GDT: 2024 Draft Discussion

[Killerjas]

Skill and hockey IQ were the main draws with him. Like I said, you can make it seem like Yzerman has a type if you ignore all the examples where he didn’t follow that type when drafting.

??? He has great Hockey IQ, which amateur said this?

 

[norrisnick]

??? He has great Hockey IQ, which amateur said this?

Draw, not flaw.

 

[Holden Caufield]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795259498837475553

Sam O’Reilly was 1st star of the London/Moose Jaw Memorial cup game last night. Had an incredible game with a highlight reel goal. (Above)

He is an interesting prospect. He played defense in minor hockey and London converted him to Center. Nice skater. Used on the penalty kill a lot as a rookie. Didn’t get much power play time (except in December). There is definitely untapped offensive upside that is not indicated by his numbers.

You usually see him ranked/mocked mid 2nd round. So in the neighborhood of our pick. (Unlike the tweet. I believe he will still be a 2nd rounder)

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795259498837475553

Sam O’Reilly was 1st star of the London/Moose Jaw Memorial cup game last night. Had an incredible game with a highlight reel goal. (Above)

He is an interesting prospect. He played defense in minor hockey and London converted him to Center. Nice skater. Used on the penalty kill a lot as a rookie. Didn’t get much power play time (except in December). There is definitely untapped offensive upside that is not indicated by his numbers.

You usually see him ranked/mocked mid 2nd round. So in the neighborhood of our pick. (Unlike the tweet above. I believe he will still be a 2nd rounder)

I am not sure I buy him as a first rounder, but I would absolutely love him in the 2nd.

 

[lilidk]

Saw couple of games with Silayev, guy has 0 offense, just stay home defansman. I have no idea why he's so high, but if he falls to 15 , could be great Seider partner. He could help Mo play more offensive style.
Or we already have that kinda Seider partner - Breay Cleveland

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

If MBN, Eiserman and Sennecke are off the board at 15, tough call on who would be the pick.

Don't everyone pile on at once about this being a reach, but if that situation pops, I wouldn't mind Yegor Surin. Everything I have read and seen, dude gets after it and plays a physical game. Sure getting him over here could also be tough. Luchanko would be my second option.

 

[lilidk]

If MBN, Eiserman and Sennecke are off the board at 15, tough call on who would be the pick.

Don't everyone pile on at once about this being a reach, but if that situation pops, I wouldn't mind Yegor Surin. Everything I have read and seen, dude gets after it and plays a physical game. Sure getting him over here could also be tough. Luchanko would be my second option.

I like to see your top 15 with Eiserman, Sennecke and MBN all in . Pretty sure someone very good will be skipped. Also it will be surprised, guys like Luchanko or Surin will get drafted before they should

 

[Henkka]

My Top34 update:

Pick	AVG	Range	Pos	2023 draft	Size/Hand	Nation
1	1,1	1	C	Macklin Celebrini	5'11 - L	CAN
2	3,1	2-8	C/RW	Ivan Demidov	5'11 - L	RUS
3	4,8	3-9	RD	Artyom Levshunov	6'2 - R	BLR
4	6,6	4-11	C	Cayden Lindström	6'4 - L	CAN
5	7,0	3-12	C	Berkly Catton	5'11 - L	CAN
6	7,3	4-11	LW	Zeev Buium	5'11 - L	USA
7	7,6	4-11	LD	Sam Dickinson	6'3 - L	CAN
8	7,7	3-24	LD	Anton Silayev	6'7 - L	RUS
9	8,4	3-14	C	Konsta Helenius	5'10 - R	FIN
10	9,1	3-16	LW	Cole Eiserman	5'11 - L	USA
11	9,5	7-12	RD	Zayne Parekh	6'0 - R	CAN
12	11,4	5-18	F	Tij Iginla	6'0 - L	CAN
13	12,6	3-16	RD	Carter Yakemchuk	6'2 - R	CAN
14	13,4	7-28	RW	Beckett Sennecke	6'2 - R	CAN
15	14,5	14-17	RD	Adam Jiricek	6'1 - R	CZE
16	14,7	10-21	RW	Michael Bransdegg-Nygård	6'1 - R	NOR
17	15,2	7-24	C/LW	Trevor Connelly	6'1 - L	USA
18	19,0	17-27	LW	Igor Chernyshov	6'2 - R	RUS
19	19,0	16-23	RW	Liam Greentree	6'1 - L	CAN
20	19,8	15-25	C	Michael Hage	6'1 - R	CAN
21	21,6	10-50	W	Emil Hemming	6'2 - R	FIN
22	22,5	14-26	F	Andrew Basha	5'11 - L	CAN
23	24,7	21-27	C	Sacha Boisvert	6'2 - L	CAN
24	24,8	20-37	RW	Terik Paraschak	5'11 - R	CAN
25	27,2	25-38	LW	Nikita Artamonov	5'11 - L	RUS
26	27,8	18-61	LD	Aron Kiviharju	5'10 - L	FIN
27	28,3	24-49	F	Ryder Ritchie	6'0 - R	CAN/SWE
28	29,0	12-52	LD	Stian Solberg	6'2 - L	NOR
29	29,4	22-40	RD	Charlie Elick	6'3 - R	CAN
30	31,7	19-60	LD	Cole Hutson	5'8 - L	USA
31	32,0	19-54	RW	Jett Luchanko	5'10 - R	CAN
32	32,3	29-42	RD	Henry Mews	6'0 - R	CAN
33	33,6	21-53	LD	Matvei Shuravin	6'2 - L	RUS
34	33,8	21-49	LD	Leo Sahlin Wahlenius	6'0 - L	SWE

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

I like to see your top 15 with Eiserman, Sennecke and MBN all in . Pretty sure someone very good will be skipped. Also it will be surprised, guys like Luchanko or Surin will get drafted before they should

If the situation plays out and all three guys are available, I would probably go with the board consensus and would hope he take MBN. Physical player, two way game, seems to have a quality shot. Our prospect pool could use a guy like that. Sennecke would be next, then Eiserman. Eiserman is a wild card kind of pick, going to make someone look like a genius or an idiot when all is said and done.

The chances all three are there at #15 though seem pretty much non exsistent.

 

[SantosHalper]

Sam O’Reilly was 1st star of the London/Moose Jaw Memorial cup game last night. Had an incredible game with a highlight reel goal. (Above)

He is an interesting prospect. He played defense in minor hockey and London converted him to Center. Nice skater. Used on the penalty kill a lot as a rookie. Didn’t get much power play time (except in December). There is definitely untapped offensive upside that is not indicated by his numbers.

You usually see him ranked/mocked mid 2nd round. So in the neighborhood of our pick. (Unlike the tweet. I believe he will still be a 2nd rounder)

Not bad, a bit similar career path Gibson has. Who else we like in the 2nd round? I gotta good feeling about these swedish centers.
- Lucas Pettersson(might be a late 1st/early 2nd)
- Simon Zether
- Jack Berglund

Other mid/late round targets
- Melvin Fernström
- Joona Saarelainen
- Brodie Ziemer
- Jake Fisher
- Kaden Shahan
- James Reeder
- William Zellers
- Aidan Park
- Lee Parks
- Simon Seidl

 

[Frk It]

Not bad, a bit similar career path as Gibson has. Who else we like in the 2nd round? I gotta good feeling about these swedish centers.
- Lucas Pettersson(might be a late 1st/early 2nd)
- Simon Zether
- Jack Berglund

Other mid/late round targets
- Melvin Fernström
- Joona Saarelainen
- Brodie Ziemer
- Jake Fisher
- Kaden Shahan
- James Reeder
- William Zellers
- Aidan Park
- Lee Parks
- Simon Seidl

I’ve been tracking Zether since last year, made a thread for him on the prospect board, would love if that was a bandwagon we could all get on for round 2/3.

I think there’s also a bunch of CHL kids that are interesting/appealing in round 2: Miguel Marques, Luke Misa, Marek Vanacker, Tanner Howe, Lukas Fischer,

And then Kamil Bednarik would probably be at the very top of my list for round 2, from the USDP.

 

[lilidk]

I no longer care who Yzerman will draft as long as he doesn't take goalie in the first 2 rounds. 2015 was historical draft and somehow second best center was taken at the second round.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I’ve been tracking Zether since last year, made a thread for him on the prospect board, would love if that was a bandwagon we could all get on for round 2/3.

I think there’s also a bunch of CHL kids that are interesting/appealing in round 2: Miguel Marques, Luke Misa, Marek Vanacker, Tanner Howe, Lukas Fischer,

And then Kamil Bednarik would probably be at the very top of my list for round 2, from the USDP.

You can put me on the Zether train as well. There's a few names I like in the 2nd but I don't want to gamble and lose out on Zether if he's on the board with our 2nd pick.





He doesn't have great footspeed but pretty soft hands. Good frame and can play fairly physical. Very good hockey sense and very defensively responsible. I think he could be a solid 3W that kills penalties that can play up to 2W in a pinch.

 

[SantosHalper]

I’ve been tracking Zether since last year, made a thread for him on the prospect board, would love if that was a bandwagon we could all get on for round 2/3.

I think there’s also a bunch of CHL kids that are interesting/appealing in round 2: Miguel Marques, Luke Misa, Marek Vanacker, Tanner Howe, Lukas Fischer,

And then Kamil Bednarik would probably be at the very top of my list for round 2, from the USDP.

All of those names checks out a lot of boxes, Misa and Bednarik are probably most interesting players. Marques has quite a numbers in CSSHL U17 league, 31 games 116 points in regular season and 30 points in 5 playoff games. Perhaps a bit wrong league for him in that season

 

[newfy]

Sam O’Reilly was 1st star of the London/Moose Jaw Memorial cup game last night. Had an incredible game with a highlight reel goal. (Above)

He is an interesting prospect. He played defense in minor hockey and London converted him to Center. Nice skater. Used on the penalty kill a lot as a rookie. Didn’t get much power play time (except in December). There is definitely untapped offensive upside that is not indicated by his numbers.

You usually see him ranked/mocked mid 2nd round. So in the neighborhood of our pick. (Unlike the tweet. I believe he will still be a 2nd rounder)

O'Reilly has Red Wing written all over him given his play style and committment to every aspect of the ice. 15 is a little rich but I wont be surprised at all after this mem cup run if hes a first rounder. And honestly he could go around 15... He's this years Easton Cowan with a more pro built body.

I'm still hoping Senecke is there, but O'Reilly isnt a guy I would hate. This board would have half the people wanting to blow their brains out, but he does a lot of things that make me think hes going to be a pro for a long time. Would definitely be a wait and see type pick

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

O'Reilly has Red Wing written all over him given his play style and committment to every aspect of the ice. 15 is a little rich but I wont be surprised at all after this mem cup run if hes a first rounder. And honestly he could go around 15... He's this years Easton Cowan with a more pro built body.

I'm still hoping Senecke is there, but O'Reilly isnt a guy I would hate. This board would have half the people wanting to blow their brains out, but he does a lot of things that make me think hes going to be a pro for a long time. Would definitely be a wait and see type pick

How is his skating? I haven't seen a whole lot of this kid but the guys on TSN are raving about him.

Also his 56 points was good for 9th on that London Knights team. Holy hell are they deep.

 

[Holden Caufield]

O'Reilly has Red Wing written all over him given his play style and committment to every aspect of the ice. 15 is a little rich but I wont be surprised at all after this mem cup run if hes a first rounder. And honestly he could go around 15... He's this years Easton Cowan with a more pro built body.

I'm still hoping Senecke is there, but O'Reilly isnt a guy I would hate. This board would have half the people wanting to blow their brains out, but he does a lot of things that make me think hes going to be a pro for a long time. Would definitely be a wait and see type pick

Fair comparison. They kind of mirror each other… up to and including the fact they are late NHL draft risers.
Both 2nd round picks by London.
Both played in GOJHL as 16 year olds and led their respective teams in points per game.
Their rookie OHL seasons (draft years), they had almost identical production numbers.
Cowan ; 68 GP - 20G - 33A
O’Reilly; 68 GP - 20G - 36A

I would say Cowan is obviously the better skater as it’s rare any prospect can skate with Cowan. Cowan also has more offensive flair. But yes, O’Reilly is likely to stick at Center for the reasons you mentioned. Size, Better in his own end and plays a more straight ahead style of game.

 

[newfy]

How is his skating? I haven't seen a whole lot of this kid but the guys on TSN are raving about him.

Also his 56 points was good for 9th on that London Knights team. Holy hell are they deep.

Skating is his weakness, but its not bad. If he gets another step hes fine. I'll be shocked if hes not a first rounder, its classic london. Next year when he gets his chance to be the guy, his offence is going to blow up just like COwans did

Fair comparison. They kind of mirror each other… up to and including the fact they are late NHL draft risers.
Both 2nd round picks by London.
Both played in GOJHL as 16 year olds and led their respective teams in points per game.
Their rookie OHL seasons (draft years), they had almost identical production numbers.
Cowan ; 68 GP - 20G - 33A
O’Reilly; 68 GP - 20G - 36A

I would say Cowan is obviously the better skater as it’s rare any prospect can skate with Cowan. Cowan also has more offensive flair. But yes, O’Reilly is likely to stick at Center for the reasons you mentioned. Size, Better in his own end and plays a more straight ahead style of game.

I'm not sure last year you would've said Cowan has more offensive flair at draft time. Cowan is definitely a better skater but O'Reilly has way more of a pro built body to say its likely his style of game work at higher levels as well.

 

[Holden Caufield]

How is his skating? I haven't seen a whole lot of this kid but the guys on TSN are raving about him.

Also his 56 points was good for 9th on that London Knights team. Holy hell are they deep.

His skating is very solid. Not a burner though. Does have some Bo Horvat traits.
The points are misleading.
He was not used much at all on the power play. He was only used heavily in that role in December when Bonk, Cowan, Haltunnen and Barkey were away at WJC’s. Bonk actually played forward on the PP.

 

[Holden Caufield]

Skating is his weakness, but its not bad. If he gets another step hes fine. I'll be shocked if hes not a first rounder, its classic london. Next year when he gets his chance to be the guy, his offence is going to blow up just like COwans did


I'm not sure last year you would've said Cowan has more offensive flair at draft time. Cowan is definitely a better skater but O'Reilly has way more of a pro built body to say its likely his style of game work at higher levels as well.

Definitely built more sturdy.
I expect a big increase in offense too. Even in his draft year Cowan was always dancing circles around the offensive zone and nobody could get the puck away from him. You don’t see that in O’Reilly’s game is all I meant. More of a straight ahead mentality.

 

[Holden Caufield]

Don't everyone pile on at once about this being a reach, but if that situation pops, I wouldn't mind Yegor Surin. Everything I have read and seen, dude gets after it and plays a physical game. Sure getting him over here could also be tough.

Surin interests me too. Haven’t seen much of him because it’s so hard to find game videos of Russians (always was)and even more now that they are banned from international.

But seems to have the offensive skills and an incredibly high physical/compete level. wouldn’t mind if we cashed in on the ‘Russian uncertainty discount’ here. Probably not at 15. Maybe we get lucky and he falls to the 2nd or we could trade up into the back of 1st.

 

[newfy]

Definitely built more sturdy.
I expect a big increase in offense too. Even in his draft year Cowan was always dancing circles around the offensive zone and nobody could get the puck away from him. You don’t see that in O’Reilly’s game is all I meant. More of a straight ahead mentality.

Yeah Cowan has a mean streak/pest side to his game but hes much more of a "water bug" out there. O'Reilly is a little more of your prototypical powerforward type

 

[Frk It]

Surin interests me too. Haven’t seen much of him because it’s so hard to find game videos of Russians (always was)and even more now that they are banned from international.

But seems to have the offensive skills and an incredibly high physical/compete level. wouldn’t mind if we cashed in on the ‘Russian uncertainty discount’ here. Probably not at 15. Maybe we get lucky and he falls to the 2nd or we could trade up into the back of 1st.

(From a hockey standpoint) it really stinks we don’t get to see these kids in international tournaments anymore. I remember seeing Yurov, Askarov, Michkov at the U18s and even in a short tournament just being floored by them.

I really know next to nothing about the Russians in this draft. I’ve heard really good things on Chernyshov though. I could see him being someone Detroit likes with the game he plays.

I’ve also been interested in Timur Kol and Daniil Anatsky, but it’s hard to get more than surface level info on them.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

O'Reilly has Red Wing written all over him given his play style and committment to every aspect of the ice. 15 is a little rich but I wont be surprised at all after this mem cup run if hes a first rounder. And honestly he could go around 15... He's this years Easton Cowan with a more pro built body.

I'm still hoping Senecke is there, but O'Reilly isnt a guy I would hate. This board would have half the people wanting to blow their brains out, but he does a lot of things that make me think hes going to be a pro for a long time. Would definitely be a wait and see type pick

Personally, I think we are underrating the likelihood of trading down this year.

 

[lilidk]

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