OT: 2024 NFL/NCAA/HS Football Thread

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Loss is on Rodgers/Lazard/coaching staff. This defense, once again, is being let to dry out there. They've given up 26 points in 2 weeks and have 0 wins to f***ing show for it. Also the refs apparently were in love with Jefferson today, what the f*** were some of those PI calls today
 
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Quite the reversal for the Bengals. Miss a game-winning FG, then the very next play the Ravens run it 50 yards for a first and goal to set up their own game-winning FG.
 

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What an embarrassingly stupid way to get scored on. Lose the ball on the 1 yard line and they run all the way back to score.

Just when I think the Giants can’t get any worse, they manage it.
 

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Seattle, I can understand being on a short week after a brutal game with Detroit on Monday getting gashed and smoked on defense, for losing today to the Giants but wtf in the mighty f*** is going on with the Niners this year? Maybe CMC should've won MVP last year similar to on Hall won MVP in 2017-2018 here even if both didn't have the best overall seasons but what they meant to their teams. Thursday should be very interesting between those teams.

The fact next Monday is a first place game is absolutely LOLz btw @AfroThunder396
 

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Seattle, I can understand being on a short week after a brutal game with Detroit on Monday getting gashed and smoked on defense, for losing today to the Giants but wtf in the mighty f*** is going on with the Niners this year? Maybe CMC should've won MVP last year similar to on Hall won MVP in 2017-2018 here even if both didn't have the best overall seasons but what they meant to their teams. Thursday should be very interesting between those teams.

The fact next Monday is a first place game is absolutely LOLz btw @AfroThunder396
I have no confidence in the Bills next week. McDermott has been HC for 7 years and still doesn’t understand situational football. The Texans let the Bills hang around with unforced errors in the 4th and the Bills just refused to take advantage.

The defense is playing with a lot of guts right now but keeps giving up big plays early and the offense isn’t good enough to play catch up.

Josh has looked uncharacteristically bad the last two weeks (NINE [9] completions today!) and against the Jets defense I don’t have much faith.
 

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McDermott and Saleh as a coaching matchup are like two blind men in a kicking contest. I did not get what the Bills did at the end either, like it's one thing to try to get the first down once and make them use a couple of timeouts before throwing a safe pass on third down to try to ensure OT but throwing three long passes and trying to WIN the game when you're on your own three with zero timeouts of your own?!

Garrett Wilson finally was the squeaky wheel that got the grease this week but they still run a prehistoric offense - run up the middle with Breece and outside with Allen when it should be the other way around, and don't even bother to get Breece in space for outlet passes but keep feeding Rodgers' buddy Allen Lazard who has a drop for every great catch he makes. And Rodgers was himself awful the last two weeks, you can't be the guy who runs the organization if you yourself suck...and he's STILL better qualified to run the organization than freaking Saleh or Aaron's coffee boy Hackett.

Some of these other players need to look at themselves too, starting with Hall and Ahmad who cost the Jets a TD with THREE penalties and a dropped INT all on one drive! Meanwhile every time freaking Echols is in the game he actually manages to catch the damn football.
 
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by the way, Josh Allen absolutely was concussed on that one hit late in the game and they basically just let him come back in and aren't even reporting it. Got to love the NFL.

Yeah, I'd be pretty upset if I was a Dolphins fan. All the hoopla with Tua and him missing games and then you see Josh Allen look like the Undertaker mid game and still be able to play is borderline dumb. If the barometer of not letting a guy play is a guys's fingers not seizing up then we're in the wrong argument here when it comes to CTE/concussions
 
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McDermott and Saleh as a coaching matchup are like two blind men in a kicking contest. I did not get what the Bills did at the end either, like it's one thing to try to get the first down once and make them use a couple of timeouts before throwing a safe pass on third down to try to ensure OT but throwing three long passes and trying to WIN the game when you're on your own three with zero timeouts of your own?!

Garrett Wilson finally was the squeaky wheel that got the grease this week but they still run a prehistoric offense - run up the middle with Breece and outside with Allen when it should be the other way around, and don't even bother to get Breece in space for outlet passes but keep feeding Rodgers' buddy Allen Lazard who has a drop for every great catch he makes. And Rodgers was himself awful the last two weeks, you can't be the guy who runs the organization if you yourself suck...and he's STILL better qualified to run the organization than freaking Saleh or Aaron's coffee boy Hackett.

Some of these other players need to look at themselves too, starting with Hall and Ahmad who cost the Jets a TD with THREE penalties and a dropped INT all on one drive! Meanwhile every time freaking Echols is in the game he actually manages to catch the damn football.

Pretty much this and the one thing I'll say about Sauce is this is the worst stretch of football that he's played and he's not even close to his normal excellence. Hall has no chance with the run blocking at all with this team, they also need Moses back ASAP, Olu looks like a turnstile and I don't fault the kid because he probably thought he was red shirting the whole year before that gruesome injury to Moses. I think they're gonna try to get Davante even harder this week with how the offense looked in the first half v Minnesota. Back to back absurdly winnable games only to lose to offensive malfunction, the defense probably thinks they're in a never ending loop of ineptitude.

I have no confidence in the Bills next week. McDermott has been HC for 7 years and still doesn’t understand situational football. The Texans let the Bills hang around with unforced errors in the 4th and the Bills just refused to take advantage.

The defense is playing with a lot of guts right now but keeps giving up big plays early and the offense isn’t good enough to play catch up.

Josh has looked uncharacteristically bad the last two weeks (NINE [9] completions today!) and against the Jets defense I don’t have much faith.

We'll see, both HC's are dumb. The Bills lack of weapons is exposing themselves with a better schedule and probably means they won't be a legit contender this year because of it and this iteration of the Jets are the most Jets football team you can think of.
 
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The giants o-line play has been a revelation. And leading the league in sacks?!? Crazy. I know every team can say “oh a few breaks here or there and we could have a better record” but this team is a healthy kicker away from beating Washington and they absolutely should’ve beat the cowboys last week.
 
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I didn’t think they had the balls to do this in season - unless what AR wants…


I'm stunned, but only because Woody has never done this since he's been the owner.

Did you happen to catch Quincy Williams' comments after the loss? It was as damning a comment by a player as I've seen saying people have to be accountable and it gets old or tiring hearing the same thing over and over again. It had to be about Saleh. I can't think of it being anyone else.

Ulbrich as the interim is the only logical call here. He seems to command more respect than Saleh has.

Here's Quincy's comments:

 

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The timing of this is very bizarre. If they were close enough to firing him that 5 weeks is enough to make the difference, they should have just fired him in the summer and brought in a new guy to install his system through training camp.

Like, how do you go from full confidence over the summer to canning a guy a month into the season? Clearly they had questions about him going into the season but chose to ignore them.

Saleh needed to go but this screams of desperation, that they sense Rodgers is on the verge of becoming a malcontent (what a f***ing shocker) and are trying to placate him.
 

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The timing of this is very bizarre. If they were close enough to firing him that 5 weeks is enough to make the difference, they should have just fired him in the summer and brought in a new guy to install his system through training camp.

Like, how do you go from full confidence over the summer to canning a guy a month into the season? Clearly they had questions about him going into the season but chose to ignore them.

Saleh needed to go but this screams of desperation, that they sense Rodgers is on the verge of becoming a malcontent (what a f***ing shocker) and are trying to placate him.
The easy answer to the first part is they wanted to give him a chance with a healthy Rodgers (and Rodgers himself hadn’t worked with him yet).

But yes this is likely Rodgers-driven or perhaps Woody has reached his ‘I’m 80 years old and I want to win now’ day of Jet ownership
 

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The timing of this is very bizarre. If they were close enough to firing him that 5 weeks is enough to make the difference, they should have just fired him in the summer and brought in a new guy to install his system through training camp.

Like, how do you go from full confidence over the summer to canning a guy a month into the season? Clearly they had questions about him going into the season but chose to ignore them.

Saleh needed to go but this screams of desperation, that they sense Rodgers is on the verge of becoming a malcontent (what a f***ing shocker) and are trying to placate him.

It wouldn't shock me if this (and acquiring Davante Adams) are the last straws that Douglas can pull to try and save his job as well. If they don't recover from this, he'll be out the door too.

It's a cruel world. Saleh seems like an awesome dude, but it's clear he's in over his head as the head coach. In that same vein though, how much can a guy squeeze out of an offense when his best QB has been 40 year old Aaron Rodgers for 6 games? Zach Wilson flamed out. Joe Flacco couldn't succeed here (yet somehow can at least be somewhat productive elsewhere at his age) and then you have Trevor Siemian and Tim Boyle. What a disaster of a group.
 

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The timing of this is very bizarre. If they were close enough to firing him that 5 weeks is enough to make the difference, they should have just fired him in the summer and brought in a new guy to install his system through training camp.

Like, how do you go from full confidence over the summer to canning a guy a month into the season? Clearly they had questions about him going into the season but chose to ignore them.

Saleh needed to go but this screams of desperation, that they sense Rodgers is on the verge of becoming a malcontent (what a f***ing shocker) and are trying to placate him.
I mean, the on-field product speaks for itself.
 

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