). Maybe I'm crazy but I think he would have been a decent D had it not been for the injury. I thought he looked pretty good in his rookie year.

He lost a step after hurting his hip in Belleville and imo was never the same. I don't think he'd have ever panned out as the stud top 4 Dman we hoped for as his decision making was always going to be a step behind, but with his tools he easily should have been able to carve out a bottom 4 role.

 

[ijif]

A player that interests me is Lucas Pettersson. He skates well, has good hands, good passer, has solid point production, and he puts effort into the defensive end. He is a little small, though.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Would use our plethora of 4ths to hammer out some guys in the USHl.

Kleber is the guy who is likely gone, but assuming he’s there grab him. Very likely to carve out a role at the pro level.

Burnevik has impressed me with his progression this season, huge frame, can skate. Would be happy to bet on him with a 4th. Use our overaged pick similar to the way we did with Batherson.

Veilleux is a guy I’ve liked for a long time, he has been a stand out, stand out defender in midget the past 2 years, with lots of pro potential. Would have been much higher than a late first in the Q if he never told all the teams he wasn’t reporting. Smartest guy on the ice, always making the right decisions. He’s not going to wow anyone with flashy plays, but is extremely cerebral and dependable. Feel like whoever gets him will be getting a steal down the road.

Kleber sounds interesting. This article says he has drawn similarities to Moritz Seider. What similarities and differences do you see between the two?

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Tank for Celebrini/Levshunov. Hope Brandsegg-Nygård falls to us with Boston's pick.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

 

[robsenz]

Can't believe we're hoping for another lottery pick right now, what a ridicolously dumb team

 

[bert]

What actually happened to Cowen after Ottawa? He doesn't play anywhere it seems (quick look at HockeyDB). Maybe I'm crazy but I think he would have been a decent D had it not been for the injury. I thought he looked pretty good in his rookie year.

No hockey sense injury or not. He lacked basic intelligence in general.

 

[BondraTime]

Obviously we'd all love to be winning our way to a playoff run, but these losses are extremely beneficial for the Sens.

There is absolutely 4 high, high level prospect, and then another 3/4+ top 10 guys well worth the draft slot.

All 3 Russians should be in our top 4, no clue how KHL factor and guys playing in Russia will play out, but passing on any of those 2 will be disheartening. They are all very, very strong prospects.

Any of Buium, Dickenson, Yakemchuk, Parekh would be great guys to add after the top group of guys on D (in order of my personal preference, that one will be different among pretty much everyone) and Lindstom, Catton, Helenius and Iginla are all guys I'd be happy walking away with.

Pretty much have my own personal preference list a 3 tier grouping, Celebrini, Russians, and then the larger group of D and F

 

[Dan Patrick]

Obviously we'd all love to be winning our way to a playoff run, but these losses are extremely beneficial for the Sens.

There is absolutely 4 high, high level prospect, and then another 3/4+ top 10 guys well worth the draft slot.

All 3 Russians should be in our top 4, no clue how KHL factor and guys playing in Russia will play out, but passing on any of those 2 will be disheartening. They are all very, very strong prospects.

Any of Buium, Dickenson, Yakemchuk, Parekh would be great guys to add after the top group of guys on D (in order of my personal preference, that one will be different among pretty much everyone) and Lindstom, Catton, Helenius and Iginla are all guys I'd be happy walking away with.

Pretty much have my own personal preference list a 3 tier grouping, Celebrini, Russians, and then the larger group of D and F

Do you count Levshunov in with the Russians? Just FYI he is Belarusian I believe. How would you rank them? I think the fact that Levy isn’t stuck in Russia gives him the slight edge but I also love Demidov.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Obviously we'd all love to be winning our way to a playoff run, but these losses are extremely beneficial for the Sens.

There is absolutely 4 high, high level prospect, and then another 3/4+ top 10 guys well worth the draft slot.

All 3 Russians should be in our top 4, no clue how KHL factor and guys playing in Russia will play out, but passing on any of those 2 will be disheartening. They are all very, very strong prospects.

Any of Buium, Dickenson, Yakemchuk, Parekh would be great guys to add after the top group of guys on D (in order of my personal preference, that one will be different among pretty much everyone) and Lindstom, Catton, Helenius and Iginla are all guys I'd be happy walking away with.

Pretty much have my own personal preference list a 3 tier grouping, Celebrini, Russians, and then the larger group of D and F

Outside of winning 1st place lottery, I'd be extremely happy if we get both Levshunov (Sandy-Lev future top pairing OMG) and Brandsegg-Nygård (On one hand, Norwegian bias, BUT he's also moulding up to be a modern power forward which would be awesome for us).

Do you count Levshunov in with the Russians? Just FYI he is Belarusian I believe. How would you rank them? I think the fact that Levy isn’t stuck in Russia gives him the slight edge but I also love Demidov.

If Demidov and Lev are both available by our pick, I'd go for BPA in Demidov. But if Lev is available over the other Russians, pick Lev. He has all the possibilities of becoming a future 1 RHD. Sandy-Lev would be a dream top pairing.

 

[Senscore]

This is the player I will be heartbroken watching another team draft.

 

[dumbdick]

So where does that 2nd tier of players after Celibirini drop off?

I'm on the tank train but haven't researched this year's crop much yet. Is dropping/rising a few spaces a big deal, based on where we're currently seated?

 

[Hale The Villain]

So where does that 2nd tier of players after Celibirini drop off?

I'm on the tank train but haven't researched this year's crop much yet. Is dropping/rising a few spaces a big deal, based on where we're currently seated?

I suspect the consensus would probably be a drop off after Silayev, Lindstrom, Demidov, Dickinson, Catton and Levshunov, but there is likely to be another tier within those players.

Some would have Eiserman in that group as well, but he looks like a faller. I suspect Iginla will continue to rise and join that group as a consensus top 8 guy.

 

[Wondercarrot]

No hockey sense injury or not. He lacked basic intelligence in general.

He had a brief spell where he looked amazing, and then never again.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I suspect the consensus would probably be a drop off after Silayev, Lindstrom, Demidov, Dickinson, Catton and Levshunov, but there is likely to be another tier within those players.

Some would have Eiserman in that group as well, but he looks like a faller. I suspect Iginla will continue to rise and join that group as a consensus top 8 guy.

I agree with your group.. I expect the D to remain high in Bob Macs final ranking in this draft. I think Silayev and Demidov stay in the top 5. 2 more in the top 5 likely includes Levshunov RD based on current rankings and a toss up between Lindstrom and Dickinson. Catton and Iginla have both risen.. as has Buium. Going to be interesting. Don't sleep on Dickinson pushing up a little further. I would put him and Silayev ahead of the D field personally although Levshunov has more fan fare as of now.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Obviously we'd all love to be winning our way to a playoff run, but these losses are extremely beneficial for the Sens.

There is absolutely 4 high, high level prospect, and then another 3/4+ top 10 guys well worth the draft slot.

All 3 Russians should be in our top 4, no clue how KHL factor and guys playing in Russia will play out, but passing on any of those 2 will be disheartening. They are all very, very strong prospects.

Any of Buium, Dickenson, Yakemchuk, Parekh would be great guys to add after the top group of guys on D (in order of my personal preference, that one will be different among pretty much everyone) and Lindstom, Catton, Helenius and Iginla are all guys I'd be happy walking away with.

Pretty much have my own personal preference list a 3 tier grouping, Celebrini, Russians, and then the larger group of D and F

I’ve put the season behind me and all in on the draft, we’re going to get a pretty sweet player.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I keep flip-flopping between wanting an RD and wanting a centre. The fact that Norris has such huge injury issues, plus the fact he may not be more than a 50-60 point guy is making me lean towards the latter.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I keep flip-flopping between wanting an RD and wanting a centre. The fact that Norris has such huge injury issues, plus the fact he may not be more than a 50-60 point guy is making me lean towards the latter.

I also want thise things but I’m being swept off my feet by LD Zeev Buium.
If he was a RD would everyone/anyone take him before Silayev/Dickenson/Leshunov?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I keep flip-flopping between wanting an RD and wanting a centre. The fact that Norris has such huge injury issues, plus the fact he may not be more than a 50-60 point guy is making me lean towards the latter.

Maybe you pick for need in the late 1st, but not that high up in the draft.

What actually happened to Cowen after Ottawa? He doesn't play anywhere it seems (quick look at HockeyDB). Maybe I'm crazy but I think he would have been a decent D had it not been for the injury. I thought he looked pretty good in his rookie year.

If he never had his injuries and/or if he had more humility he could have been a Gudas type, I'm sure. His IQ was a major weakness but his physical package was so impressive.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I keep flip-flopping between wanting an RD and wanting a centre. The fact that Norris has such huge injury issues, plus the fact he may not be more than a 50-60 point guy is making me lean towards the latter.

Make your list of who you want ahead of who based on your evaluations and any other factors you want to include and draft accordingly.

My own perspective and not trying to sell it to anyone is you do not base your draft on immediate team needs. You base it in how the you compare and rank the players.. Immediate team needs should not count on the draft to fill them immediately look at DY+2 .. some will be ready sooner some later and deal with your roster accordingly as they are ready. Just for the sake of argument lets look 2 years from now. I don't think its bad to ever draft a C or a D either hand if you have them ranked where you are picking. Sens have an obvious need at RD. I hope by the time we are ready to play next year that need will have been filled to a large degree. We have a surplus of LD on the roster and one knocking on the door ..again by the time we are ready to go next year I expect that to be mostly solved. As time moves on other changes will be needed. This is a defense heavy draft at the top that may change where you select one on your list. IMO NHL teams will be eyeing the D in this draft at the top but that all goes into your list and how you prioritize your ranking.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Surin Sure In Good Company

 

[LiseL]

I guess the big question is, how deep is the draft? Where is the consensus drop off points?

I believe Craig Button on TSN says it drops off at 23.