Pre-Game Talk: 2024 Blues Training Camp Thread

[Beauterham]

ST. LOUIS – St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the team has assigned forwards Zach Dean, Dalibor Dvorsky, Aleksanteri Kaskimaki, Mathias Laferriere, Mackenzie MacEachern, Hugh McGing, and Dylan Peterson, as well as defensemen Samuel Johannesson and Hunter Skinner, and goaltender Vadim Zherenko to the team’s AHL affiliate, the Springfield Thunderbirds.


The Blues will open the 2024-25 regular season on Tuesday, Oct. 8 when they visit the Seattle Kraken at 3:30 p.m. (CDT) at Climate Pledge Arena. The game will be broadcast on ESPN and 101 ESPN radio.

Last players to be put on waivers to be assigned to Springfield not yet anounced, but as he doesn't need to be waived, it seems that Bolduc made the team.

 

[SirPaste]

Last players to be put on waivers to be assigned to Springfield not yet anounced, but as he doesn't need to be waived, it seems that Bolduc made the team.

Was just thinking the same thing

 

[Majorityof1]

ST. LOUIS – St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the team has assigned forwards Zach Dean, Dalibor Dvorsky, Aleksanteri Kaskimaki, Mathias Laferriere, Mackenzie MacEachern, Hugh McGing, and Dylan Peterson, as well as defensemen Samuel Johannesson and Hunter Skinner, and goaltender Vadim Zherenko to the team’s AHL affiliate, the Springfield Thunderbirds.


The Blues will open the 2024-25 regular season on Tuesday, Oct. 8 when they visit the Seattle Kraken at 3:30 p.m. (CDT) at Climate Pledge Arena. The game will be broadcast on ESPN and 101 ESPN radio.

By my math we still have cuts to make unless 3 guys are starting on IR. Underlined are most likely cuts.

Forwards (15, 1-2 cuts): Bolduc, Buchnevich, Faksa, Holloway, M. Joseph, Kapanen, Kyrou, Neighbours, Saad, Schenn, Sunqvist, Tecier, Thomas, Toropchenko, Walker

Defense (9, 1-2 cuts to make): Broberg, Faulk, PO Joseph, Kessel. Leddy, Parayko, Perunovich, Suter, Tucker

Goalies (2): Hofer, Binnington

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

There are currently 29 players on the roster, so they'll need to figure out what to do with 6 players.

Forwards (16): Zack Bolduc (76), Pavel Buchnevich (89), Radek Faksa (12), Dylan Holloway (81), Mathieu Joseph (71), Kasperi Kapanen (42), Jordan Kyrou (25), Jake Neighbours (63), Simon Robertsson (80), Brandon Saad (20), Brayden Schenn (10), Oskar Sundqvist (70), Alexandre Texier (9), Robert Thomas (18), Alexey Toropchenko (13), Nathan Walker (26).

Defense (11): Philip Broberg (6), Justin Faulk (72), Adam Jiricek (37), Pierre-Olivier Joseph (77), Matthew Kessel (51), Nick Leddy (4), Colton Parayko (55), Scott Perunovich (48), Corey Schueneman (64), Ryan Suter (22), Tyler Tucker (75).

Goaltenders (2): Jordan Binnington (50), Joel Hofer (30).

My guess as to who's not making the trip:
Robertsson (IR)
Saad (Non-Roster, baby duty)
Sundqvist (IR)
Jiricek (IR or Juniors)
Schueneman (Waived)
Tucker (Waived)

Once Saad returns and Sundvist is ready, then you'll have a couple decisions to make.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Tucker and Schueneman have been officially waived.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842993336501600537

 

[BadgersandBlues]

Tucker simply doesn't have the footspeed for the NHL. It's unfortunate, but he was also a late round pick for a reason.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Robertson and Bolduc are 2 names I think are better than what we have on defense

 

[Majorityof1]

There are currently 29 players on the roster, so they'll need to figure out what to do with 6 players.

Forwards (16): Zack Bolduc (76), Pavel Buchnevich (89), Radek Faksa (12), Dylan Holloway (81), Mathieu Joseph (71), Kasperi Kapanen (42), Jordan Kyrou (25), Jake Neighbours (63), Simon Robertsson (80), Brandon Saad (20), Brayden Schenn (10), Oskar Sundqvist (70), Alexandre Texier (9), Robert Thomas (18), Alexey Toropchenko (13), Nathan Walker (26).

Defense (11): Philip Broberg (6), Justin Faulk (72), Adam Jiricek (37), Pierre-Olivier Joseph (77), Matthew Kessel (51), Nick Leddy (4), Colton Parayko (55), Scott Perunovich (48), Corey Schueneman (64), Ryan Suter (22), Tyler Tucker (75).

Goaltenders (2): Jordan Binnington (50), Joel Hofer (30).

My guess as to who's not making the trip:
Robertsson (IR)
Saad (Non-Roster, baby duty)
Sundqvist (IR)
Jiricek (IR or Juniors)
Schueneman (Waived)
Tucker (Waived)

Once Saad returns and Sundvist is ready, then you'll have a couple decisions to make.

My bad. The Blues's site is out of date. Thank you for the corrected list. Jiricek will be sent down when healthy, Schuemen and Tucker were both waived today. Army said Sunqvist will be ready for game 1, but they might keep him on IR longer.

I think Saad counts against the roster. Its not an injury. The NHL does not have paternity leave. Teams can offer the game off, but there is no rule to my knowledge givng you cap or roster relief. He counts against the cap and roster limit, as far as I know.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

My bad. The Blues's site is out of date. Thank you for the corrected list. Jiricek will be sent down when healthy, Schuemen and Tucker were both waived today. Army said Sunqvist will be ready for game 1, but they might keep him on IR longer.

I think Saad counts against the roster. Its not an injury. The NHL does not have paternity leave. Teams can offer the game off, but there is no rule to my knowledge givng you cap or roster relief. He counts against the cap and roster limit, as far as I know.

I believe this is the current rule according to the CBA:

16.12 Non-Roster Player.

(a) Upon approval of the Commissioner, a Player who is unavailable to play due to reasons other than injury, illness or disability (e.g., birth of a child, attending a funeral) will be designated a Non-Roster Player, and during such period of his designation as such he will not count against the Club's Active Roster limit and his Club may replace such Player, provided, however, that the Non-Roster Player's Player Salary and Bonuses and his replacement's Player Salary and Bonuses are each included in calculating a Club's Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, and the Players' Share, for purposes of Article 50.

 

[Majorityof1]

I believe this is the current rule according to the CBA:

16.12 Non-Roster Player.

(a) Upon approval of the Commissioner, a Player who is unavailable to play due to reasons other than injury, illness or disability (e.g., birth of a child, attending a funeral) will be designated a Non-Roster Player, and during such period of his designation as such he will not count against the Club's Active Roster limit and his Club may replace such Player, provided, however, that the Non-Roster Player's Player Salary and Bonuses and his replacement's Player Salary and Bonuses are each included in calculating a Club's Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, and the Players' Share, for purposes of Article 50.

Thank you again!!! That does ease the burden a bit, at least for a game or two to give another guy (Bolduc) a look in a real game against real pros.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Liam Foudy might be good center depth too and he can really skate.

 

[blueper]

I am really glad that it looks like Bolduc made it at least for a couple games to start the season. I think he earned it. Tucker is not a surprise. Bolduc, Peru, Kap, Walker seem like they are in jeopardy when Saad and Sunny are ready. Hoping Bolduc impresses in any opportunity he gets early.

 

[BlueMed]

Tucker simply doesn't have the footspeed for the NHL. It's unfortunate, but he was also a late round pick for a reason.

Hopefully some team claims him, so we don't have to hear about how gritty and mean he is after every whistle when he's really just taking unnecessary and costly penalties.

 

[Bluesfan54]

Pardon my ignorance, but who is this Schuemen guy? I don’t remember seeing his name before today.

 

[Majorityof1]

Pardon my ignorance, but who is this Schuemen guy? I don’t remember seeing his name before today.

Corey Shchueman. Career AHLer we signed for depth this off-season. He had a few games for Montreal past couple years as an injury fill-in but didn't really move the needle as a pro, I believe he was undrafted and Montreal signed him out of college at Western Michigan.

 

[BlueDream]

Liam Foudy might be good center depth too and he can really skate.

I’m gonna go ahead and guess that a guy who has already been released by 3 teams despite being drafted only 6 years ago, isn’t going to help us.

 

[542365]

Pardon my ignorance, but who is this Schuemen guy? I don’t remember seeing his name before today.

AHL depth Dman. He was horrendous in the Chicago game. He’ll be in Springfield all year.

 

[TurgPavs]

So the Blues are rolling with 8 men on D?
Faulk, Boberg, POJ, Kessel, Leddy, CP, Suter, Peru

It baffles me how much effort this organization has, and continues to pour into Perunovich. The guy just averaged 18+ minutes a night in the pre-season and ended with, 4GP, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, -5 with 4 Block shots (3 in one game) and 7 Giveaways.

is this dude married to a daughter of someone in the organization?

 

[ds774622]

So the Blues are rolling with 8 men on D?
Faulk, Boberg, POJ, Kessel, Leddy, CP, Suter, Peru

It baffles me how much effort this organization has, and continues to pour into Perunovich. The guy just averaged 18+ minutes a night in the pre-season and ended with, 4GP, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, -5 with 4 Block shots (3 in one game) and 7 Giveaways.

is this dude married to a daughter of someone in the organization?

I've slowly jumped off the Perunovich hype train over the course of the last 12 months, but I would caution analyzing preseason stats (e.g., +/- of -5) because of the mixing and matching of talent/prospects put out there by teams on both ends of the ice.

I'm not saying he's grabbed ahold of this opportunity to showcase that he belongs in the NHL...because he hasn't imho...but it makes sense to not give up on him yet if the org sees 6th/7th/PP QB upside until his RFA control ends.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

So the Blues are rolling with 8 men on D?
Faulk, Boberg, POJ, Kessel, Leddy, CP, Suter, Peru

It baffles me how much effort this organization has, and continues to pour into Perunovich. The guy just averaged 18+ minutes a night in the pre-season and ended with, 4GP, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, -5 with 4 Block shots (3 in one game) and 7 Giveaways.

is this dude married to a daughter of someone in the organization?

We’ve seen Dmen blossom late, but he’s got to be about down to his last chance with this organization. The Krug injury may have helped buy him a little more breathing room.

I’m not super optimistic about him doing any better, but he potentially has a skill set that is needed, if he could be functional on a defensive pairing.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

Why not take Robertson and put Perunovich on waivers?

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

We’ve seen Dmen blossom late, but he’s got to be about down to his last chance with this organization. The Krug injury may have helped buy him a little more breathing room.

I’m not super optimistic about him doing any better, but he potentially has a skill set that is needed, if he could be functional on a defensive pairing.

I mean he’s 26 and he hasn’t scored an NHL goal yet. If he breaks out now, it’ll be an extremely rare event. Yes injuries set him back and there have been guys in front of him and yadda yadda, but if it was going to happen for him it would have happened already. He’s still around because we’re so thin on guys who can run point on a power play.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

So the Blues are rolling with 8 men on D?
Faulk, Boberg, POJ, Kessel, Leddy, CP, Suter, Peru

It baffles me how much effort this organization has, and continues to pour into Perunovich. The guy just averaged 18+ minutes a night in the pre-season and ended with, 4GP, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, -5 with 4 Block shots (3 in one game) and 7 Giveaways.

is this dude married to a daughter of someone in the organization?

I won't be upset until I see him in the lineup. At this point it's just a delaying the inevitable since they don't have to make that decision.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Why not take Robertson and put Perunovich on waivers?

Take Robertsson where? He’s injured. What I’d like to know is what he injured and how bad it is. I haven’t seen anything on that yet and it’s been at least a week.

My guess is Robetsson starts the season on SOIR.

 

[STL fan in MN]

I've slowly jumped off the Perunovich hype train over the course of the last 12 months, but I would caution analyzing preseason stats (e.g., +/- of -5) because of the mixing and matching of talent/prospects put out there by teams on both ends of the ice.

I'm not saying he's grabbed ahold of this opportunity to showcase that he belongs in the NHL...because he hasn't imho...but it makes sense to not give up on him yet if the org sees 6th/7th/PP QB upside until his RFA control ends.

This is where I’m at with Scotty too. I’ve been a big fan of his as he’s developed but he still has the same weaknesses and if anything, he seems to have lost a little confidence as he’s not being overly creative on the PP anymore either.

IMO, he’s still with the team because they’re woefully thin at d-men that can QB a PP and they don’t need to make a decision. At least not today.

Season opening roster is due today. I’ll be interested in what exactly it looks like.