2024 NHL Draft Picks 14, 42, 43, 76, 108, 109, 161, 172, 204 (Draft on 6/28 and 6/29)

[Fjordy]

Well obviously KA is open to trading #11, but I agree with @Jim Bob , it's not that easy to find the right deal.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

The 10th and 11th picks are out there in trade talks. The question is will there be any deals that work out for both sides and we see the picks move.

There tend to be more talks than deals over the years.

agreed, and do we want to trade that pick for a Risto level player (14th) or package for a better player (O'Reilly) for ie

but overall it's time for KA to try and make a big boy deal if it makes sense

I wonder if they in on the Necas chatter ? Although the price seems high even for the Canucks who seemed the favorite there.

 

[Matt Ress]

Teams are picky about who is on the board. Could be a draft day trade but we know how often that happens

 

[Chainshot]

Chris Peters with a vlog about his and Flohockey's draft rankings:

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798355686415577504

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‘If I were GM’: Pronman, Wheeler, and Bultman pick the first round of the 2024 NHL Draft

On a loaded Prospects Series episode of The Athletic Hockey Show, Max, Corey, Scott, and FloHockey’s Chris Peters break down Corey’s latest 2024 NHL Draft ranking, Chris audits Corey, Max, and Scott’s “If I were a GM” mock draft results, and the guys close things out with thoughts on the Memorial Cup so far.

This was a good, and at times feisty, conversation.

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798352382524596607

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798317433377411411

 

[SundherDome]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798317433377411411

I know I shouldn't but I realllllly want to

 

[Diaspora]

agreed, and do we want to trade that pick for a Risto level player (14th) or package for a better player (O'Reilly) for ie

Nobody trades 14OA for a Risto-level player. Fletcher traded that pick for what he imagined Risto would become. Instead, he got Risto.

It cost Fletcher his job, and that kind of misjudgment would get Adams fired, too.

 

[Samsonite23]

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This was a good, and at times feisty, conversation.

The defense for taking Eiserman was poor compared to all of the other examples. The main starting point was that the other guys in the area left to pick were the same.

Saying we’ve drafted sub 6 foot guys in recent years and Iginla, Eiserman, Helenius are all about the same size…except only one of them is a center…oh yeah, and Sennecke is still there. Dumb argument.

 

[Faceboner]

The defense for taking Eiserman was poor compared to all of the other examples. The main starting point was that the other guys in the area left to pick were the same.

Saying we’ve drafted sub 6 foot guys in recent years and Iginla, Eiserman, Helenius are all about the same size…except only one of them is a center…oh yeah, and Sennecke is still there. Dumb argument.

Mbn isn't a bad pick at 11 either and I'm warming up to parekh mbn provides a good power game with a 200 ft game that's good and a great shot he would be a player that the pipeline lacks with a legit top 6 potential he is 6'1 and good weight not the tallest but he is a hard nose player

 

[HOOats]

let alone getting by Calgary

I think fan opinion has jumped the shark as far as assuming the Flames will select Iginla if he's there.

The family connection could certainly be a tiebreaker if they have him and a couple other kids with the same grade, but if they have Catton, Sennecke, Helenius, or any of the D graded higher, I seriously doubt they'll override their scouting in favor of the Hollywood script that fans want. Sure, Conroy could just be playing coy, but he seems like a serious hockey exec who won't play favorites.

Should the Calgary Flames draft Tij Iginla? Inside the decision process

The Athletic spoke to Tod Button and NHL scouts about the possibility of the Flames taking Tij Iginla at next month's NHL Draft.

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“What we’ve always said is we just have to put everybody in the right order, put them where they belong,” Conroy said during an interview on Hockey Night in Canada’s After Hours in April. “And then when we start the draft, we’ll go down the list. And when we pick, whoever’s on the list we’ll take the best player.”

Around the league, there are NHL teams convinced that Calgary both will and won’t take him if he’s available.

Jarome Iginla discusses his draft-eligible son, plus a possible goalie swap and more: Duhatschek notebook

What does Iginla think of the idea of his son playing for the Flames, one of his former teams?

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Naturally, it raises the question: Would it be a good thing for Tij Iginla to play in Calgary, where his father cast a long shadow and now works for the team? Complicating matters further is that Jarome Iginla’s best friend in hockey is Craig Conroy, the Flames’ general manager, who will have the final say over who the Flames pick at No. 9. Julian McKenzie and Corey Pronman of The Athletic pondered the pros and cons of that decision.

Social media tends to be divisive but, on this question, there seems to be as much of a consensus as there can be. If he’s available, Calgary fans want to see the son of Jarome in the Flames organization.

“That’s cool,” said Jarome. “That’s a nice compliment. People ask me that question all the time. I got asked that (last Saturday) by Bryce Salvador. His son was at the Oil Kings camp, too (along with Iginla’s other son, Joe). They came in from New Jersey. He was asking about Tij and Calgary and I said, ‘I don’t know.’ Because there are so many pros and cons to that – and teams have different positional needs. So, I just stay out of it. It’ll work out.”

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I think fan opinion has jumped the shark as far as assuming the Flames will select Iginla if he's there.

The family connection could certainly be a tiebreaker if they have him and a couple other kids with the same grade, but if they have Catton, Sennecke, Helenius, or any of the D graded higher, I seriously doubt they'll override their scouting in favor of the Hollywood script that fans want. Sure, Conroy could just be playing coy, but he seems like a serious hockey exec who won't play favorites.

Should the Calgary Flames draft Tij Iginla? Inside the decision process

The Athletic spoke to Tod Button and NHL scouts about the possibility of the Flames taking Tij Iginla at next month's NHL Draft.

www.nytimes.com

Jarome Iginla discusses his draft-eligible son, plus a possible goalie swap and more: Duhatschek notebook

What does Iginla think of the idea of his son playing for the Flames, one of his former teams?

www.nytimes.com

I hope Calgary passes and he falls to the Sabres. I’ve been on the Iginla train since he was projected as a 3rd rounder.

 

[Jacob582]

Sharks Dir. of AS:
28:10

"In amateur scouting you have to have an eye on where you are. Have an eye on where you want to go. But you have to pay attention not to keep getting what you already have.

If you continue to draft the same type of player every year, you are kind of dismissing that asset. "

 

[rams]

"you have to pay attention not to keep getting what you already have."

Scouting 101. Sabres failed it for years.

 

[Fjordy]

Sharks Dir. of AS:
28:10

"In amateur scouting you have to have an eye on where you are. Have an eye on where you want to go. But you have to pay attention not to keep getting what you already have.

If you continue to draft the same type of player every year, you are kind of dismissing that asset. "

KA:

 

[Ace]

I wonder if people actually think that say...Kulich and Benson do the same thing. They're thrown in a pile of "not tall" as if that describes what they bring to the table. Usually by the same people who would gladly use every pick on someone from a pile of "very tall". Almost none of which are actually as hard to play against as Benson.

 

[Fjordy]

I wonder if people actually think that say...Kulich and Benson do the same thing. They're thrown in a pile of "not tall" as if that describes what they bring to the table. Usually by the same people who would gladly use every pick on someone from a pile of "very tall". Almost none of which are actually as hard to play against as Benson.

Well, you take BPA and first of all look at talent. But I think KA could have done better in the drafts, although he did well.

 

[Reddawg]

Well, you take BPA and first of all look at talent. But I think KA could have done better in the drafts, although he did well.

The primary time he didn't do that was the Leinonen pick in 2022 #41OA. We would all be singing his praises with regard to the draft if he had actually gone BPA rather than BGA and drafted Lane Hutson with that pick. It really wasn't necessary to reach up for a goalie like that and it bit us pretty good. Hutson is an exceptional blueline weapon and that was known at the time.

 

[Gras]

The primary time he didn't do that was the Leinonen pick in 2022 #41OA. We would all be singing his praises with regard to the draft if he had actually gone BPA rather than BGA and drafted Lane Hutson with that pick. It really wasn't necessary to reach up for a goalie like that and it bit us pretty good. Hutson is an exceptional blueline weapon and that was known at the time.

They said they had Leinonen as a 1st round grade so as far as their list went he could have been their BPA and they had considered drafting him with their 3rd 1st round pick instead if waiting for the 2nd round.

 

[Reddawg]

They said they had Leinonen as a 1st round grade so as far as their list went he could have been their BPA and they had considered drafting him with their 3rd 1st round pick instead if waiting for the 2nd round.

I don't doubt that they had a 1st round grade on him, but I highly doubt they ever even briefly considered using the Kulich pick on him on draft day. I watched the Behind Blue and Gold draft videos and they were all-in on Kulich and utterly shocked that he actually fell to them after they tried six different times to trade up for him between #16 and #28.

 

[Gras]

I don't doubt that they had a 1st round grade on him, but I highly doubt they ever even briefly considered using the Kulich pick on him on draft day. I watched the Behind Blue and Gold draft videos and they were all-in on Kulich and utterly shocked that he actually fell to them after they tried six different times to trade up for him between #16 and #28.

Literally one of the first questions

 

[Dingo44]

I don't doubt that they had a 1st round grade on him, but I highly doubt they ever even briefly considered using the Kulich pick on him on draft day. I watched the Behind Blue and Gold draft videos and they were all-in on Kulich and utterly shocked that he actually fell to them after they tried six different times to trade up for him between #16 and #28.

They didn't think Kulich would still be available at #28. If he was off the board then they may have picked Leinonen.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

They had a first round grade on him because they are bad at their jobs. Same people who keep drafting the same player type every year.

 

[Chainshot]

I don't doubt that they had a 1st round grade on him, but I highly doubt they ever even briefly considered using the Kulich pick on him on draft day. I watched the Behind Blue and Gold draft videos and they were all-in on Kulich and utterly shocked that he actually fell to them after they tried six different times to trade up for him between #16 and #28.

They also had a first round grade on Neuchev in his draft year. *shrug*