GDT: 2024 Draft Discussion
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RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
That would be pretty costly to do.
Detroit seems to always end up with the more tradeable brother; Svechnikov, Drew Miller, Buium. Keith Primeau was the more desirable brother but he was sent packing anyway.
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OgeeOgelthorpe
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The more I see of this kid the more I like him.
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I think we should trade older Buium to the team which will draft Zeev.
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Ulysses31
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havent followed draft at all this year but stoked to see moves sy makes between now n july 1st
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Im starting to think MBN, Luchanko, Hage or MBN are going to be the wings "style" players that are going to be available at 15. But 15 is deep enough in the draftits impossible to predict. I also think Boisvert is a guy theyll be seriously looking at
If some of the talk about Catton falling are true though, that could be a huge jolt of offense to the prospect pool. Hes actually a wings style player as well, just a bit undersized.
If some of the talk about Catton falling are true though, that could be a huge jolt of offense to the prospect pool. Hes actually a wings style player as well, just a bit undersized.
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Let’s hope so.
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Trevor Connelly…
Do the Wings take Trevor Connelly if he’s the most talented player on the board at 15? Why wouldn’t they? I would. I’ll get to why in a second.
No doubt, there’s a good chance the most talented forward on the board at 15OA will be Trevor Connelly. Yep, he has that baggage but you cannot debate his talent. He’s just as talented as Cole Eiserman.
That said, I’d heard a couple months ago that Detroit wouldn’t touch him. The last week or so, now some of those same people say Detroit may actually be targeting him.
Why I’d take him? He’s shown maturity in accepting the responsibility. If they’ve talked to him, and accept where he’s at maturity wise, they should absolutely take him. This isn’t some kid who attacked someone physically. He shared a very stupid, insulting to many people, picture when he was 13-14 years old, that had something shaped like a swastika. Most 13-14 year old kids have no idea the significance of what that means to people. Has anyone talked to young people these days about history? They haven’t a clue.
About 15 years ago, I spent a few years helping to coach high end AAA hockey, because I knew a group of boys from our street, went to one of their golf outings, and their coaches convinced me to get involved if I had some extra time. That turned into me being involved for 5-6 years. In those years, we had the reputation for taking kids nobody else would put up with anymore. They were more than a handful, to keep out of trouble. I still talk to a lot of those kids today. They’ve turned into great men. Some who’ve played at the highest level.
If we had social media when they were 13-14 years old, they never would’ve been given the chance. Sharing a photo you didn’t understand insulted so many people, shouldn’t stop you from living your dream.
If people want to argue, he snaps sometimes on the ice? So did kids like Travis Konecny and many others. It’s called maturing. A lot of the greats, took dumb penalties sometimes too. It happens.
So I’d take Trevor in a heartbeat, if he’s the most talented player on the board.
Tomorrow is gonna be real interesting. Especially if the most talented player on the board is Stian Solberg from Norway. Yep, another Dman, but one who’s pretty close to playing in the NHL already. If you just watched him at Worlds, you seen how good he can be.
The player most connected has been the other Norwegian, Brandsegg-Nygard. Hearing Detroit loves both kids from Norway.
15th overall is just so hard to predict. Kids are also gonna drop. Sometimes for a reason. Two others that are very offensively gifted, are Tarik Parascak and Ryder Ritchie, who may go much higher than some think. Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Yzerman took either at 15OA and laughs at anyone thinking he drafted the player too high.
Ritchie is a lot like Danielson in many ways, but he is more of a winger.. It’s hard being young and being the only player on your Jr team who can drive a line. Ritchie proved at the under 18s, how good he is, playing with other good players. Like Danielson, he was just stuck on a team without much help..
Then there’s more developmental players like Hage. Who I like a ton too. This time next year, watch how he’s looked at after playing at Michigan for a year. USHL kids still get a bad rap from the media draft folks.
So it’s hard to say what direction they’re gonna go. Just thought it interesting that Connelly could be the player they’ve been targeting all along, but it was said they wouldn’t touch him because he does have a history.
Make no mistake though. Trevor Connelly is the real deal. Just as talented as many who will go in the Top 6-8.
Personally I just wanna see Yzerman go up on stage and say he selects Cole Eiserman.
You can’t teach natural goal scoring. Cole Eiserman is the most natural goal scorer in this draft. Just can’t see him dropping for being a little immature in how he plays. He’s one of the youngest kids in the draft too. I just can’t see him falling that far. I think SJ trading to 11, makes sure he doesn’t fall.
That’s 5 of the 6 players they should be targeting with the pick. If Eiserman drops, or someone else they have rated high, then that changes things.
Right now, I think there’s a good bet they take Connelly, Brandskegg-Nygard, or Hage if they’re drafting a forward. With an outside chance they do take Ritchie or Parascak that high.
If Solberg or Yakemchuk fall to 15, they may have to make a tough decision and go D again. The upside is to great and Dmen can always be traded away for very talented forwards.
Always take the best player available in Round 1. It would be really hard watching Connelly be a star in the league, knowing you passed on him.
It would be real hard passing on Trevor Connelly.
Do the Wings take Trevor Connelly if he’s the most talented player on the board at 15? Why wouldn’t they? I would. I’ll get to why in a second.
No doubt, there’s a good chance the most talented forward on the board at 15OA will be Trevor Connelly. Yep, he has that baggage but you cannot debate his talent. He’s just as talented as Cole Eiserman.
That said, I’d heard a couple months ago that Detroit wouldn’t touch him. The last week or so, now some of those same people say Detroit may actually be targeting him.
Why I’d take him? He’s shown maturity in accepting the responsibility. If they’ve talked to him, and accept where he’s at maturity wise, they should absolutely take him. This isn’t some kid who attacked someone physically. He shared a very stupid, insulting to many people, picture when he was 13-14 years old, that had something shaped like a swastika. Most 13-14 year old kids have no idea the significance of what that means to people. Has anyone talked to young people these days about history? They haven’t a clue.
About 15 years ago, I spent a few years helping to coach high end AAA hockey, because I knew a group of boys from our street, went to one of their golf outings, and their coaches convinced me to get involved if I had some extra time. That turned into me being involved for 5-6 years. In those years, we had the reputation for taking kids nobody else would put up with anymore. They were more than a handful, to keep out of trouble. I still talk to a lot of those kids today. They’ve turned into great men. Some who’ve played at the highest level.
If we had social media when they were 13-14 years old, they never would’ve been given the chance. Sharing a photo you didn’t understand insulted so many people, shouldn’t stop you from living your dream.
If people want to argue, he snaps sometimes on the ice? So did kids like Travis Konecny and many others. It’s called maturing. A lot of the greats, took dumb penalties sometimes too. It happens.
So I’d take Trevor in a heartbeat, if he’s the most talented player on the board.
Tomorrow is gonna be real interesting. Especially if the most talented player on the board is Stian Solberg from Norway. Yep, another Dman, but one who’s pretty close to playing in the NHL already. If you just watched him at Worlds, you seen how good he can be.
The player most connected has been the other Norwegian, Brandsegg-Nygard. Hearing Detroit loves both kids from Norway.
15th overall is just so hard to predict. Kids are also gonna drop. Sometimes for a reason. Two others that are very offensively gifted, are Tarik Parascak and Ryder Ritchie, who may go much higher than some think. Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Yzerman took either at 15OA and laughs at anyone thinking he drafted the player too high.
Ritchie is a lot like Danielson in many ways, but he is more of a winger.. It’s hard being young and being the only player on your Jr team who can drive a line. Ritchie proved at the under 18s, how good he is, playing with other good players. Like Danielson, he was just stuck on a team without much help..
Then there’s more developmental players like Hage. Who I like a ton too. This time next year, watch how he’s looked at after playing at Michigan for a year. USHL kids still get a bad rap from the media draft folks.
So it’s hard to say what direction they’re gonna go. Just thought it interesting that Connelly could be the player they’ve been targeting all along, but it was said they wouldn’t touch him because he does have a history.
Make no mistake though. Trevor Connelly is the real deal. Just as talented as many who will go in the Top 6-8.
Personally I just wanna see Yzerman go up on stage and say he selects Cole Eiserman.
You can’t teach natural goal scoring. Cole Eiserman is the most natural goal scorer in this draft. Just can’t see him dropping for being a little immature in how he plays. He’s one of the youngest kids in the draft too. I just can’t see him falling that far. I think SJ trading to 11, makes sure he doesn’t fall.
That’s 5 of the 6 players they should be targeting with the pick. If Eiserman drops, or someone else they have rated high, then that changes things.
Right now, I think there’s a good bet they take Connelly, Brandskegg-Nygard, or Hage if they’re drafting a forward. With an outside chance they do take Ritchie or Parascak that high.
If Solberg or Yakemchuk fall to 15, they may have to make a tough decision and go D again. The upside is to great and Dmen can always be traded away for very talented forwards.
Always take the best player available in Round 1. It would be really hard watching Connelly be a star in the league, knowing you passed on him.
It would be real hard passing on Trevor Connelly.
lilidk
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The E. J. McGuire Award of Excellence is awarded annually to the National Hockey League draft prospect who best exemplifies the "commitment to excellence through strength of character, competitiveness and athleticism"
Is it sounds like Yzerman type?
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Pavels Dog
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Pretty bad misrepresentation of facts there. He was 16, not "13-14", which makes a huge difference. It's also not the only incident or problematic history he has. Far from it. I encourage you to read this article:
Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
NHL evaluators are encountering new areas of concern when judging the suitability of prospects for their franchises.
www.nytimes.com
I would be deeply, deeply disappointed if Connelly isn't on Detroit's do-not-draft list.
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I think if you have to choose between Connelly and Hage, I'm going Hage all day long.
My wish list for today (any of these guys):
Catton
Helenius
Luchanko
Hage
Jiricek
What guys do you guys want us to draft today (besides the obvious ones lol)?
My wish list for today (any of these guys):
Catton
Helenius
Luchanko
Hage
Jiricek
What guys do you guys want us to draft today (besides the obvious ones lol)?
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HisNoodliness
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Giving a kid an award because his dad died, he was injured and he persevered through those troubles to have a really good season doesn't.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Pretty bad misrepresentation of facts there. He was 16, not "13-14", which makes a huge difference. It's also not the only incident or problematic history he has. Far from it. I encourage you to read this article:
Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
NHL evaluators are encountering new areas of concern when judging the suitability of prospects for their franchises.
I would be deeply, deeply disappointed if Connelly isn't on Detroit's do-not-draft list.
Character concern aside, Connelly is noted to be a selfish player. Holding onto the puck too long, passing only when he absolutely had to, and playing a lot of hero puck. He seems like this year’s Josh Ho-Sang to me. Lots of flash, not enough substance.
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From what Marek said, Anaheim is leaning towards Buium at 3. It's more likely that the Wings trade for Gibson or Zegras and Shai goes in the package back so the Buium brothers get to play for the Anaheim Ducks together.
HisNoodliness
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With Connelly you mostly see two views expressed: 1. With the alleged racial slur and swastika post, he was mostly being an idiot teenager and seems genuinely remorseful, taking action in the community to make amends. And for moving teams, he himself was bullied a lot and has often ended up at odds with teams due to having adapted poorly to those difficulties.Pretty bad misrepresentation of facts there. He was 16, not "13-14", which makes a huge difference. It's also not the only incident or problematic history he has. Far from it. I encourage you to read this article:
Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
NHL evaluators are encountering new areas of concern when judging the suitability of prospects for their franchises.
I would be deeply, deeply disappointed if Connelly isn't on Detroit's do-not-draft list.
2. He refuses to take accountability for his actions and always tries to spin the blame for his difficulties onto others. He has a solid PR team coaching him on what to say and how to appear remorseful, but the persistence of the issues surrounding him suggest that there's not much substance to any of it. From bullying teammates to posting a swastika, he's been consistently behaved poorly. He's not just immature but at least a little cruel and mean,and that has prevented him from sticking in one place for long. He's going to be a headache at the very least.
I lean towards option 2 based upon what I've gathered, but without sitting down and talking to him, I think it's hard to be too emphatic either way. Character is such a big thing in this organization so I'd be surprised if we take him.
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Having tried to catch up to the prospects for tonight. I think I want Detroit to pick either MBN or Hage. Connelly's character issues I want nowhere near the Wings.
Winged Wheel Willy
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I'm hoping for Catton.
Which means he'd to it again to us.^^ He'll have us bitching and moaning but in the end we'll probably understand and come around on the decision.
